Snowmobilers and Avalanches

[Griz]

This is by no-means a posting out of disrespect but I couldn't help but bring this up to see what others think regarding the recent tragedy in the Kootenays of BC with the loss of snowmobilers.

You can bet if all these snowmobilers were aboriginal it would it be reported differently and you'd here such things as:

• What were they doing in the backcountry in such dangerous conditions?
  They were all mostly in there 20s so was alcohol a factor?
  Anybody knows that when you make lots of noise in avalanche country it may trigger a slide, so why would they enter an area with a high risk on noisy machines?
  Because they were careless, it was obvious this would happen and they should therefore be responsible for all the associated costs after the tragedy. I just know for a fact that it would be reported differently if the situation involved aboriginal people. Comments?
  

[Smallc]

You can bet if all these snowmobilers were aboriginal it would it be reported differently and you'd here such things as:

You're delusional.

[Griz]

You're delusional.

No, the media is delusional and biased with propaganda when it comes to aboriginal people. You know that it would be reported very differently if they were aboriginal snowmobilers.

[Smallc]

You know that it would be reported very differently if they were aboriginal snowmobilers.

I don't know it and I don't believe it. Your picking up a bias that isn't there.

[Griz]

I don't know it and I don't believe it. Your picking up a bias that isn't there.

In the original post I should have asked people to "hypothesize" that if those snowmobilers were aboriginal, how would it be reported? My reasoning, is to show people like you just how biased the media can be using this hypothesization as an example. Obviously you can't comprehend what bias is, because I can give you scores of example of how media would report differently when it comes to race. My bet is that those snowmobilers were drinking up in those hills on that fateful day

[Smallc]

My bet is that those snowmobilers were drinking up in those hills on that fateful day

And why would you make that kind of guess? Some type of bias?

Maybe it isn't the media that's biased.

[Griz]

And why would you make that kind of guess? Some type of bias?

Maybe it isn't the media that's biased.

Young, 20, holidays, nice day, they were probably drinking but that won't be reported

[Smallc]

Young, 20, holidays, nice day, they were probably drinking but that won't be reported

Even if they were, was that relevant to the situation? Do you know that it won't come up later?

[Wilber]

This is by no-means a posting out of disrespect but I couldn't help but bring this up to see what others think regarding the recent tragedy in the Kootenays of BC with the loss of snowmobilers.

You can bet if all these snowmobilers were aboriginal it would it be reported differently and you'd here such things as:

• What were they doing in the backcountry in such dangerous conditions?
  They were all mostly in there 20s so was alcohol a factor?
  Anybody knows that when you make lots of noise in avalanche country it may trigger a slide, so why would they enter an area with a high risk on noisy machines?
  Because they were careless, it was obvious this would happen and they should therefore be responsible for all the associated costs after the tragedy. I just know for a fact that it would be reported differently if the situation involved aboriginal people. Comments?
  

You make a lot of assumptions. Perhaps you could give the victims an their families the courtesy of waiting for the result of the coroners inquest.

[Griz]

You make a lot of assumptions. Perhaps you could give the victims an their families the courtesy of waiting for the result of the coroners inquest.

Do you know the meaning of hypothesis?

[Smallc]

Do you know the meaning of hypothesis?

What would you say if someone made that type of hypothesis in regards to an aboriginal person?

[Muddy]

I don`t know why anyone would compare aboriginal or any other race in this case. These deaths,sad as they are ,were from misadventure. Simple as that.

[Wilber]

Do you know the meaning of hypothesis?

I do. So what? It doesn't change the fact that you are making assumptions with no evidence to back them up. Apparently these guys were experienced and well equipped including carrying beacons. The avalanche risk was high so there is a question as to why they were out at that time. Complacency maybe from doing it so often with no incidents. Who knows, it's a judgment call with no guarantees at the best of times. Who are you going to go after for costs, their families? We have rescue teams risking their lives almost on a daily basis finding idiots who went out of bounds and got lost on the north shore mountains in Vancouver. As much as I would like them to be held accountable, even the rescue people aren't in favour of making them liable for costs as it could lead to bad decisions when it comes to calling for help.

Alcohol might be a factor but so far there is no evidence to make that assumption. I don't think it would have been reported differently if it had been aboriginals involved. This is an awful tragedy for any community and I believe it would be treated with respect, regardless.