Smallc Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 She isn't Canadian. Yes she is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 My point about the NDP and Lillian Dyck is that members of the NDP have accepted senate seats. You're saying the NDP won't accept senate seats as though the coalition wouldn't put NDP members in the senate. That's clearly not the case. NDP politicians may lose the NDP title going into the senate, but nothing is to stop them from using the "Independent NDP" title Senator Dyck uses, nor is that going to change their political beliefs once they get there. They are still NDP members that are accepting senate seats, on the minor technicality of not being called "NDP"; instead, they're called Ind. NDP. The coalition can appoint NDP members as senators, they will not sit as NDP once there, but that doesn't stop them from being appointed and accepting the seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 She isn't Canadian. I don't want outsiders deciding our Canadian laws and policy. What outsider she has probably lived in this Country longer then you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 So, you're right, the NDP doesn't accept senate seats, but neither does the LPC or CPC. It is their politicians that accept the senate appointments. And then they choose a political party to sit with. There is no Federal Senate NDP. IIRC there was an LPC Senator appointed by Trudeau who switched to the CPC? An NDP member who accepts a Senate Seat, would be viewed like someone who crosses the floor. The LPC, and CPC accept Sitting Senators into their caucus. And they are accepted in the house if given Cabinet seats, like Fortier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 What outsider she has probably lived in this Country longer then you. You mean longer then Ignatieff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 And give them out even when they say they want to change the system and have an elected Senate. That was the point from the start. Glade we reached it. So the Party does not accept the Senate seats they just give them out. red-herring again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 You mean longer then Ignatieff Yes I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 (edited) Yes she is. Damn, I fumbled the ball and left the door open for you to say that. I must be more careful in the future. I'll get better at this. Thanks. No rhetoric, no hyperbole, I'm making an effort to not be a jackass all the time. Now wheres my pat on the head? Edited December 11, 2008 by Mr.Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 She isn't Canadian. I don't want outsiders deciding our Canadian laws and policy. Better not read any free trade rulings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 An NDP member who accepts a Senate Seatwould be an NDP member accepting a senate seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Yes she is. is not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 red-herring again. The point that Harper has gone back on his world while the NDP are ready to kick members out of their caucus stands regardless of you responding or not and you know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterDC Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 "Ah, I see. Thank you for that.. Now show me the part that makes her an invalid Canadian " I never mentioned anything of the sort. I said she is an American, which she is.In politics, one focuses on truth that discredits a candidate and ignores other truths that make the target look favourable. This is the game. She isn't Canadian. I don't want outsiders deciding our Canadian laws and policy. Now you lost me.. Anyhow, please tell me.. Why should being born out of the country effect anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 would be an NDP member accepting a senate seat. Yeah, this could go on a long time... Follow the other one with Small C and Mr. Canada. They left off here. SHE IS.. oh darn it. That ones correct too. Forget it. SHort fun blast though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 "Ah, I see. Thank you for that..Now show me the part that makes her an invalid Canadian " Now you lost me.. Anyhow, please tell me.. Why should being born out of the country effect anything? Did she register for the draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 "Ah, I see. Thank you for that..Now show me the part that makes her an invalid Canadian " Now you lost me.. Anyhow, please tell me.. Why should being born out of the country effect anything? It seems that many Canadians would readily accept a foreigner bossing us around. I wouldn't. I don't think foreigners should be able to be PM but that's what we're setting ourselves up for. I like the law in the US that states that a foreign born person can never be President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 The point that Harper has gone back on his world while the NDP are ready to kick members out of their caucus stands regardless of you responding or not and you know it.And is entirely beside the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Yeah, this could go on a long time... Follow the other one with Small C and Mr. Canada. They left off here. SHE IS.. oh darn it. That ones correct too. Forget it. SHort fun blast though. Hey, at least I'm not being a jackass like I was when I first joined. We are arguing in peace without me spewing rhetoric and as smallc says, hyperbole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Yeah, this could go on a long time... Follow the other one with Small C and Mr. Canada. They left off here. SHE IS.. oh darn it. That ones correct too. Forget it. SHort fun blast though. But is it the true form of Lillian Dyck or just a cheap imitation of the true form of Lillian Dyck? Can we have true knowledge of this Lillian Dyck or just opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 and as smallc says, hyperbole. Just a correction. That wasn't me that said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 (edited) Just a correction. That wasn't me that said that. was too. Ok I will stop the nonsense. Edited December 11, 2008 by madmax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 It seems that many Canadians would readily accept a foreigner bossing us around. I wouldn't. I don't think foreigners should be able to be PM but that's what we're setting ourselves up for. I like the law in the US that states that a foreign born person can never be President. So you think John Turner was a bad PM? Maybe anyone who has ever left the country should never be PM too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 I'm surprised Charles Anthony hasn't deleted this entire thread yet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterDC Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 (edited) It seems that many Canadians would readily accept a foreigner bossing us around. I wouldn't. I don't think foreigners should be able to be PM but that's what we're setting ourselves up for. I like the law in the US that states that a foreign born person can never be President. You have a problem with Tommy Douglas and John Turner? What makes you think that somebody born out of the country is considered a "foreigner"??! Jeez.. Does the Citizenship act mean anything anymore?? What makes you think that somebody born inside the country is automatically loyal to the country? Edited December 11, 2008 by LesterDC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 I do have a problem with the rush of Senators about to be appointed. I think this does two things. It highlights how pathetic the Senate is. And possibly indicates that Harper is intending to gamble on an election come January, or should the majority opposition choose to work together, perhaps the Senate appointments will try to make delays in the Senate. Regardless, the Senate is completely flawed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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