Israel preparing to attack Iran!

[wulf42]

I hope the Iranian young are able to topple their evil leadership soon for their sake.......Israel is gearing up it seems to put an end to the Iranian threat for good and with the Israeli's there will be no half measures it will be a full out assault.

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-07-10-voa10.cfm

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/276062

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/world/artic...20attack%20Iran

[Bonam]

The first link is just a statement of the principle of mutual assured destruction and refers to no imminent threat. I doubt Iran is insane enough to directly use nuclear weapons against Israel, when it finishes developing them.

The other two clearly point out that strikes would just be carried out against Iran's nuclear facilities, not a "full out assault". This would be similar to the strikes carried out by Israel against Iraq's and Syria's nuclear facilities. Quickly destroy the target and get out. Literally a few hour long operation, max.

That being said, it is encouraging to see the greater cooperation that some Arab states, such as Egypt and Saudi Arabia, are offering Israel. It seems these nations, despite their traditional dislike of Israel and of Jews, are wiser than the West, realizing the threat that Iran poses, and are willing to take real steps to ensure that Iran does not develop nuclear weapons.

[wulf42]

The first link is just a statement of the principle of mutual assured destruction and refers to no imminent threat. I doubt Iran is insane enough to directly use nuclear weapons against Israel, when it finishes developing them.

The other two clearly point out that strikes would just be carried out against Iran's nuclear facilities, not a "full out assault". This would be similar to the strikes carried out by Israel against Iraq's and Syria's nuclear facilities. Quickly destroy the target and get out. Literally a few hour long operation, max.

That being said, it is encouraging to see the greater cooperation that some Arab states, such as Egypt and Saudi Arabia, are offering Israel. It seems these nations, despite their traditional dislike of Israel and of Jews, are wiser than the West, realizing the threat that Iran poses, and are willing to take real steps to ensure that Iran does not develop nuclear weapons.

Many Arab countries don t like the idea of Iran going nuclear either..............Israel has been patient and has hoped the U.S. could get Iran to give up its Nuclear weapon quest now Israel must act, it cannot allow a hardline fanatical Islamic Goverment to become nuclear!

[Bonam]

Many Arab countries don t like the idea of Iran going nuclear either..............Israel has been patient and has hoped the U.S. could get Iran to give up its Nuclear weapon quest now Israel must act, it cannot allow a hardline fanatical Islamic Goverment to become nuclear!

Yup I agree. Pretty much what I said in my post heh ;p

Sad really, relations between Israel and Iran weren't bad before the Islamic revolution. There are really no traditional differences or disputes between the Jews and the Persians. But with Iran taken over by Islamist thugs, and deciding to align itself with organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah, they are dooming themselves to decline and isolation.

[DogOnPorch]

There are certain logistical problems involved in attacking Iran that Israel may not be able to overcome.

1. They need to overfly either Syria or Saudi Arabia. Neither too keen on Israel.

2. Israel might not have enough chutzpah in their airforce to get the job done.

3. It's a very long flight unlike the last two.

[KrustyKidd]

There are certain logistical problems involved in attacking Iran that Israel may not be able to overcome.

1. They need to overfly either Syria or Saudi Arabia. Neither too keen on Israel.

2. Israel might not have enough chutzpah in their airforce to get the job done.

3. It's a very long flight unlike the last two.

They have to refuel which is a logistical nightmare and increases the time over hostile nations as well as adding slower aircraft to the mix. On top of that the targets are not simply one and in the open but many and very hardened.

[wulf42]

Yup I agree. Pretty much what I said in my post heh ;p

Sad really, relations between Israel and Iran weren't bad before the Islamic revolution. There are really no traditional differences or disputes between the Jews and the Persians. But with Iran taken over by Islamist thugs, and deciding to align itself with organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah, they are dooming themselves to decline and isolation.

Very true.............the sad thing is many Iranians mostly the young don t want anything to do with the Hardline Mullahs...that was obvious in the unrest we have all seen over the last few weeks with Iranian Protesters.

Edited July 18, 2009 by wulf42

[wulf42]

There are certain logistical problems involved in attacking Iran that Israel may not be able to overcome.

1. They need to overfly either Syria or Saudi Arabia. Neither too keen on Israel.

2. Israel might not have enough chutzpah in their airforce to get the job done.

3. It's a very long flight unlike the last two.

Israel does have Cruise Missile ability, they may be able to attack specific targets with these without to much trouble. I am sure the Israelis

have more than likely had spies in Iran for months selecting Iran's nuclear facilities for targeting!

Edited July 18, 2009 by wulf42

[Bonam]

There are certain logistical problems involved in attacking Iran that Israel may not be able to overcome.

1. They need to overfly either Syria or Saudi Arabia. Neither too keen on Israel.

2. Israel might not have enough chutzpah in their airforce to get the job done.

3. It's a very long flight unlike the last two.

If you read the article, it specifically mentions that Saudi Arabia has given official permission for Israel to use its airspace. That was the step I was referring to of Saudi Arabia cooperating with Israel in my earlier post.

[DogOnPorch]

If you read the article, it specifically mentions that Saudi Arabia has given official permission for Israel to use its airspace. That was the step I was referring to of Saudi Arabia cooperating with Israel in my earlier post.

None-the-less...you gotta figure if cartoons set the guys off, Israeli jets 'over Mecca' are going to cause some stir in the "Muslim World'.

[KrustyKidd]

None-the-less...you gotta figure if cartoons set the guys off, Israeli jets 'over Mecca' are going to cause some stir in the "Muslim World'.

Probably less than Muslim Jets over Israel and what happens next.

How long till showtime anyhow?

[Bonam]

None-the-less...you gotta figure if cartoons set the guys off, Israeli jets 'over Mecca' are going to cause some stir in the "Muslim World'.

Oh for sure, but if the Saudi government isn't planning to shoot down the Israeli planes when they fly over, and in fact have given official permission, I don't think Israel will care much if there are some protests afterwards, if it can get rid of Iran's nuclear capabilities.

[Bonam]

How long till showtime anyhow?

I don't think it's imminent. There wouldn't be a news report about something going on in advance like this - this is likely just a show of force.

[wulf42]

Scary situation i would say......Israel has a Nuclear Submarine that went ahead of the ships through the Suez Canal carrying Nuclear weapons, sure looks like they are getting ready for something big.....i Imagine Iran is more than just a tad worried!

[Bonam]

Scary situation i would say......Israel has a Nuclear Submarine that went ahead of the ships through the Suez Canal carrying Nuclear weapons

Source? I find it highly doubtful that such information would be available.

[wulf42]

Source? I find it highly doubtful that such information would be available.

Here you go.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2285531/posts

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5621XZ20090703

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...icle6715412.ece

Edited July 18, 2009 by wulf42

[Bonam]

Here you go.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2285531/posts

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5621XZ20090703

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...icle6715412.ece

As the articles plainly state, the submarines are not nuclear, they are diesel powered. I'm not sure if Israel has any nuclear submarines. Also, the statement that they are carrying nuclear weapons appears to be purely speculation, though it is possible.

[wulf42]

As the articles plainly state, the submarines are not nuclear, they are diesel powered. I'm not sure if Israel has any nuclear submarines. Also, the statement that they are carrying nuclear weapons appears to be purely speculation, though it is possible.

Sorry my fault yes they are diesel!

One thing about the Israeli's they like to keep you guessing maybe they have nukes maybe not but i would guess they likely do............ i can just imagine the Iranian leadership in some room in tehran going "oh oh...i think we went to far"

[DogOnPorch]

Oh for sure, but if the Saudi government isn't planning to shoot down the Israeli planes when they fly over, and in fact have given official permission, I don't think Israel will care much if there are some protests afterwards, if it can get rid of Iran's nuclear capabilities.

I'd be a wee bit careful if I was the Saudi Royal Family. The rank n' file aren't gonna be happy if that happens.