Guest American Woman Posted August 13, 2008 Report Posted August 13, 2008 (edited) Again, GostHacked, well said. Your post is hilarious, but the reality is that this shows a sad state of affairs when we have to label every "unusual" behavior being part of some disorder.Had a friend whose dad went out every Friday after work for one (literally one) beer, and suddenly some New Age pop psychology fanatic said, "Oh, he's an alcoholic." Like lots of sex? Oh, your a sex addict. Laugh at your own jokes and it is supposedly the sign of some kind of disorder. And on and on it goes. Some layman who doesn't even know your friend's dad calling him an alcoholic is a whole lot different from a person being diagnosed through legitimate testing by educated professionals. So no, it doesn't go on and on. At least not in the true diagnostic sense. If someone has a disorder, such as autism, it's important for them to be diagnosed so the problem can be treated and the right education methods can be used. The earlier the intervention, the better. There is no reason for anyone to struggle more than necessary if they can be diagnosed and helped. There is no reason for someone to not be able to function to the best of their ability if help is available. Edited August 13, 2008 by American Woman Quote
Live From China Posted August 14, 2008 Report Posted August 14, 2008 But I am incredibly suspect of the so-called legitimate testing. The educated professionals invent a new syndrome or disorder with a whole pile of symptoms. Then they test for the symptoms. But if the disorder is fake to start with ........ Quote
HisSelf Posted August 14, 2008 Report Posted August 14, 2008 At least my lack of empathy was not unusual. Having practiced as a psychotherapist for 35 years, LaBier believes that what he calls empathy deficit disorder (EDD) is rampant among Americans. LaBier says we unlearn whatever empathy skills we've picked up while coming of age in a culture that focuses on acquisition and status more than cooperation and values "moving on" over thoughtful reflection. LaBier is convinced that EDD is at the heart of modernity's most common problems, macro (war) and micro (divorce). As LaBier explains, virtually everyone learns the basics of empathy in childhood (from our parents comforting us when we're in distress), but my father died when I was 4, and afterward my mother had to be very can-do, juggling three jobs, graduate school, and two kids. When I was upset, she never said, "Oh, I'm sorry. It must be hard to have me away so much after losing your dad." Instead, on good days, she'd say, "Why are you crying? Nothing is wrong." And on bad days: "You'd better toughen up because life can get a lot worse." Looking back at my 20-something self, I realize that if, as LaBier says, empathy is "the ability or the willingness to experience the world from someone else's point of view," I wasn't brought up to be able to do that. http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/personal/06...athy/index.html So being strict or assertive, instead of being a natural reaction among a great number of people in certain situations, could be a sign of a disorder? I confused. My guess is that if it exists it just might be a result of overcrowding. Quote ...
jbg Posted August 15, 2008 Report Posted August 15, 2008 If you had not known or been told they were semi-autistic, would you have known the difference? I have a son on the high-end of the autistic spectrum, with PDD-NOS or pervasive development disorder not otherwise specified. It is a cousin to Aspergers. And the answer is, yes you figure out there's something wrong though not immediately. Examples of famous Aspergers people are Bill Gates and Thomas Jefferson, the latter presumably not familiar to Canadians. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
M.Dancer Posted August 15, 2008 Report Posted August 15, 2008 I have a son on the high-end of the autistic spectrum, with PDD-NOS or pervasive development disorder not otherwise specified. It is a cousin to Aspergers.And the answer is, yes you figure out there's something wrong though not immediately. Examples of famous Aspergers people are Bill Gates and Thomas Jefferson, the latter presumably not familiar to Canadians. Not at all. A fringe band from the 90s http://www.collectorscum.com/datapanik/tjsa/ Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Pliny Posted August 15, 2008 Report Posted August 15, 2008 (edited) As it happens I've met two kids recently who have asperger's. In all regards they appeared normal except they were non social and somewhat non communicative. And what it is is a form of autism. Asperger's syndrome has a definitive physiological marker so does not fall into the category of no physiological marker and thus not just a subjective invention of "disease". If you would care to research it. The person who discovered the physiological marker is neurologist Dr. Fred Baughman. He has a websight you can google. Edited August 15, 2008 by Pliny Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
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