RCMP raids Tory party headquarters

[jdobbin]

How can one have a secret meeting with the media unless the media keeps it a secret?

I'm sure some Tories are wondering what the heck some party officials were doing asking some reporters to meetings if it was likely to end up in a scrum outside the meeting room for those not invited.

Someone spilled the beans. I'm sure the Tories will blame Liberal moles. heh

Edited April 21, 2008 by jdobbin

[jdobbin]

The Tories are meeting with the media! Damn them! It's a conspiracy!

Yes, only media they think will shape their story. And now we have the funny image of Tory spokesmen scurrying down the backstairs to avoid media they don't want to see.

Not quite the clever move they thought it was.

[jdobbin]

Secret meetings? With the media? You mean they offered semi-exclusives to media sources which they thought would give them a fair shake in their reporting? Shocking! Why, I don't think that's ever happened before!

Didn't quite work out the way they wanted, did it? It looked like amateur hour since it not only embarrassed the party but probably undermined the reporters who actually did attend the meetings.

[Shakeyhands]

Secret meetings? With the media? You mean they offered semi-exclusives to media sources which they thought would give them a fair shake in their reporting? Shocking! Why, I don't think that's ever happened before!

There should be a royal commission to look into this!

Headed, of course, by a very well-paid Liberal party bagman.

There's that paranoia again!

[Shakeyhands]

It's the elephant in the room the Left squeals in terror at even acknowledging, much less discussing.

Do you have any numbers to back up your elephant?

[Shakeyhands]

Clearly, you decided to use the word "insipid" because it sounded clever. Equally clearly, you don't know what the word means.

You're probably right. I was trying to express how tasteless your comment was, how much it makes you look like a classless redneck ass. I suppose I should have used asinine. My bad. Toddle off now.

[Wilber]

I'm sure some Tories are wondering what the heck some party officials were doing asking some reporters to meetings if it was likely to end up in a scrum outside the meeting room for those not invited.

Someone spilled the beans. I'm sure the Tories will blame Liberal moles. heh

I'll ask the question again. How can you keep a meeting with the media a secret unless the media decides to keep it a secret?

[Fortunata]

The question is: Why selected media? If you are going to have Con-friendly types only like CTV doesn't that just inevitably raise old issues like controlling the media, softball questions only, say what we say not what we do? The Soviets (as now does China) had this propaganda thing down to a fine art. Steve still has some learning to do by the looks of it.

[Argus]

Do you have any numbers to back up your elephant?

Nobody keeps numbers like that, or if they do they don't broadcast them. But where are the Liberals strongest? In big cities crammed with immigrants. More than half the population of Toronto is made up of foreign born people. Vancouver is almost as bad. And these are the major strongholds against the Tories.

Assuming the immigrant vote is unrelated is foolish.

It would be interesting to see a poll taken in Toronto of just those born in Canada.

[Argus]

You're probably right. I was trying to express how tasteless your comment was, how much it makes you look like a classless redneck ass. I suppose I should have used asinine. My bad. Toddle off now.

Yes, the Left always hates to hear anything which questions their precious multicultural presumptions. Of course, it depends on how one phrases things. If I were to say "Ethnic groups don't vote for the racist Tories!" you'd nod and smile wisely and probably agree. Ah, but I didn't phrase it that way, so you're aghast. "How dare you say that!? There ought to be a law! Lock him up!'

[Wilber]

The question is: Why selected media? If you are going to have Con-friendly types only like CTV doesn't that just inevitably raise old issues like controlling the media, softball questions only, say what we say not what we do? The Soviets (as now does China) had this propaganda thing down to a fine art. Steve still has some learning to do by the looks of it.

This is not the Soviet Union. The media cannot be controlled unless it allows itself to be. Are you are trying to say that Steve isn't as good at controlling the media as his predecessors?

[Alta4ever]

Citation? They arrived after the Elections Canada and the RCMP were already executing the search warrant. Stop lying, please.

Funny this is not what I heard from friends on the hill.

[jdobbin]

Funny this is not what I heard from friends on the hill.

And your friends are all Conservatives. Does this surprise you?

[jdobbin]

I'll ask the question again. How can you keep a meeting with the media a secret unless the media decides to keep it a secret?

Okay, let's call it private meetings then for select media. Somehow word got around and all the media that wasn't invited decided they wanted to be briefed at the same time.

Whatever you want to call it, it was a fiasco since those that did get briefed earlier looked like they were part of Tory manipulations. And the Tories that were caught in the camera glare were left sputtering that it was a private meeting and had to scurry down the stairs with guards keeping the media at bay.

Edited April 21, 2008 by jdobbin

[Fortunata]

This is not the Soviet Union. The media cannot be controlled unless it allows itself to be. Are you are trying to say that Steve isn't as good at controlling the media as his predecessors?

If media can't be controlled why invite Con-friendly news agencies only? It appears that CTV has bought into the Con message; they defend them at every turn. Steve isn't controlling media like his predecessors; he'd like to control media like the Soviets (do) did imv. Only thing is he thought Propaganda 101 would do the trick but some of the masses aren't as malleable as he thought.

[Who's Doing What?]

It's the elephant in the room the Left squeals in terror at even acknowledging, much less discussing.

IT's something in the room all right, but your sad excuse for posts are no elephant.

[Shakeyhands]

Nobody keeps numbers like that, or if they do they don't broadcast them. But where are the Liberals strongest? In big cities crammed with immigrants. More than half the population of Toronto is made up of foreign born people. Vancouver is almost as bad. And these are the major strongholds against the Tories.

Assuming the immigrant vote is unrelated is foolish.

It would be interesting to see a poll taken in Toronto of just those born in Canada.

Interesting, we should go strictly by numbers then 1 person = 1 vote for whoever. I like that. I wonder what the majority of Canadians would vote.

[mikedavid00]

Wow.... this gets my vote for most insipid comment of the month.

His statement was factual.

[Shakeyhands]

Yes, the Left always hates to hear anything which questions their precious multicultural presumptions. Of course, it depends on how one phrases things. If I were to say "Ethnic groups don't vote for the racist Tories!" you'd nod and smile wisely and probably agree. Ah, but I didn't phrase it that way, so you're aghast. "How dare you say that!? There ought to be a law! Lock him up!'

Argus, I never said ignorant people should be locked up. I never even said trailer trash types should be locked up. You're free to have you opinion, and I'm free to call it how I see it.

The sad part though, is how much of the CPC's base is made up of intolerant racists like you.

[Shakeyhands]

His statement was factual.

Well ther eyou go Argus... Double00 agrees with you. Are you embarrased yet?

[mikedavid00]

QUOTE(Argus @ Apr 20 2008, 09:23 AM)

And one could say Liberal votes are concentrated largely among immigrants - while real Canadians vote Tory.

A new low in posting, even for you.

His satement was factual.

Surveys show that majorityof immigrants simply do not identify themselves as Canadian. To a point even that their own children born here do not.

Any high immigrant area votes Liberal. That's just factual. And was about the ONLY ridings that voted Liberal last election.

So yes, that statement is certainly factual.

[mikedavid00]

Yes, only media they think will shape their story. And now we have the funny image of Tory spokesmen scurrying down the backstairs to avoid media they don't want to see.

Not quite the clever move they thought it was.

Again I sadly have to agree.

They must be half retarted to do some of the things they have been doing.

The CBC has hardcore turned on the Conservatives today after they got refused.. they even played the clip on the radio of the reporter getting rejected.. you should hear the newsbyte on the radio. And being the unprofessional organization they are, the CBC did nothing but smear them today and now have switched it to 'the Conservatives are stealing from tax payers' sort of thing.

The fact that they called select reporters, behind closed doors, and excludes the left leaning, state run, liberal funded CBC shows even further corruption.

Again, what they do in the third world.

[Wilber]

Okay, let's call it private meetings then for select media. Somehow word got around and all the media that wasn't invited decided they wanted to be briefed at the same time.

Whatever you want to call it, it was a fiasco since those that did get briefed earlier looked like they were part of Tory manipulations. And the Tories that were caught in the camera glare were left sputtering that it was a private meeting and had to scurry down the stairs with guards keeping the media at bay.

Geez dobbin, are you actually trying to tell me that the Liberals don't have media favourites they like to use when releasing their stuff? This may be clumsy and stupid but that's all it is.

[mikedavid00]

I'll ask the question again. How can you keep a meeting with the media a secret unless the media decides to keep it a secret?

Under this context, it's just not something that you do in the first world.

If you want to give our your cd's and media packages, you can courrier it over. They have media relation secretaries to handle these things.

You certainly don't take elites and have special closed door meatings for a select few media elites. That is just 1 more form of corruption.

Do the noble thing, step up on the podium, make a statement, and answer questions.

I mean the story was dying down.. i can't understand why they did this for. Now we have more headlines and someone running down the stairs with a suitcase filled with explosives..

We really are becoming Canastan..

[mikedavid00]

The question is: Why selected media? If you are going to have Con-friendly types only like CTV doesn't that just inevitably raise old issues like controlling the media, softball questions only, say what we say not what we do? The Soviets (as now does China) had this propaganda thing down to a fine art. Steve still has some learning to do by the looks of it.

I agree.. I wish people would realize the danger in their behaviour. Not just for their party, but for our country.