Slim MacSquinty Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 We're here for you, we care. These are the latest ads by the Liberals, they are also on again about the conservative's US style policies, although they don't name a single policy, and I suspect couldn't if they tried. This is the same tactic they used last election where they told us what Canadian values were, remember, Harper is un-canadian because the liberals somehow own the patent on canadian values. If indeed we are facing uncertain times is this what Canadians want? The liberal party is your mommy they'll wipe away your tears and pat you on the head, that's rather condesending to the average half way intelligent voter wouldn't you say? Quote
nothinarian Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 We're here for you, we care. These are the latest ads by the Liberals, they are also on again about the conservative's US style policies, although they don't name a single policy, and I suspect couldn't if they tried.This is the same tactic they used last election where they told us what Canadian values were, remember, Harper is un-canadian because the liberals somehow own the patent on canadian values. If indeed we are facing uncertain times is this what Canadians want? The liberal party is your mommy they'll wipe away your tears and pat you on the head, that's rather condesending to the average half way intelligent voter wouldn't you say? They will all do and say what they think sells based on socio-demographic analysis and polling. And we as voters respond or they wouldn`t keep doing it. Negative ads are the same. All parties pooh-pooh them then turnaround and use them. Go with the flow - all parties are condescending and treat us as sheep. None is better except maybe Elizabeth May and that is only because of her recent arrival she hasn`t had time to be as tainted as the others. Quote Common sense is not so common. - Voltaire
TCCK Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 The Liberals sure were not there for me and my businesses like Chretien personally promised me. They have used this tactic for years and years but as soon as the Liberals are in power they are there for no one but themselves. Vote for them now and in 1 months time be prepared to be bent over the desk and given a nice butthole stretching. Don't drink the Liberal Kool-Aid, it'll kill you AND THIS COUNTRY!!! Quote
mikedavid00 Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 The liberal party is your mommy they'll wipe away your tears and pat you on the head, that's rather condesending to the average half way intelligent voter wouldn't you say? Yeah it's funny I rarely hear the Conservative ads. There are those who work and build the country, then there are those who tell everyone how we should live. The latter has a franchise on our media and political system. Harper just finished on CPAC right now and it's almost a celebration speech. He's really happy right now. I'm sure he'll be very agressive in his governing and wont cave to special intrest. The Libs will be in no state (financial or otherwise) to start another election. Harper knows this, so it's a as good as a majority to him (that's what I heard a pundit say on the radio). Quote ---- Charles Anthony banned me for 30 days on April 28 for 'obnoxious libel' when I suggested Jack Layton took part in illegal activities in a message parlor. Claiming a politician took part in illegal activity is not rightful cause for banning and is what is discussed here almost daily in one capacity or another. This was really a brownshirt style censorship from a moderator on mapleleafweb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1oGB-BKdZg---
nothinarian Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 (edited) The Liberals sure were not there for me and my businesses like Chretien personally promised me. They have used this tactic for years and years but as soon as the Liberals are in power they are there for no one but themselves.Vote for them now and in 1 months time be prepared to be bent over the desk and given a nice butthole stretching. Don't drink the Liberal Kool-Aid, it'll kill you AND THIS COUNTRY!!! You partisans still don`t get it THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. PERIOD. Conservative, Liberal, NDP, etc.... all have a certain percentage of dishonest people in their party and once in power that percentage will screw you eventually Absolute power corrupts absolutely - Lord Acton Edited October 14, 2008 by nothinarian Quote Common sense is not so common. - Voltaire
mikedavid00 Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 They have used this tactic for years and years but as soon as the Liberals are in power they are there for no one but themselves. The Liberals do nothing but focus on wining more seats and keeping themselves in power. It was funny.. Paul Martin: "We need to start bringin in MORE immigrants, but this time, to different part of the country". Geeee I wonder why they want immigrants in other ridings.. err.. i mean 'parts of Canada'. They're just a corrupt, garbage party. Quote ---- Charles Anthony banned me for 30 days on April 28 for 'obnoxious libel' when I suggested Jack Layton took part in illegal activities in a message parlor. Claiming a politician took part in illegal activity is not rightful cause for banning and is what is discussed here almost daily in one capacity or another. This was really a brownshirt style censorship from a moderator on mapleleafweb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1oGB-BKdZg---
independent Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 The Liberals sure were not there for me and my businesses like Chretien personally promised me. They have used this tactic for years and years but as soon as the Liberals are in power they are there for no one but themselves.Vote for them now and in 1 months time be prepared to be bent over the desk and given a nice butthole stretching. Don't drink the Liberal Kool-Aid, it'll kill you AND THIS COUNTRY!!! You run a very successful business from what you said. Why do you need help from the government. Are you not making enough money. Quote
capricorn Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 None is better except maybe Elizabeth May and that is only because of her recent arrival she hasn`t had time to be as tainted as the others. As a pseudo-Liberal, it wouldn't take long for May to join the "I'm entitled to my entitlements" crowd. Heck, the rumours of Environment Minister May and Senator May are all over the internet. She's getting a head start at putting her snout in the trough. Oink Oink Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Slim MacSquinty Posted October 14, 2008 Author Report Posted October 14, 2008 Here's another things thats been bothering me, so how is it that federal funding should go to municipalities, don't they have a source of revenue already? How can any municipality win in this scenario, since all the taxpayers overlap? Like the whiner in Toronto, David, can't get a decent haircut, Miller who is really just saying send me your tax dollars, which of course means that other municipalities should be contributing to Toronto because its more important than everywhere else. Assuming taxes are a fixed pot, zero sum game, then isn't it just stealing from Paul to pay Peter? Quote
nothinarian Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 As a pseudo-Liberal, it wouldn't take long for May to join the "I'm entitled to my entitlements" crowd. Heck, the rumours of Environment Minister May and Senator May are all over the internet. She's getting a head start at putting her snout in the trough. Oink Oink They all have their snout in the trough Senator Fortier, David Emmerson and all those political appointments made by Harper (40 at once, 40!!!) make him guilty of the same patronage that he chastised the Liberals for while Opp Leader http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...cialNewTory2006 http://www.canada.com/topics/news/politics...318&k=86394 http://www.canada.com/topics/news/politics...6b6&k=28765 Policy differences I can respect but Idiotic and naive claims that one is more ethical than the other or even better the old ``they were worse than we are ``argument is pathetic Our political system has inherent conflicts of interest and opportunites for abuse of power - Every party has used it to their advantage and will continue to do so Quote Common sense is not so common. - Voltaire
Slim MacSquinty Posted October 14, 2008 Author Report Posted October 14, 2008 I think they are all bad examples to spread the wisdom of your thoughts, here why: Reaching accross the floor for Emerson was a great non-partisan appointment, contrary to you post. Forteir was to provide Montreal with representation, that can't be a bad thing. Two new and one elevation of judges is not a big deal, do you have something bad to say about any of the pre-recommended individuals? The report you cite, mentions (although near the bottom) that of the 40 appointments several were high profile liberals and that the 40 appointments were generously sprinkled with conservative, my guess he couldn't find too many credible NDP's Quote
capricorn Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 Reaching accross the floor for Emerson was a great non-partisan appointment, contrary to you post. Emerson's contributed immensely to the competence of Harper's government, hence to Canada. Too bad he won't run again. What a loss. Forteir was to provide Montreal with representation, that can't be a bad thing. A good thing and added to skills needed in Harper's caucus. Had it been to provide representation for Toronto would there have been as much criticism? Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
TCCK Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 You run a very successful business from what you said. Why do you need help from the government. Are you not making enough money. I don't need more money from the government, less taxes is a different thing though. I would love to be able to say to ALL my employees hey 5% raise just becasue we are making so much and you helped me do it. I would love to pay for more of them to stop smoking or for more maritial counselling so they stay in happy productive families. Or be able to give to local charities more. You have no freaking clue who I am or what I do as a businessman in this country. You I have no idea who you are, you could be a welfare sucking sore on Canada's back. I want this country to do better and yes I want my businesses to do better so I can do more positive things for those I can effect. If you want to call me a greedy big business owner that lives off the coffers of the Federal Government then you Sir are a FOOL !!! You will find people that care about other people and have money understand a universal law that has been proven for centuries " If you give it will be given back to you." Or in words you may understand "Be generous and you will prosper". Look at people like Warren Buffet, Bill Gates; why do you think they are so rich???? By constantly exploiting people, NO BECAUSE THEY ARE GENEROUS!!! If more people in this world understood this prinicple the world would be one nicer place. We do not need the government to do it all for us like the Liberals, NDP and Green preach over and over. Let businesses prosper and they will do way more with what they have than the government would have ever done. So Mr. Independant if you want to accuse me of being a greedy big business owner you truly are an uneducated fool. Quote
eyeball Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 They will all do and say what they think sells based on socio-demographic analysis and polling. And we as voters respond or they wouldn`t keep doing it. Negative ads are the same. All parties pooh-pooh them then turnaround and use them.Go with the flow - all parties are condescending and treat us as sheep. None is better except maybe Elizabeth May and that is only because of her recent arrival she hasn`t had time to be as tainted as the others. Speaking of pooh pooh and Elizabeth May, Robin Williams would probably refer to her as being like a fresh diaper. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
guyser Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 The Liberals do nothing but focus on wining more seats and keeping themselves in power. Stop the presses ! Quote
guyser Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 Miller who is really just saying send me your tax dollars, which of course means that other municipalities should be contributing to Toronto because its more important than everywhere else. Do the math . Miller is right (although an idiot) TO needs more money back .Munis get TO money , not the other way around. Quote
TCCK Posted October 15, 2008 Report Posted October 15, 2008 Do the math . Miller is right (although an idiot) TO needs more money back .Munis get TO money , not the other way around. Toronto is NOT the center of the universe and no the rest of the country should not pay homage to all-might Toronto. Let Toronto stand on its own 2 feet, BC has to do that sending its tax dollar East and yet getting back barely any of it as it all goes to Ontario, Quebec and the dying Maritime provinces. I am sick of the Ottawa sucking the West dry for all it is worth and sending jack $**t back to us but handing over billions to Quebec when they sit there like fatcats contributing little to the country. Look at the political arena for example, a provincial party basically running federally with no interest in the rest of the country and not contributing to the National Political arena. Just take, take, take! I am embarrassed to say my lineage is French Canadian. (Family goes back to the very first French settlement boat to come to Canada. The French part of my family is mainly on welfare and have no interest in contributing to society.) That is why I do not have a single location of any of my businesses in Quebec!! Quote
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