Greens a Bust, Liberals Lose

[madmax]

The Liberals Collapsed............

....a Harper Majority appears to have been stopped by the NDP and a resurgent BQ.

The GPs pretty much were bust.

The GP leader faired worse.

Curiously the Previous NDP Candidate of 06 received More Votes then Elizabeth May did in08 and the NDP Candidate had to contend with a Solid Liberal Campaign in 06.

2006 NDP Candidate 13861 Against all parties

2008 GP LEADER 12,620 With Liberal Capitulation.

In the end 300 million spent for nothing. An angry population, disenchanted with government and not interested in voting. What a waste.

For the LPC an GP I see DEBT.

Lots of DEBT>

Don't know about the other 3 but I believe the CPC had a huge war chest.

[kengs333]

The GPs pretty much were bust.

The GP leader faired worse.

Yes, they increased their popular vote by 2% points, gaining about 300,000 votes. That looks like improvement to me. Too bad we don't have a fair system that allows them the 20+ seats they earned.

[madmax]

Yes, they increased their popular vote by 2% points, gaining about 300,000 votes. That looks like improvement to me. Too bad we don't have a fair system that allows them the 20+ seats they earned.

The Greens didn't earn a single seat.

The GP leader had it her way in Central Nova and she failed miserably.

The Conservatives increased their vote.

The NDP increased their seats.

The NDP had more voters in each province of BC/ALB/Sask/Man then the Liberals.

The Irony being that the NDP had nearly twice the votes of the Liberals in Sask and the Libs got a seat and the NDP didn't.

The Liberals were in dreamland all campaign.

The Greens talk big, on Bulletin Boards such as this and others and love to spin propoganda better then the CPC.

But to think in a System where a Minority Vote can WIN a seat, you have to wonder why the GP can't win a seat with a MINORITY VOTE.

Particularly the GIFT in Central Nova where Libs offered all there votes and the NDP voters backed May only to find out her hype and marketing were a FRAUD and that she was nowhere close to Mackay unlike the Previous NDP Candidate.

The Greens LOST ground in Central Nova compared to the NDP Candidate of 06.

I don't like agreeing with some of the posters on these forums But I have to tell you, the silent Majority, the 93% that some of the other posters are speaking of... rejected the GP and no one, not one GP candidate had the strength to win a seat , in a bi election or general election. All a strong GP candidate would have to do is win a minority of the vote to get in.

The GPs even ran a pro nuclear candidate to take a seat from the CPC and couldn't succeed. Nothing like tossing integrity aside to win.

Whereas, I have to wonder how the NDP managed to take out Jaffer. (Who I am very pleased to see gone, regardless of who beat him).

How did the NDP make a breakthrough in Alberta???

As for systems, they are all fair, and they are different.

The NDP would have benefited from a change in the system.

But the Playing field is the same for all parties.

Progressives, United Farmers, BQ, Reform, CCF, SOcial Credit, Communists, Conservatives, Canadian ALliance, Liberals, Liberal/Conservative, Progressive Conservatives, Independents and many many many many many more have succeeded where the GPs have not, yet continue to cry.

I saw no independents with the TV time that May demanded. May played the old boys card, dismissing previous Conservative and NDP female leaders of the Past. I believe the LPC are the only federal Party never to have had a Female Leader.

Yet with all the hype, the gifts from the networks, and polling numbers based on the hype as well as federal funding to help the GPs, there isn't alot to be said. The GPs will get more money from our pockets.

So the GPs are a bust in political terms. May did not get the 12 seats she claimed she would. May lost the only GP seat gifted to her from a questionable Liberal/independent, and why put your colour on a marked individual?

Meanwhile the knives are out for Dion. The Liberals lost this, and their calls for strategic Voting only cost other parties seats, and may have helped the CPC. Same is true for May as Peter MacKay gained votes while she lost ground.

Obviously, Harpers Stumble in Quebec was not Exploited by the Libs, GP or even the NDP but was stopped by a resurgent BQ. Thus Harper Lost his Majority, which was coming at the expense of a LPC Meltdown.

I expect in the next election, the LPC will get about 10,000 votes back from the Gps in Central Nova alone , by running a local, and the NDP will most likely recover their votes from the failed GP experiment.

In the end, in terms of the current parliment and parlimentary system,

The winners are the CPC, NDP and BQ and the Losers are the LPC and GP.

And the end losers are the Publics out of pocket expenses of $300,000,000..... all for the purpose of feeding Prime Ministers Harpers ego and opportunism.

Harper= Marginal Victory

Dion= Strategic Loss

Ducceppe= Tactical Victory

NDP=Marginal/tactical Victory

May=Marginal Loss -1 seat. Leader Seatless.

[capricorn]

Why do we keep paying over a million dollars of taxpayers' money after every election to the Greens when, time and again, they fail to elect one single MP? I know it does not sound like a lot of money in the country's large budget. But with the way things are going in the economy, shouldn't every dollar count in turns of value for money? What exactly is the return to the taxpayer for this expense?

[Moonbox]

Why do we keep paying over a million dollars of taxpayers' money after every election to the Greens when, time and again, they fail to elect one single MP? I know it does not sound like a lot of money in the country's large budget. But with the way things are going in the economy, shouldn't every dollar count in turns of value for money? What exactly is the return to the taxpayer for this expense?

The money goes to whichever party receives votes. It doesn't make sense that the Liberals or Conservatives should be the only ones getting money. I'm not green supporter but under current legislation it's almost impossible for a party to break out into the open and it'd be even harder without this fair and equitable form of funding.

[capricorn]

The money goes to whichever party receives votes. It doesn't make sense that the Liberals or Conservatives should be the only ones getting money.

Oh well, as long as the Conservatives continue getting the bigger slice......