gordiecanuk Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 FACT: Ignotieff has spent 2.5 of the last 30 years inside Canada! FACT: Ignotieff was named leader of the party without letting its membership have a vote! FACT: Ignotieff is a staunch supporter of the Iraq war! FACT: Ignotieff has never led or organized anything in his life! FACT: Ignotieff is not an elected to lead Canada! Don't let the Liberal cronies steal the PMO's office. You're wrong on number 3, he "was" a staunch supporter of the Iraq War...he has since recanted. Both Harper and Iggy were big supporters, I haven't heard a retraction from Harper yet though. Iggy hasn't been elected to lead Canada...in fact, nobody is. Leaders are chosen by their parties...not the electorate. It may not be a perfect system, but it is the system we have. You would never vote Liberal anyway MC, frankly though I don't think his time out of the country teaching at some of the world's most prestigious universites is a liability. Quote You're welcome to visit my blog: Canadian Soapbox
Mr.Canada Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 Iggy hasn't been elected to lead Canada...in fact, nobody is. Leaders are chosen by their parties...not the electorate. It may not be a perfect system, but it is the system we have.You would never vote Liberal anyway MC, frankly though I don't think his time out of the country teaching at some of the world's most prestigious universites is a liability. Ignotieff hasn't been elected to lead his party either. Party leaders are supposed to be elected by their party membership after a leadership convention. He was parachuted in and everyone knows this. Now he wishes to be parachuted into the PMO with the Separatist BQ as the power holders. Ignotieff was a teacher for decades in any country but Canada and now through his own arrogance he wishes to teach Canadians how we should live, no thanks. I would vote Liberal, in fact I did once 1993 for Chretien who promised to get rid of the GST, we know how that turned out. Typical Liberal lies. If the Liberals were more like the liberals of the 1930's and 40's I'd vote Liberal every time. As it is they cannot be trusted and the party is rife with cronyism and corruptness. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
punked Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 Ignotieff hasn't been elected to lead his party either. Party leaders are supposed to be elected by their party membership after a leadership convention. He was parachuted in and everyone knows this. Now he wishes to be parachuted into the PMO with the Separatist BQ as the power holders.Ignotieff was a teacher for decades in any country but Canada and now through his own arrogance he wishes to teach Canadians how we should live, no thanks. I would vote Liberal, in fact I did once 1993 for Chretien who promised to get rid of the GST, we know how that turned out. Typical Liberal lies. If the Liberals were more like the liberals of the 1930's and 40's I'd vote Liberal every time. As it is they cannot be trusted and the party is rife with cronyism and corruptness. As soon as you are a member of the Liberal Party you can tell me how they pick their leader. You clearly have no clue. And are you retarded their is no way you would have voted for the Liberals in the 30's and 40's King used to talk to his dead mother. I mean honestly you would vote for the guy who talks to dead people? He said he talked with FDR after he died, and many other people. I mean honestly the man was involved with the Occult. He also hired prostitutes and slept with married women. You are a Hypocrite to even pretend this. Do you know anything about our country or do you just speak in rationalizations all the time? Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) Ignotieff hasn't been elected to lead his party either. Party leaders are supposed to be elected by their party membership after a leadership convention. He was parachuted in and everyone knows this. Now he wishes to be parachuted into the PMO with the Separatist BQ as the power holders.Ignotieff was a teacher for decades in any country but Canada and now through his own arrogance he wishes to teach Canadians how we should live, no thanks. I would vote Liberal, in fact I did once 1993 for Chretien who promised to get rid of the GST, we know how that turned out. Typical Liberal lies. If the Liberals were more like the liberals of the 1930's and 40's I'd vote Liberal every time. As it is they cannot be trusted and the party is rife with cronyism and corruptness. As soon as you are a member of the Liberal Party you can tell me how they pick their leader. You clearly have no clue. Dion was voted in leader by the LPC membership, as was Martin, as was Chretien, as was Trudeau and Turner and so on and on and on. I guess Ignotieff is too brilliant to be bothered worrying about democracy and tradition. When I speak, I speak in truths. It is hard to disagree with my logic as I'm just about always right. Edited January 18, 2009 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Mr.Canada Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) del Edited January 18, 2009 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Shakeyhands Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 Mr. Canada's Ignotieff is most likely a play on the name, like nObama... if it wasn't he would have corrected (especially going forward) when he was once again corrected for another mistake. It's quite mature! Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
guyser Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 Farted again huh? FACT: Ignotieff has spent 2.5 of the last 30 years inside Canada! False FACT: Ignotieff has never led or organized anything in his life! False FACT: Ignotieff is not an elected to lead Canada! me no unnerstan Don't let the Liberal cronies steal the PMO's office. Yes, that is the domain of Harper when he is in opposition Whats that smell? Oh yeah.... Quote
jdobbin Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 Mr. Canada's Ignotieff is most likely a play on the name, like nObama... I think it is because he supports Horper. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) These are facts guyser, sorry if it hurts. Ignotieff returned to Canadain late 2006 to be parachuted in to an easy Liberal riding in the 2006 election. He had spent most of the previous 30 in the from 1978-2000 then the USA from 2000-2006. That's almost 30 years to me guyser. What group has Ignotieff led and organized then please? Ignotieff was never elected to lead his party or Canada. But he is not bothered by things like democratic elections. Ignotieff and his Liberal cronies will grab power at all costs. They want the PMO, not matter what the cost. Guyser, is it possible for you to post to me without the personal attack? I don't do it to you. Real mature. How old are you? 12? Edited January 18, 2009 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 He returned to Canada in 2005 and took a position as a visiting professor and senior fellow of the Munk Centre for International Studies at the University of Toronto.[1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ignatieff Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ignatieff LOL, ok he's been here for 3 years and not 2, sorry. Doesn't change anything Smallc. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 LOL, ok he's been here for 3 years and not 2, sorry. Doesn't change anything Smallc. You said he never taught in Canada. You also said he only came back for political reasons. I have shown you that he came back and taught here before entering politics. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 You said he never taught in Canada. You also said he only came back for political reasons. I have shown you that he came back and taught here before entering politics. Pretty weak Smallc. He came back in order to get into politics. Talks were being held with him while he was still at Harvard, I'm sure you know this. Stop playing games Smallc. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 I really don't care why he came back. You're the one who seems to be making a big deal out of it. All I care about is that he's here and that he will most likely someday be the Prime Minister of Canada. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 I really don't care why he came back. You're the one who seems to be making a big deal out of it. All I care about is that he's here and that he will most likely someday be the Prime Minister of Canada. The only way he'll get into the PMO is to be parachuted in by way of a Bloc led Coalition. He'll never win an election. No matter how much semantics the left tries to play, people vote for a PM. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 He'll never win an election. I wouldn't count on that being true. Quote
jdobbin Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 He'll never win an election. And if he does, will you leave the country? Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 And if he does, will you leave the country? Nearly impossible dobbin. Obviously I wouldn't leave but I'd be very surprised if he did win, lets just say that. Harper probably needs to step down though at some point in 2009. I'll concede that much to you. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
guyser Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 These are facts guyser, Factually wrong you mean. Guyser, is it possible for you to post to me without the personal attack? I don't do it to you. Real mature. How old are you? 12? You are shown where you are wrong, then you wait a few days and repeat the same damn farts. No, a 12 year old would have learned, when schooled that a lie is just that, no matter how many times you say it. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 These are facts guyser, sorry if it hurts. Ignotieff returned to Canadain late 2006 to be parachuted in to an easy Liberal riding in the 2006 election. He had spent most of the previous 30 in the from 1978-2000 then the USA from 2000-2006. That's almost 30 years to me guyser.What group has Ignotieff led and organized then please? Ignotieff was never elected to lead his party or Canada. But he is not bothered by things like democratic elections. Ignotieff and his Liberal cronies will grab power at all costs. They want the PMO, not matter what the cost. Guyser, is it possible for you to post to me without the personal attack? I don't do it to you. Real mature. How old are you? 12? So once again, prove to me where I'm wrong. Instead of just name calling try using facts as I do. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
SSD Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Ignatieff has a real chance at winning an election. Everyone needs to realize that. He is currently the most popular leader in Quebec and the Liberals are 10 points ahead of even the Bloc at this point. He could snatch up to 40 seats in Quebec (more if Duceppe resigns as has been rumoured). In Ontario, he will win Toronto (with the exception of Layton's and his wife's riding) and win take back a lot of the 905 since they voted Liberal before Dion. He also could pose a threat to the other parties in the Vancouver area. The NDP currently is the big player there are quite a few centrist voters who will get behind Iggy.The Maritimes have leaned red for the past couple of years and will moreso do so since Harper is anti-Atlantic (he even wrote that they are lazy or something). Personally, people say that Dion lied when he said he wouldn't enter into a coalition but Harper made an even bigger lie when he said the Canadian economy is strong. The Liberals and other parties forecasted this recession while Harper was saying that we should put all our remaining savings in the stock market (equivalent losses from $1000 to $200 in a lot of cases). Face it guys, Tory times are bad times. Quote
gordiecanuk Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Ignotieff hasn't been elected to lead his party either. Party leaders are supposed to be elected by their party membership after a leadership convention. He was parachuted in and everyone knows this. Now he wishes to be parachuted into the PMO with the Separatist BQ as the power holders.Ignotieff was a teacher for decades in any country but Canada and now through his own arrogance he wishes to teach Canadians how we should live, no thanks. I would vote Liberal, in fact I did once 1993 for Chretien who promised to get rid of the GST, we know how that turned out. Typical Liberal lies. If the Liberals were more like the liberals of the 1930's and 40's I'd vote Liberal every time. As it is they cannot be trusted and the party is rife with cronyism and corruptness. 69% of Liberals supported the manner in which Ignatieff was installed as leader, and democracy at its core means "consent of the governed".... One of the schools Iggy taught at was U of T...and while many don't consider Toronto part of Canada it qualifies geographically. Non issue anyway except for die hard Tories like yourself. Chretien did lie about the GST, and I didn't vote for him the 2nd and 3rd times either...but Chretien isn't in politics anymore. Harper lied about fixed election dates, about the tax exempt status of Income Trusts, about eliminating the GST on gasoline over 80 cents a litre, about stacking the senate with cronies...about about about. You can keep voting for him though, just like many continued voting for Chretien....just don't be such a hypocrite about it. Quote You're welcome to visit my blog: Canadian Soapbox
Mr.Canada Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) 69% of Liberals supported the manner in which Ignatieff was installed as leader, and democracy at its core means "consent of the governed"....One of the schools Iggy taught at was U of T...and while many don't consider Toronto part of Canada it qualifies geographically. Non issue anyway except for die hard Tories like yourself. What did he teach at U of T and for how long at U of T? 5-6 months if that? The rest of the time was spent out of Canada 1978-2000 in the UK 2000-20005 in the USA. Yeah he love Canada alright. Edited January 19, 2009 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
SSD Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 What did he teach at U of T and for how long at U of T? 5-6 months if that? The rest of the time was spent out of Canada 1978-2000 in the UK 2000-20005 in the USA. Yeah he love Canada alright. I was at UofT when he was there. If you have never gone to UofT, its not like other universities. Some courses have 4 or 5 professors. Some profs don't even teach. I never saw him there but I am sure he taught a section of a course and contributed to some research. Just because he has worked outside of Canada doesn't mean he doesn't love it. He went elsewhere because that's what his job entails him to do. An accomplished academic looks for the best opportunity available. Oxford, Cambridge, and Harvard are the best in the world. Remember, he did teach at UBC at some point in his career. If you were a dedicated academic, would you refuse to go to a place that presented you with the best opportunity? Yes, someone can love Canada yet find the best job for him/her anywhere in the world. Conservatives bring up his foreign experience because Harper never even left North America before he became P.M. Sound familiar? Well, it should--Sarah Palin. I'm sure if I were trying to get the best research opportunity possible, I wouldn't turn down Oxford or Harvard. Quote
capricorn Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Face it guys, Tory times are bad times. That's because in tough times Canadians turn to the Tories. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
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