charter.rights Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 So you belong to a 12 step program that has more many Priests in it who are all drunks and are pedophiles. This is what you claimed. Yes you said the Catholic CHurch was full of pedophiles and drunks and you personally knew of a lot of the Priests in your area. You wouldn't know of the authority I hold within the church or the contacts I have. I am Roman Catholic and am very active in the Catholic community. You are still either making things up in your delusion mind OR you are lying. No I did not say that the Church was full of pedophiles. I said the protection of pedophiles, drunkards and adulterers is rampant. Nothing more. Please take you meds before you post. Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
CANADIEN Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Why would you, an atheist go to see the Holy Father? So you can make fun of the Christians? I asked for the names of these Priests that he claims to know who are drunks and pedophiles. So I can look into it and get them excommunicated if found to be true.Pedophiles are in every profession in the world. The Catholic Church gets all the press, that's all. It doesn't mean that the RCC is rampant with pedophiles, give me a break. There are many many more child abuses in the public education system but this is rarely reported by the left wing MSM, gee I wonder why. Me, an atheist? Mind if I tell that one to my parish priest? He'll get a laugh. The same way I laugh when you claim to have the power to have pedophile priests excommunicated. Quote
CANADIEN Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) You wouldn't know of the authority I hold within the church (...) And something tells me the Archbishop's office doesn't know it either. Edited January 19, 2009 by CANADIEN Quote
MontyBurns Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Don't know the difference between socialist and communist, I see. They are different loser philosophies. Quote "From my cold dead hands." Charlton Heston
BigAl Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 So speaks the man who claims that killing in the name of God is OK. You beat me to it, Canadien. The religion of freedom is Christianity? Come on -- I have yet to see proof that ANY religion breeds freedom. I don't have any more or any less problem with Christianity or Catholicism than I do with any other organized religion; maybe my opinion would change if I saw more Christians actually behaving like Christians (you know, the whole "forgiveness, Golden-Rule" rap) and not like mildly psychotic bigots. What would Jesus do? I bet you he wouldn't diddle kids, and I'll lay money on that claim. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Me, an atheist? Mind if I tell that one to my parish priest? He'll get a laugh.The same way I laugh when you claim to have the power to have pedophile priests excommunicated. If you're RC then you must be against abortion and gay marriage or you're not a RC and are excommunicated in the eyes of God. Read the Catechism. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
M.Dancer Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 If you're RC then you must be against abortion and gay marriage or you're not a RC and are excommunicated in the eyes of God. Read the Catechism. Read it. The cathecism leaves room for gay marriage Next follow the words between qualified persons; for persons excluded by law cannot contract marriage, and if they do their marriage is invalid. Persons, for instance, within the fourth degree of kindred, a boy before his fourteenth year, and a female before her twelfth, the ages established by law, cannot contract marriage. http://www.cin.org/users/james/ebooks/mast...ent/tsacr-m.htm Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Mr.Canada Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Read it. The cathecism leaves room for gay marriage Article 7THE SACRAMENT OF MATRIMONY 1601 "The matrimonial covenant, by which a man and a woman establish between themselves a partnership of the whole of life, is by its nature ordered toward the good of the spouses and the procreation and education of offspring; this covenant between baptized persons has been raised by Christ the Lord to the dignity of a sacrament."84 Source This is the opening tract concerning the Sacrament of Matrimony. Not much more needs to be said, it speaks for itself. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
M.Dancer Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 SourceThis is the opening tract concerning the Sacrament of Matrimony. Not much more needs to be said, it speaks for itself. So you are saying then, that marriages between couples who cannot or will not have children are void? is by its nature ordered toward the good of the spouses and the procreation and education of offspring Further evidence of why most Catholics give only lip service to Rome.. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Mr.Canada Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Further evidence of why most Catholics give only lip service to Rome.. I cited that quote from the Catechism to disprove your previous allegations of gay marriage and the RCC. Many Catholics live their faith. Saying most is disingenuous. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
M.Dancer Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 I cited that quote from the Catechism to disprove your previous allegations of gay marriage and the RCC.Many Catholics live their faith. Saying most is disingenuous. Yes And I also cited part of the cathechism...so what? Many/most ignore Rome. And why would they pay heed to rome? Mainly because Papal infallibility has proven to be so fallible. Wrong on Copernicus, wrong on conception. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
CANADIEN Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 If you're RC then you must be against abortion and gay marriage or you're not a RC and are excommunicated in the eyes of God. Read the Catechism. Done one thing better, looked at the Code of Canon Law Are to be excommunicated: - the schimatics, apostates or heretics - those who physically assault the Pope - adulturous priests - those who toss or hide for sacrilegeous purpose consacrated wine and bread - bishops who ordain other bishops with proper authorisation - priests who violate the secret of confession - those who perform a successful abortion Pretty limited list. Now you are welcome to argue that support for a right to abortion or gay marriage is a form of heresy, but then would be stement such as "the Jews killed Jesus" (an opinion you have expressed), since the Second Vatican Council formally rejectec the idea of the Jewish people being collectively responsible for it. BTW, I believe that life becomes at conception and that a true marriage is between a man and a woman. Don't let the act that I am not homophobic fool you on that account. Quote
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