maplesyrup Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Grits could win majority, poll says Bloc 11% Cons 23% Libs 40% NDP 18% Grn 5% It looks like the NDP might be on their way to becoming the Official Opposition, as they are rapidly closing the gap between the lifeless Consevatives and themselves. And don't forget this is following the Conservative leadership convention just last month where there was wall-to-wall media coverage supporting Harper for leader. What a huge mistake has been made in the choice of leader for the Cons. I tried to share with people here that Stephen Harper was a disaster waiting to happen and that is why I was supporting Belinda Stronach for the leadership, but oh no, I was some kind of evil person. Nonsense. The one thing I was most worried about, was another Liberal majority government. I hope some people will listen up this time when I say, the only way now to prevent a Liberal majority from happening, is for all non-Liberal supporters to vote for the NDP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGunner Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Grits could win majority, poll saysBloc 12% Cons 23% Libs 40% NDP 18% Grn 5% OOOOOOOO!!! Conservatives are now LESS than their 25.5% that the Alliance party itself got in 2000. Can you say OUCH?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGunner Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Ipsos-Reid uses a funny seat distribution model. It seems that they are applying 2000 voting trends for 2004 and its just not applicable. The conservatives are behind in BC. There is no reason to expect that they can possibly hold 27 seats in BC (of 36) when they have 30% of the vote...or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playfullfellow Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Funny, the poll I read doesn't show the same numbers as you MS. http://www.dailyheraldtribune.com/Z04_00bp...polls0428.lasso Thats our local paper and in all reality, I think it is a little early to count your chickens yet, the eggs haven't even hatched yet. So which poll is right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplesyrup Posted April 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Why don't you post the results and the name of the polling company, etc., or is there a reason you didn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hjalmar Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 I predict Liberals with a majority, Conservatives as a strong official opposition, Bloc in #3 spot and the NDP with 11 seats and lacking official party status. Polls and the actual vote count are two different things. All socialist parties are on the wane throughout the world. This has already been recognized in countries such as Sweden and Germany. Great Britain's Labour party has veered strongly toward the centre. If you can't read the message there Maple Syrup then you need an IQ test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplesyrup Posted April 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Ipsos-Reid Poll Released April 29, 2004 946 Canadians surveyed on April 27 & 28, 2004 Margin of error: + or - 3.2% Canada Bloc 11% Cons 23%, down 5% Libs 40%, up 5 % NDP 18%, no change Grn 5% Oth 3% Libs have opened up a 17% lead over the Cons. The Cons are dead in the water. Anyone who hopes of stopping the Liberals from forming another majority government must now vote NDP. British Columbia Cons 25%, down 2% Libs 30%, no change NDP 26%, up 1% Grn ? Alberta Cons 46% Libs 31%, no change NDP 15%, up 4% Saskatchewan/Manitoba - huh? Cons 26%, down 10% Libs 35%, up 6% NDP 25%, down 2% Ontario Cons 25%, down 7% Libs 49%, up 8% NDP 20%, up 1% Quebec Bloc 46%, up 1% Cons 8%, down 3% NDP 8%, down 2% Atlantic Region Cons 30%, up 1% Libs 47%, up 6% NDP 18%, down 4% Conservatives are now in last place in BC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alliance Fanatic Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 I never trust poll's in between elections. Lets all remember what the pollsters said before 93. 33%-PC 22%-Lib 22%-NDP 10%-Reform 8%-Bloq they were sure wrong back then. It all depends on the campaign, a good campaign can turn everything upside down. Personally I doubt Jack Layton will do well, he's extremely narrow minded on health care reform, and does'nt believe in democratic process. Martin made a mistake by shutting out the Chreitenites, I think that Harper could do very well. Lets see what happens with the Green party, I'm going to predict a vote split in BC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alliance Fanatic Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Whats so great about the NDP. Really, I don't really want Canada to become the Asterdam of the North. I also believe that the majority will agree with me. Especially if their kids have access to injection sites, brothels, and other access to dangerous substances. So if the NDP does take over, then I garauntee that Alberta will seperate, along with some other provinces. No socialists wanted here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hjalmar Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Conservatives are now in last place in BC. Poll results almost the same as the Alliance Party before the last election. Final result on election day -- Alliance win all but 6 seats [ 3 Lib and 3 NDP]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playfullfellow Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Why don't you post the results and the name of the polling company, etc., or is there a reason you didn't? The Leger Marketing poll pegged support for the Liberals at 38 per cent after the polling firm allocated the undecided vote, compared with 26 per cent for the Tories, 17 for the NDP and 12 for the Bloc Quebecois. Kind of thought you could check it yourself, but since you insist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alliance Fanatic Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Don't trust poll's until the election. This one is going to be interesting, we have three new leaders of the major national parties. It's anybodies game, will Layton crash, will Harper crash, will Martin crash, its all hard to say until the writ is dropped. I hope that Harper will do well, and believe he will do well. Harper is calmer than either Martin or Layton. I also believe that Layton's hardline policies towards gay rights, feminism, and abortion, will not sit well with middle class families, where as Harpers belief in civil unions, free votes on abortions, and strong beliefs in equality will. - I kind of think that Bill Blaikie, and Lorne Nystrom would have made great leaders of the NDP. More middle of the road, however you put in a Tommy Douglas/ Dick Gephardt/Herbert Hoover, then I would certainly consider voting NDP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGunner Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Conservatives are now in last place in BC. Poll results almost the same as the Alliance Party before the last election. Final result on election day -- Alliance win all but 6 seats [ 3 Lib and 3 NDP]. That is not true.. The Alliance had always had a lead in the polls in BC or tangled with the Liberals for the lead, but the NDP was clearly off the map thanks to the hated provincial government....not the 30% plus rating the NDP enjoys today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playfullfellow Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 I still dont see where this will help the NDP as they have made little to no headway in Ontario or Quebec and they are losing ground in the Atlantic provinces. They have also lost ground in Saskatchewan and Manitoba according to MS's posting so the only place they are making any strides is BC. I fail to see the logic that they could possibly form the next official opposition party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falling leaf Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 Maplesyrup If Jack Layton is so great why isn't he on the picket line with rest of his union buddies? The only way he will get enough support to have official party status is through his labour union buddies. The NDP will never run this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplesyrup Posted May 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 Jack Layton gives pep talk in Toronto; says NDP ready for election call "This is . . . probably the best team of candidates that we've fielded in Ontario, certainly since the days of Ed Broadbent since 1988," Layton told his candidates. New Democrats are feeling good about their chances because voters are taking a serious look at the party heading into this election, Layton added. Part of the reason for renewed voter interest is the sponsorship scandal, he said, adding that people are disgusted with the governing Liberals. "Let's face it, they've really lost confidence," Layton said. "They're even beginning to lose confidence in the idea that when you elect someone to office, they'll follow through on your behalf." Voters rate New Democrats highly when it comes to integrity, Layton said Fallingleaf.......that is what they said in Ontario too in 1990. So forecasts like yours I like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hjalmar Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 "This is . . . probably the best team of candidates that we've fielded in Ontario, certainly since the days of Ed Broadbent since 1988," Layton told his candidates. Doesn't really matter what candidates they field -- all voters have to do is take note of the party platform. How in the world could any country succeed in a global economy of today with such outdated socialistic policies? The "welfare state" is all but dead throughout the world. If Canada would like to be relegated to "Third World" status, then I say by all means vote NDP. As a matter of fact, I suggest that Canada is likely doomed unless the NDP is totally destroyed for good. As long as they pose any threat of a voice in government affairs, Canada's prosperity and advancement will be hampered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alliance Fanatic Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 I agree. The fact is that the NDP has become even more radical with Jack Layton. I never trust a person who won't even allow his MP's to vote freely on gay marriage. The NDP does'nt seem to believe in democracy and would only allow narrow minded left wing thinking in their party. Lets look at the the conservatives were open to civil unions, health care reforms, taxes, and democracy. So the NDP is obviously the most narrow minded party in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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