Senior Tory spokesman suspended

[capricorn]

The equivalent would be if I denounced the "Dion team" for writing a letter of commendation for a vicious, violent international drug trafficker and gangster in BC who is facing sentencing in the US.

"The Dion team, in attempting to get a soft sentence for a brutal violent gangster, is demonstrating just how little it cares about dealing with violent offenders in Canada, and how friendly it is with organized crime figures."

Of course, I would never attribute the moronic mistake of a Liberal Party MP with the entire party - though of course, Dion has said nothing about this, nor demanded any kind of apology or offered up any sanction for the BC Liberal who did this.

Dion made a campaign stop in Dhaliwal's riding yesterday. It seems Dion was too busy promising an apology to the Sikh community to deal with Dhaliwal's outrageous conduct.

Liberal leader Stéphane Dion won a standing ovation from a largely Indo-Canadian audience when he promised to apologize in the House of Commons for the 1914 Komagata Maru incident.

"We cannot be blinded by the mistakes we made," Dion said at a campaign rally in Liberal candidate Sukh Dhaliwal's riding of Newton-North Delta near Vancouver.

http://www.thestar.com/FederalElection/article/498775

Why spoil the moment?

[jdobbin]

Even before this election began the media was saying that Dion was clearly intending to take the low road, in that Harper is much admired by the Canadian people and they needed to bring him down. Insiders with the Liberal Party had already confirmed to the media that they had a slew of nasty attack ads ready to air, and Dion himself set the tone by calling Harper names on practically the first day of the campaign. I've just seen the first NDP ad this morning and it too is a nasty attack ad. The Tories are a party which could actually run on the issues if it chose. But as the Liberals and NDP have nothing much to offer, dirt is about all they can throw out.

This "the Liberals and NDP did it first" argument as the reason for the attack, attack, attack approach is hardly a defence for the hyperpartisan war room and its department of dirty tricks. You say Harper can run on the issues. Time to do it and to get control of the children in the back room who are tripping up his message.

[Shakeyhands]

Even before this election began the media was saying that Dion was clearly intending to take the low road, in that Harper is much admired by the Canadian people and they needed to bring him down. Insiders with the Liberal Party had already confirmed to the media that they had a slew of nasty attack ads ready to air, and Dion himself set the tone by calling Harper names on practically the first day of the campaign. I've just seen the first NDP ad this morning and it too is a nasty attack ad. The Tories are a party which could actually run on the issues if it chose. But as the Liberals and NDP have nothing much to offer, dirt is about all they can throw out.

Were you actually able to type this with a straight face Argus?

From Puffin pooping and unflatterig pictures to trying to denigrate a fallen soldiers father by labeling him a liberal, to trying to scare people off the Liberals platform with outright falsehoods and lies... I've yet to see one attack ad from the Liberals (please point one out if I am wrong) and I think it's the CPC that dragging the discourse down.

[DrGreenthumb]

I"m not insulting you, I'm insulting your shrill, emotional, whiny, accusatory and just plain stupid posts. Forgive me if that offends you.

If you put a little more reasoning into your posts, presuming you are capable of doing so, perhaps people would respond with reason.

All you ever do is personal attacks and sound like a bigot and an idiot. You have never made a post in here that was worth reading so I don't know where you get off insulting other people's contributions. You really just seem like a small angry little boy with a grade three education, and a chip on your shoulder because all the other boys laughed at you in the shower. Every post you make only reaffirms my belief in your absolute idiocy.

How exactly is saying every one of my posts is about about pot and saying I sound stupid insulting my post that had nothing to do with pot? It was a personal attack an attempt to discredit whatever I say because I use Cannabis instead on tylenol 3. Fine, sticks and stones. Just don't cry like a little bit$h when you get the same treatment in return.

[thermo]

The outcry didn't come from the families, though, or the mlitary.

Sorry, it did. there was a few families belonging to a recently (at the time) slain soldier who made a really big stink about it. their thinking was that they died for the benefit of the nation defending democracy & freedom etc - and as such all canadians should be able to share the loss as a community. one family member even criticized the decision in the eulogy!!!

also - some family & friends can't make the return ceremonies and would expect to be able to watch it on tv.

[thermo]

I seriously doubt you know anyone in the military. If you did you'd have a better grasp about what the military though about that absurd flag lowering nonsense.

one of my best friends of over 10 years is going back for a third time very soon - not that it's any of your business.

i'm getting sick of getting into absurd side debates with a such a useless tool, completely unwilling to debate things in a civil manner and acknowledge anything that may run contrary to your skewed worldview.

and i'm sure i'm not the only one here feeling that way. just look at this thread - everyone here is wasting their time responding to your personal attacks and mistake ridden, baseless views. ffs - you were even launching personal insults at a guy suffering from arthritis.

we're never going to have a sensible conversation or debate here with you making hateful posts completely detached from reality.

grow up.

[Bryan]

I tend to agree with Davis. A lot can change in over two years. We may find that there are very good reasons for staying in Afghanistan past 2011. Committing to their removal this far in advance seems ill advised unless it is to get some of our "allies" off their collective asses.

If the situation changes substantially, then so does the policy. That would not be a broken promise if the context under which the original commitment was made did not exist anymore.

[Smallc]

If the situation changes substantially, then so does the policy. That would not be a broken promise if the context under which the original commitment was made did not exist anymore.

See, thats Harpers problem though. He has made more than one promise that he hasn't been able to keep. Now he usually has a good reason for it, but the fact remains that he really shouldn't have made the promise in the first place.

[jay22]

From wanting to match them into Iraq, to refusing to lower the flag for fallen troops, to barring any media from funeral/return ceremonies - I can tell you the people I know in the military are not exactly Harpers biggest fans at this point!

You can"t make everyone happy.There are some who don't wantt the media there and some who do.As with the media i do think its the right choice to ban them.Family should be have there privacy.Now for the familys that want the media that should be up to them with help from the gov.

[Argus]

one of my best friends of over 10 years is going back for a third time very soon - not that it's any of your business.

i'm getting sick of getting into absurd side debates with a such a useless tool, completely unwilling to debate things in a civil manner and acknowledge anything that may run contrary to your skewed worldview.

and i'm sure i'm not the only one here feeling that way. just look at this thread - everyone here is wasting their time responding to your personal attacks and mistake ridden, baseless views. ffs - you were even launching personal insults at a guy suffering from arthritis.

we're never going to have a sensible conversation or debate here with you making hateful posts completely detached from reality.

grow up.

Nothing wrong with my reality, son. It's just that's it's coming from this universe. Not sure where yours was born, but I don't think you'll find anyone with more than half a brain suggesting the overwhelming majority of military folks aren't going to vote for Harper.

[Argus]

Sorry, it did. there was a few families belonging to a recently (at the time) slain soldier who made a really big stink about it

Really? Cite it then. If it was a "really big stink" it must have been in all the papers.

Because I can't remember a single mention in the media of anything coming from any of the families prior to the decision being reversed.

Nor was there anything coming from the military or families about the flag on parliament hill. Do find me a mention of that while you're doing your research.

[Argus]

All you ever do is personal attacks and sound like a bigot and an idiot. You have never made a post in here that was worth reading so I don't know where you get off insulting other people's contributions. You really just seem like a small angry little boy with a grade three education, and a chip on your shoulder because all the other boys laughed at you in the shower. Every post you make only reaffirms my belief in your absolute idiocy.

All very childish silliness not worthy of a response. You could at least try a little imagination.

How exactly is saying every one of my posts is about about pot and saying I sound stupid insulting my post that had nothing to do with pot?

You've made it quite clear from the moment you came on this site that you were full of bitterness and anger at Harper and the Conservatives over their drug policy. We couldn't even get you to shut up about it, at first. Every thread on every issue wound up being about your ranting on drugs. Everything you do and say flows from that one single issue of yours. And that is why I take none of it seriously. Whenever you do talk about something else your reasoning is either absent or silly because your real purpose is to once again bitch at the evil Mr. Harper.

[tango]

hmm ... and this is a problem ... why?