brawnyboy93 Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 (edited) Greetings. My friend sent me a few of these canadian political cartoons, and I don't quite understand them, seeing as I just moved to Canada as an immigrant, and I've never really read any political cartoons before. http://www.mackaycartoons.net/2006/2006-09-02.jpg http://www.cagle.com/working/060823/nease.jpg http://canadiancynic.blogspot.com/2007/11/...utrage-and.html http://www.mackaycartoons.net/2008/2008-02-07.jpg So basically, could you explain to me... 1) What is the message of these political cartoons? 2) Do you think it is making a fair statement? Why or why not? I'm currently getting into Canadian politics and reading up and how the government and all works here in Canada. I also want to find out all the issues and events occuring in Canada. I know these cartoons are not the most recent, but I still want to know what they mean, as I can understand what has happened in the past. Thank-you very much. Edited July 27, 2008 by brawnyboy93 Quote
Drea Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 How can you be "getting into" Canadian politics if you cannot understand simple cartoons? Sheesh. Live here for a while... you don't even know if you are a Conservative, Liberal, NDP'er, Greener or whatever yet. One does not move to a country and jump into politics before you even know who the people are and how they think. Learn about the country first. See you in ten years. LOL Quote ...jealous much? Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee
brawnyboy93 Posted July 27, 2008 Author Report Posted July 27, 2008 (edited) How can you be "getting into" Canadian politics if you cannot understand simple cartoons? Sheesh.Live here for a while... you don't even know if you are a Conservative, Liberal, NDP'er, Greener or whatever yet. One does not move to a country and jump into politics before you even know who the people are and how they think. Learn about the country first. See you in ten years. LOL Whoa, slow down there buddy. You shouldn't jump to conclusions so fast like that. I didn't mean I was actually "getting" into politics, as in becoming an actual political party member or anything. All I stated was that I wanted to read up on Canada's current and past issues and events. What? Can one individual not be knowledgeable of what happens in Canada? Besides that, my Canadian friend sent me those cartoons just for fun, and I don't know what they mean. I thought I could come here and ask what they mean, but I guess I'm obviously in the wrong place. No offence, but you should really consider removing the thing thats stuck up in your ass. Anyways, peace out. I'll be searching for a better forum. Edited July 27, 2008 by brawnyboy93 Quote
Wild Bill Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 Whoa, slow down there buddy. You shouldn't jump to conclusions so fast like that. I didn't mean I was actually "getting" into politics, as in becoming an actual political party member or anything. All I stated was that I wanted to read up on Canada's current and past issues and events. What? Can one individual not be knowledgeable of what happens in Canada? Besides that, my Canadian friend sent me those cartoons just for fun, and I don't know what they mean. I thought I could come here and ask what they mean, but I guess I'm obviously in the wrong place. No offence, but you should really consider removing the thing thats stuck up in your ass. Anyways, peace out. I'll be searching for a better forum. Perhaps "the thing" was the chip on your shoulder! Drea's words didn't seem accusatory at all to me when I read them! Just some simple observation, advice and a "smiley". If you're THAT sensitive I suggest when you're looking for a "better forum" you stay the heck away from the "babble.com" bunch. I've never met a more rude, crude and intolerant crowd. Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
capricorn Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 my Canadian friend sent me those cartoons just for fun, and I don't know what they mean. I thought I could come here and ask what they mean, but I guess I'm obviously in the wrong place. Maybe your Canadian "friend" knows what the cartoons mean. Did you ask him/her first? I have a feeling you did not but came straight here for reasons only you are aware of at this point. No offence, but you should really consider removing the thing thats stuck up in your ass. That was uncalled for. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Drea Posted July 28, 2008 Report Posted July 28, 2008 Whoa, slow down there buddy. You shouldn't jump to conclusions so fast like that. I didn't mean I was actually "getting" into politics, as in becoming an actual political party member or anything. All I stated was that I wanted to read up on Canada's current and past issues and events. What? Can one individual not be knowledgeable of what happens in Canada? Besides that, my Canadian friend sent me those cartoons just for fun, and I don't know what they mean. I thought I could come here and ask what they mean, but I guess I'm obviously in the wrong place. No offence, but you should really consider removing the thing thats stuck up in your ass. Anyways, peace out. I'll be searching for a better forum. You stated that you have just moved here and do not understand Canadian politics yet in the same breath you say you are "getting into" politics. No need to go postal geez. I AM interested in your position... I just don't think brand new immigrants belong in politics LOL Where yah from? What made you come here? Do you like it so far? What province are you living in and do you plan to stay there? Canadians are not "one unit" on political affairs -- hang around MLW for a bit (if you can play nice) and you will see a huge diversity of opinion. Cheers! Quote ...jealous much? Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee
madmax Posted July 28, 2008 Report Posted July 28, 2008 I just don't think brand new immigrants belong in politics LOL But foreigners posting here are well received LOL Canadians are not "one unit" on political affairs -- hang around MLW for a bit (if you can play nice) and you will see a huge diversity of opinion.Cheers! MLW does have a huge diversity of opinion. And lots of crossover in ideas that come from people supporting different parties. Also there is alot of fun partisanship. Follow some of the threads and you will see the directions the discussions go. Quote
madmax Posted July 28, 2008 Report Posted July 28, 2008 Greetings. My friend sent me a few of these canadian political cartoons, and I don't quite understand them, seeing as I just moved to Canada as an immigrant, and I've never really read any political cartoons before. Well, these cartoons are funny. Unfortuneately a picture is worth a thousand words and a cartoon, 10,000. Quote
brawnyboy93 Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Posted July 28, 2008 LOL!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS HILARIOUS! So basically, I get like 10 posts in this thread, yet not even one can answer my question? Is this a joke? LMAO! What kind of forum is this, honestly? I really don't feel comfortable talking with a bunch of peeps who think they're so smart, yet none of them even know how to answer a question. But that's not a problem for me anymore. I already got what I was looking for from a different forum. Eh, and don't even bother replying back, simply because I'm not even going to read your douchebag responses. Good luck with your futures! Quote
segnosaur Posted July 28, 2008 Report Posted July 28, 2008 Greetings. My friend sent me a few of these canadian political cartoons, and I don't quite understand them, seeing as I just moved to Canada as an immigrant, and I've never really read any political cartoons before. http://www.mackaycartoons.net/2006/2006-09-02.jpg (Canadian troops entering a plane shaped like NDP leader Jack Layton's head) Many in the New Democratic Party (including its leader Jack Layton) wants Canada to remove its troops from Afghanistan. I'm not sure, but the fact that the plane is shaped like Layton (and the soldiers are entering through the 'mouth') but the cartoon could be referring to the use of empty rhetoric by the NDP... they think they can 'fix' Afghanistan without actually doing anything to directly stop the violence.) http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/09/09/...fghanistan.html http://www.cagle.com/working/060823/nease.jpg (Harper is in Troy, and is about to accept a 'Trojan Horse' with the label 'softwood lumber deal' on it.) Although Canada has a free trade deal with the U.S., the U.S. has continued to apply taxes to certain lumber products imported from Canada. (Most, but not all, court rulings have agreed that, under our free trade rules, the U.S. shouldn't be taxing the lumber.) A year or 2 ago, the government under Harper managed to come to an agreement with the U.S. government over these taxes. (Under the deal, we got some of the money back from the states, but not all. Some taxes are removed, but only under certain conditions.) Critics of the deal suggest that there shouldn't be any taxes, and by accepting the deal we're selling out and giving up when we're morally right. (Or, accepting the 'trojan horse' into our castle.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States..._lumber_dispute http://canadiancynic.blogspot.com/2007/11/...utrage-and.html (Harper orders his top general to defeat the 'bad guys', with a map of Afghanistan in the background, while the General agrees showing the troops actually in Toronto) I think this is just supposed to be some comment on the way the government handles people who disagree with their policies. Problem is, it just doesn't seem to be that funny. http://www.mackaycartoons.net/2008/2008-02-07.jpg (Dion in an old fashioned duel with Harper, with the caption 'Afghanistan'... Dion is stating "I insist this be a non-combat duel".) I think what this cartoon is related to the stance that Dion has stated... that Canada should end its actual combat mission in Afghanistan, and instead concentrate on 'reconstruction'. (We'd keep some people in Afghanistan, but they wouldn't actually be fighting the enemy. Instead, we'd be training people, rebuilding schools, etc.) The problem with that belief is that it ignores the fact that unless we actually fight the Taliban, they may be able to return to power (and thus all the reconstruction would be a waste.) The cartoon appears to support that belief, by showing how 'silly' it is to insist on 'non combat' in situations where combat is actually expected/required. Quote
capricorn Posted July 28, 2008 Report Posted July 28, 2008 What kind of forum is this, honestly? I really don't feel comfortable talking with a bunch of peeps who think they're so smart, yet none of them even know how to answer a question. But that's not a problem for me anymore. I already got what I was looking for from a different forum. Another forum eh? Under what name? S'OK, I know you won't tell. Eh, and don't even bother replying back, simply because I'm not even going to read your douchebag responses. I don't believe you. I had you pegged from your first post. You won't be able to help yourself and you will check back to see if there are responses to your asinine, juvenile comments. Good bye, troll. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Fortunata Posted July 29, 2008 Report Posted July 29, 2008 LOL, I love the trojan horse cartoon. Yep, we got shafted again but this time by our own who just couldn't wait to make his mark, like a dog peeing on the neighbour's tree. Quote
Wild Bill Posted July 29, 2008 Report Posted July 29, 2008 Another forum eh? Under what name? S'OK, I know you won't tell.I don't believe you. I had you pegged from your first post. You won't be able to help yourself and you will check back to see if there are responses to your asinine, juvenile comments. Good bye, troll. Might I also suggest that this troll is from the "far left" of "progressive" thought? The arrogance and incredibly bad manners are a dead giveaway. Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
eyeball Posted July 29, 2008 Report Posted July 29, 2008 Might I also suggest that this troll is from the "far left" of "progressive" thought?The arrogance and incredibly bad manners are a dead giveaway. Takes a troll to catch a troll. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Fortunata Posted July 30, 2008 Report Posted July 30, 2008 Might I also suggest that this troll is from the "far left" of "progressive" thought?The arrogance and incredibly bad manners are a dead giveaway. LOL, oh the irony!! Quote
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