Wilber Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 Too few limits, but then our government isn't like the American government in that the American government represents the people and the Canadian government represents the Crown. The GG represents the Crown. Parliament is supposed to represent the people. That is how Parliament came about in the first place. The English Civil War was fought between the Crown and Parliament over the principle of Divine Right. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
benny Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 Yes! We should do away with legislatures altogether and just represent ourselves. Every Saturday night we can gather in the town square and sort out all of the issues. Under a deliberative democratic government, a Deliberation Day would be instituted as a paid holiday, the dearest and holiest one indeed. Quote
Pliny Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 Yes! We should do away with legislatures altogether and just represent ourselves. Every Saturday night we can gather in the town square and sort out all of the issues.What about my Saturday night bath? Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
benny Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 What about my Saturday night bath? Deliberation Days are fixed after deliberation. Quote
Pliny Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 The GG represents the Crown. Parliament is supposed to represent the people. That is how Parliament came about in the first place. The English Civil War was fought between the Crown and Parliament over the principle of Divine Right. In America the state takes action against criminality and the legal suit is headed "The people vs..." In Canada the State takes action and the legal suit is headed "The Crown versus...." So who in Canada acts in our defense? Yes. Yes. The Magna Carta, habeas corpus and all that. Probably the first document that protected people from a Monarchy, i.e., a government. Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
Pliny Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 Under a deliberative democratic government, a Deliberation Day would be instituted as a paid holiday, the dearest and holiest one indeed. So you are saying delibrative democracy is a religion. Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
Wilber Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 In America the state takes action against criminality and the legal suit is headed "The people vs..."In Canada the State takes action and the legal suit is headed "The Crown versus...." So who in Canada acts in our defense? Yes. Yes. The Magna Carta, habeas corpus and all that. Probably the first document that protected people from a Monarchy, i.e., a government. We are not talking about the courts, we are talking about Parliament. The Queen may be the head of state but Parliament represents the people. Parliament makes the laws. Parliament is elected by the people, not appointed by the Crown, even if those laws are enforced in the name of the Crown. If that wasn't the case, there would be no need for Parliament and Charles I would have kept his head. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Wilber Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 What about my Saturday night bath? We can have the mother of all baths and all bathe together while we settle things. We can do it on Saturday night if you wish as long as it is after the hockey game. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
benny Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 So you are saying delibrative democracy is a religion. "Religion" comes from "religare" which means linking people together. Quote
Pliny Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 We are not talking about the courts, we are talking about Parliament. The Queen may be the head of state but Parliament represents the people. Parliament makes the laws. Parliament is elected by the people, not appointed by the Crown, even if those laws are enforced in the name of the Crown. If that wasn't the case, there would be no need for Parliament and Charles I would have kept his head. Well, the defense counsel represents the Crown and is the defender of the law which is made by Parliament to protect the assets of the Crown. But let's not go there. Although the established hierarchy is fundamental to our societal structure it isn't pertinent to the method we use to elect our members of parliament and even less pertinent to the election of our MLA's. I will just say that Charles could probably have kept his head if Parliament had been around. Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
Pliny Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 We can have the mother of all baths and all bathe together while we settle things. We can do it on Saturday night if you wish as long as it is after the hockey game. LOL Glad to see you have a sense of humour! Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
benny Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 It is not too severe to ask people to give reasons for the opinions/votes. Quote
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