Multiculturism is a huge failure

[daniel]

...Try living in Toronto where you and I are in the minority, you may see things differently.

I do live in the big city and I agree with M. Dancer.

[Qwerty]

I honestly cannot wait until Islamists start blowing things up here in Canada.

I cannot wait to hear what excuses people will make for them.

I'm sure it will be hands across Canada for Islam...lol.

That's how weak we are.

Has the UK, Spain or USA blocked Islamists from entering their country? Nope they let more in...lol.

If that isn't self destructive I don't know what is.

The leaders of these Islamic countries call for the destruction of the western world and its democracy. Then we let them in so they can take us over. That doesn't bother anyone at all?

Edited April 16, 2008 by Qwerty

[Canadian Blue]

I honestly cannot wait until Islamists start blowing things up here in Canada.

No thanks, I don't wish for 9/11 to happen here in Canada.

I cannot wait to hear what excuses people will make for them.

I'm sure it will be hands across Canada for Islam...lol.

I believe in battling Islamo-fascism as well as those who are keen on making knee jerk reactions in the hope of spreading hatred.

Has the UK, Spain or USA blocked Islamists from entering their country? Nope they let more in...lol.

In the case of the US all of the 9/11 hijackers had student visas. As well their is no reason to block people from joining the country simply due to religion. We should attempt to differentiate between moderate Islam and radical Islam.

The leaders of these Islamic countries call for the destruction of the western world and its democracy. Then we let them in so they can take us over. That doesn't bother anyone at all?

Not sure, we haven't yet deported all of the Germans, Italians, and Japanese, for certain events that happened thousands of miles away in the early '30s to the mid '40s.

[Qwerty]

We should attempt to differentiate between moderate Islam and radical Islam.

Not sure, we haven't yet deported all of the Germans, Italians, and Japanese, for certain events that happened thousands of miles away in the early '30s to the mid '40s.

There is no difference. That is one of the great lies perpetrated by our media. Islam is Islam.

Yes but we did put them into camps while the war was on.

[Qwerty]

No thanks, I don't wish for 9/11 to happen here in Canada.

That's too bad, it's going to happen because of our indifference. The Americans showed us the way to deal with this scum but we pay no mind. They will attack us mark my words. Many will die, then the liberals will be crying for help but because of our depleted military no help will be coming from our own government. It will be sad.

[Canadian Blue]

There is no difference. That is one of the great lies perpetrated by our media. Islam is Islam.

By your logic their is no difference between those who bomb abortion clinics and moderate Christians. Is this correct?

Yes but we did put them into camps while the war was on.

My family was of German ancestry and we weren't put into camps. The Japanese were put into camps, and it isn't exactly one of our proudest moments in Canadian history. If anything it shows why your view is so completely twisted.

That's too bad, it's going to happen because of our indifference. The Americans showed us the way to deal with this scum but we pay no mind.

Which is? America hasn't become a fascist state where all Muslims have been sent to internment camps.

Many will die, then the liberals will be crying for help but because of our depleted military no help will be coming from our own government.

Our military is getting a boost in funding, and it actually did get some increases when Paul Martin was PM.

Edited April 16, 2008 by Canadian Blue

[guyser]

There is no difference. That is one of the great lies perpetrated by our media. Islam is Islam.

So, lets get this straight , cuz ya know, we need the truth. Apparently you speak it.

Any and all muslims are the same, whether moderate or radical. Is that right?

[Canadian Blue]

Say Qwerty, if Islam is Islam than why is it that Shiite and Sunni Muslims are killing one another more often that westerners. Is it perhaps because much like Christianity way back in the day people are really too stupid to accept the fact that religion should always be a personal matter.

You did know that Shiite and Sunni are two different sects in Islam correct, and that's why their is so much fighting in Iraq.

[Qwerty]

Say Qwerty, if Islam is Islam than why is it that Shiite and Sunni Muslims are killing one another more often that westerners. Is it perhaps because much like Christianity way back in the day people are really too stupid to accept the fact that religion should always be a personal matter.

You did know that Shiite and Sunni are two different sects in Islam correct, and that's why their is so much fighting in Iraq.

Yes I am aware. Don't think for a moment that I am not educated on such issues ok. I'm not some hick. I read all four major papers daily.

Iran = Shia

Iraq = Sunni

[Canadian Blue]

Yes I am aware. Don't think for a moment that I am not educated on such issues ok. I'm not some hick. I read all four major papers daily.

Iran = Shia

Iraq = Sunni

Actually Iraq has both Shiite and Sunni Muslims. Therefore they have conflict. Oddly enough the Kurdish Muslims haven't been causing as many problems which doesn't bode well for your belief that all Muslims are scum.

[Qwerty]

Actually Iraq has both Shiite and Sunni Muslims. Therefore they have conflict. Oddly enough the Kurdish Muslims haven't been causing as many problems which doesn't bode well for your belief that all Muslims are scum.

I don't need a lesson Blue so give it a rest.

No where did I say all muslims are scum. I would be banned if I did.

[Canadian Blue]

I don't need a lesson Blue so give it a rest.

Yes you do, especially if you think Islam is completely uniform. I think most Canadian's can differentiate Rahim Jaffer from Osama Bin Laden. Can you?

[Qwerty]

At any rate we are getting off topic.

MC is bad for Canada.

We are expected to welcome these people into our country and look after them yet we treat our own like second class people. We cannot afford to look after our elderly but we will fill our land with foreign people whose only interest is to draw on our resources. I think the true Canadian would like to have their country back. Ethnic groups don't integrate into the communities! They don't want to.

[noahbody]

Yes you do, especially if you think Islam is completely uniform. I think most Canadian's can differentiate Rahim Jaffer from Osama Bin Laden. Can you?

Yes. It's sometimes hard to tell if Osama is using an imposter. Jaffer, not so much.

[guyser]

MC is bad for Canada.

Master Choice? Better than PC , Presidents Choice.

We are expected to welcome these people into our country and look after them yet we treat our own like second class people.

We do? How?

We cannot afford to look after our elderly but we will fill our land with foreign people whose only interest is to draw on our resources. I think the true Canadian would like to have their country back. Ethnic groups don't integrate into the communities! They don't want to.

Hewers of wood and haulers of water? Thats what they are doing here? Dont recall many immigrants cutting timber in Chapleau when I lived there. Only the french , vive la french, kept me laughing many times.

A "true Canadian"....let me guess white people of British descent? We should nickname you leaflessII .

Ethnics didnt integrate immediately in the past either. Italians, Portuguese all had their own areas yet they are now found all over the place. The kids grew up and got their own identity.

And you live in Toronto.? All those immigrants everywhere .

[Qwerty]

Monday, December 17, 2007

If these Globe and Mail poll results are accurate they illustrate that elite opinion is out of touch with a majority of Canadians

Poll found at the Globe and Mail.

The question asked:

In your view, has Canada's multiculturalism policy proved successful?

Of the responses 37% responded in the affirmative and 63% in the negative.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/Pag...bhub=VoteResult

Does this prove my point?

Edited April 16, 2008 by Qwerty

[M.Dancer]

Monday, December 17, 2007

If these Globe and Mail poll results are accurate they illustrate that elite opinion is out of touch with a majority of Canadians

Poll found at the Globe and Mail.

The question asked:

In your view, has Canada's multiculturalism policy proved successful?

Of the responses 37% responded in the affirmative and 63% in the negative.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/Pag...bhub=VoteResult

Does this prove my point?

An online straw poll? Are you serious? Might as well go to the stormfront site and ask their opinion of Estonian opera...

[Qwerty]

In 13 neighbourhoods deemed "at-risk" in Toronto by United Way, more than half have significant Muslim populations, including Flemingdon Park, Regent Park, Etobicoke North and Jane-Finch. "Every year, we see more and more poor people coming to the mosque for help," said Omar Farouk, president of the International Muslims Organization, based in Etobicoke, which has opened a food bank and distributes food to shelters once a month. More than 200 people regularly access the food bank.

The four poorest of all ethno-racial groups, with more than 50 per cent of their members living below Statistics Canada's low-income cut-off, were Somalis, Afghans, Ethiopians and Bangladeshi populations – all from predominately Muslim countries. At least 30 per cent of Pakistanis and West Asians also qualified as poor, according to a study done by the Institute for Social Research at York University in 2006, which looked at the demographic and social profiles of ethno-racial groups in the city.

"Already we can see the formation of ghettos in some parts of the city," said Shakir, referring to neighbourhoods where overt race-based poverty is glaringly obvious

http://canadianimmigrationreform.blogspot.com/

Does this sound like a resounding success to you all?

[Qwerty]

Plot targeted Canadian flights, U.K. says

DOUG SAUNDERS

From Thursday's Globe and Mail

April 2, 2008 at 9:48 PM EDT

LONDON — Air Canada flights to Toronto and Montreal were targets of a well-advanced terrorist plot to blow up at least seven jetliners simultaneously over the Atlantic using bombs stored in drink bottles and assembled aboard the aircraft, according to claims by British prosecutors.

In August, 2006, a group of 19 British men were arrested in London with a bomb laboratory that had the tools to construct the components of liquid-chemical bombs that would be difficult for airport security to detect, stored in Lucozade drink containers with electronic detonators. Eight of those men, including the alleged ringleaders, are on trial this week.

Charges have been dropped against some of the 19, and others are still in the judicial system.

[...]

The Canadian dimension of the plot only became public yesterday, when a judge revealed to potential jurors in the trial of the eight men that Canadian flights were allegedly targeted.

[...]

Canadian officials confirmed yesterday that Air Canada flights were among the potential targets, which also included flights to the United States. They said that the plot had involved targeting a number of flights on the same day.

Still think Muslim immigration is a good thing? If these terrorists could get into Britain then they can get into Canada. And if they are "home grown" terrorists then all the more reason to ban Muslim immigration altogether. If Islam, even in an advanced, civilized, pluralistic environment like the United Kingdom is producing terrorists then what does it say about that religion? I'm sorry but it may very well be in the interests of Canadians and their safety that Muslim immigration to Canada be curtailed outright. Islam has failed to police itself and weed out its dangerous fanatics allowing these people, it seems, to operate without harassment within the Muslim community. That being the case then discriminating based on religion and country of origin is justified. Not all immigration is good immigration.

http://canadianimmigrationreform.blogspot....ly-like-us.html

[Canadian Blue]

In 13 neighbourhoods deemed "at-risk" in Toronto by United Way, more than half have significant Muslim populations, including Flemingdon Park, Regent Park, Etobicoke North and Jane-Finch. "Every year, we see more and more poor people coming to the mosque for help," said Omar Farouk, president of the International Muslims Organization, based in Etobicoke, which has opened a food bank and distributes food to shelters once a month. More than 200 people regularly access the food bank.

Most self defeating argument ever. Muslims hate Canada, look at all of those social services they provide.

[M.Dancer]

Most self defeating argument ever. Muslims hate Canada, look at all of those social services they provide.

Proof is a wonderful thing.

[Qwerty]

Most self defeating argument ever. Muslims hate Canada, look at all of those social services they provide.

They are doing nothing to improve the social fabric of this country are they?

50% living below the poverty line? They are not worth having in this country sponging off the rest our taxes.

They can go back to playing in the dirt as far as I'm concerned.

Edited April 16, 2008 by Qwerty

[Drea]

You are fighting against socialsim and liberalism so why the concern that immigrants are not "improving the social fabric"?

You are now being wishy washy... Either you want rightwing immigrants (religious, intolerant rule-sticklers) or you don't. Which is it? If you want more "regular" (read European) immigrants then you will have even MORE leftwingers (Europeans are more left leaning than Canadians for the most part).

[Qwerty]

You are fighting against socialsim and liberalism so why the concern that immigrants are not "improving the social fabric"?

You are now being wishy washy... Either you want rightwing immigrants (religious, intolerant rule-sticklers) or you don't. Which is it? If you want more "regular" (read European) immigrants then you will have even MORE leftwingers (Europeans are more left leaning than Canadians for the most part).

I want and Canada should want immigrants that will integrate and be grateful we are allowing them into this fine country and not want to change it. If Canada isn't to thier liking why don't they go someplace else instead of trying to change everything. Regardless of race, creed or colour.

That is changing in Europe now. Slowly the Left wing governments are being voted out now. They are starting to wake up from the dream. Especially in the Netherlands and Denmark.

Well not only that but we cannot exactly round up and deport the ones that are already here can we. So we have to change their minds and persuade them to integrate and embrace Canada.

Edited April 16, 2008 by Qwerty

[M.Dancer]

If Canada isn't to thier liking why don't they go someplace else instead of trying to change everything.

I assume then if Canada isn't to your liking you will go someplace else?