Superiour White People - ?

[M.Dancer]

Its not enforced because it is not a requirement.

It is only a requirement for citizenship. But IMO there should be a minimum level for immigrants. And by minimum, I mean bare minimum and they should be expected to acquire the language within a set period.

[Guest American Woman]

What's bigoted about enforcing Canada's requirement that any immigrant speak one of Canada's three official languages in order to come?

I've got to ask since I'm only aware of Canada having two official languages-- I know about English and French, but what's Canada's third official language?

[ScottSA]

I've got to ask since I'm only aware of Canada having two official languages-- I know about English and French, but what's Canada's third official language?

Chretienese

[Oleg Bach]

I've got to ask since I'm only aware of Canada having two official languages-- I know about English and French, but what's Canada's third official language?

Canada has one offical language and that is English - the French thing is just some age old pandering - why would we consider the language of a "nation with in a nation" the secondary or primary language of THEE Nation Canada? Quebec is not part of Canada - Quebec is Quebec..and it's time to embrace that fact.

[M.Dancer]

Notwithstanding fantasy, canada has two official languages.

[ScottSA]

Notwithstanding fantasy, canada has two official languages.

For now. After a few more blockades and demands for compensation, I suspect that grunts, howls, yips and smoke signals will also be included as a third.

[Rue]

No, they created the reserve system when they realized that the initial belief that Indians would naturally want to adopt a better way of life and become good Christians wasn't going to happen, and something had to be done to protect them from people who would take advantage of them. Genocide, you say? Well, if they really wanted to accomplish that they could hve long ago. Fact of the matter is that had the government not stepped in, there probably wouldn't be all that many Indians left. There certainly wouldn't be a Six Nations, that's for sure, the way the chiefs were selling of to fuel their addictions...

Spare us. Its bad enough you make negative generalizations about gays and Jews, now native people? Your ignorance as to Canadian history and the treatment of aboriginals and what the reserve system was used for should not surprise anyone.

As for your slur that "chiefs" were, "selling of (sic.... (looks like you blanked out at this point) to fuel their addictions" is pathetically racist. You know nothing about the aboriginal elders and their leader or even their names and what they believed or believe in but you just can't resist engaging in racist slurs that smeers all chiefs as dishonest addicts.

Once again you demonstrate to anyone who has the misfortune of reading your words you are a hateful person.

Edited November 26, 2007 by Rue

[Rue]

If anything, Six Nations should be the most successful of them all, given where it is situated; but like you say, there still seem to be some people who living in the past and are deluding others with their nonsense.

So now you are not just an expert on Christianity and sexual morality you are an expert on aboriginal needs and affairs. Your expertise is astonishing. As for suggesting others are deluded and nonsensical, hmmm, where have I seen this theme before. Tell me Keng any chance such descriptions could apply to you? Nah. Can't be possible.

Edited November 26, 2007 by Rue

[Rue]

In response to ScottUSa's isms;

"There are also those who believe that western civilization and all its attributes are superior to 6th century dark age pathologies, caste based mythologies, and stone age tribalism."

" I'm one of those too, but that involves a belief in cultural superiority, not racial superiority."

Of course your references to what you deem superior and inferior is something some of us laugh at. Some of us find people like you with notions of cultural superiority simply deluded by your own biases. Oh take for example alleged "Western" civilization. what do you refer to-the pursuit of materialism? The method of defining human value based on how much material we accumulate or the power we can impose on others? Oh but wait-we are modern and superior with our lifestyle-why because we have intoxicated the planet with poisons and pollutions and threaten ourselves with extinction from epidemics of cancer and heart disease directly related to our lifestyle. But wait there's more, we are superior because we do not respect the rules of nature and other life forms? Oh but wait there's more, our medical science is superior because we treat symptoms not root causes and because we think if we pop a pill we can ignore our health.

Yah superior. We are spiritual gems in the West. Beautiful people. At one with our spirits and the world around us. We share. We care. We live and let live and we certainly do not harm the planet. Nah not us superior Westerners. And don't forget our instant milk and aspirin.

"Whitening one's bloodline is a millenia old practice all over the globe.."

Geez silly me. I thought it was limited to teeth. Guess not. You know what, tomorrow I am going to find me a female albino and ask her if I can procreate with her.

[Rue]

For now. After a few more blockades and demands for compensation, I suspect that grunts, howls, yips and smoke signals will also be included as a third.

I am the first to defend you even when I disagree with your opinions and not assign you racist motives but when you lower yourself to resorting to such racist taunts I will be the first to call you out on it and call you ignorant and spiteful for doing such things.

Either debate the topic or shut the f..ck up with the taunts. Before you belittle what you think is someone's characteristics or expressions look at your own.

While you are at it explain why a culturally superior person such as yourself feels the need to engage in racial taunts.

Edited November 26, 2007 by Rue

[Guest American Woman]

Notwithstanding fantasy, canada has two official languages.

That's what I thought-- Thanks for confirming it.

[M.Dancer]

That's what I thought-- Thanks for confirming it.

Bienvenue....Et je parle both of them comme si comme sa

[Posit]

There is no such thing as "Canadian culture". It is a myth.

Culture is defined by it icons. The only cultural icons Canadians claim represent our culture were borrowed from another culture. That neither makes them ours, or creates a culture.

So ScottSA's superior culture is really superior nothing.

[M.Dancer]

There is no such thing as "Canadian culture". It is a myth.

Culture is defined by it icons.

I will politley suggest you are talking through your tall conical cap, sitting in a stool in the corner.

[GostHacked]

There is no such thing as "Canadian culture". It is a myth.

Culture is defined by it icons. The only cultural icons Canadians claim represent our culture were borrowed from another culture. That neither makes them ours, or creates a culture.

So ScottSA's superior culture is really superior nothing.

There are many Canadian Icons in our culture. Learn some Canadian History to find out. Then you will understand what kind of culture we in Canada have. It may not be the IN YOUR FACE EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEME culture you might be refering to.

Canada is just different, and we know that. Thing is, we really don't need to boast about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Canada

Alright, maybe it is what everyone of you here think what our culture is. Yes we have influences on our culture from outside sources in our past. This makes us a culture for all. Hard to describe, but to say we do not have culture that is our own is downright wrong. In that case the US has exported their culture all over the place.

[Posit]

There are many Canadian Icons in our culture. Learn some Canadian History to find out. Then you will understand what kind of culture we in Canada have. It may not be the IN YOUR FACE EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEME culture you might be refering to.

Canada is just different, and we know that. Thing is, we really don't need to boast about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Canada

Alright, maybe it is what everyone of you here think what our culture is. Yes we have influences on our culture from outside sources in our past. This makes us a culture for all. Hard to describe, but to say we do not have culture that is our own is downright wrong. In that case the US has exported their culture all over the place.

Oh look! Another Wikipedaidiot just entered the discussion!

There is nothing that distinctly defines Canadian culture that wasn't borrowed or stolen from another culture. That doesn't define a Canadian culture. It merely creates fake culture.

[M.Dancer]

Apparently Posit thinks that Canadian literature is borrowed.....well, posit is right....go to the library and everyone is borrowing it.

[M.Dancer]

Oh look! Another Wikipedaidiot just entered the discussion!

There is nothing that distinctly defines Canadian culture that wasn't borrowed or stolen from another culture. That doesn't define a Canadian culture. It merely creates fake culture.

By that sweeping error....there is nothing inherently original about anyone's culture. Even native culture has it's roots on the steppes of asia as practiced by the stone age of that day.

[Posit]

By that sweeping error....there is nothing inherently original about anyone's culture. Even native culture has it's roots on the steppes of asia as practiced by the stone age of that day.

That would be a good guess if native people originated in Asia. But since the Bering Strait theory has been totally debunked by the scientific community, you'll have to make another lame attempt at defending fake Canadian cultural myths. Culture is inherited and passed along with languages. You might be mistaking tradition which often changes with the times, but does not alter the culture.

[M.Dancer]

That would be a good guess if native people originated in Asia. But since the Bering Strait theory has been totally debunked by the scientific community,

I see you have cornered the tinfoil market~~All you have to do now if find some flake who says the DNA has bee altered....DNA that leads right to the steppes to the people who live there now.

[Posit]

I see you have cornered the tinfoil market~~All you have to do now if find some flake who says the DNA has bee altered....DNA that leads right to the steppes to the people who live there now.

YOU must have the market on tin foil hats. The most plausible theory now being postulated is that migration did take place across the Bering Strait during the ice bridge but it went from North America to Asia. Since the oldest humans indicate around 50,000 years ago and given that the ice bridge only existed 10-12,000 years ago there is a pretty good chance this is what happened.

Oh and BTW if you are depending on DNA to support your limited thinking maybe you should considered that 99.9% of all our DNA is shared with the fruit fly and the worm. (and I suppose I now know where YOU originated).

[Riverwind]

YOU must have the market on tin foil hats. The most plausible theory now being postulated is that migration did take place across the Bering Strait during the ice bridge but it went from North America to Asia. Since the oldest humans indicate around 50,000 years ago and given that the ice bridge only existed 10-12,000 years ago there is a pretty good chance this is what happened.

The current theories argue that the Americas were populated by successive waves of migration from Asia - you can quibble with the dates and pathways and there may have been some back migration but that does not negate the general conclusion. No serious scientist believes that humans evolved independently in the Americas - one way or another everyone's ancestors migrated from Africa. Edited November 26, 2007 by Riverwind

[ScottSA]

In response to ScottUSa's isms;

"There are also those who believe that western civilization and all its attributes are superior to 6th century dark age pathologies, caste based mythologies, and stone age tribalism."

" I'm one of those too, but that involves a belief in cultural superiority, not racial superiority."

Of course your references to what you deem superior and inferior is something some of us laugh at. Some of us find people like you with notions of cultural superiority simply deluded by your own biases. Oh take for example alleged "Western" civilization. what do you refer to-the pursuit of materialism? The method of defining human value based on how much material we accumulate or the power we can impose on others? Oh but wait-we are modern and superior with our lifestyle-why because we have intoxicated the planet with poisons and pollutions and threaten ourselves with extinction from epidemics of cancer and heart disease directly related to our lifestyle. But wait there's more, we are superior because we do not respect the rules of nature and other life forms? Oh but wait there's more, our medical science is superior because we treat symptoms not root causes and because we think if we pop a pill we can ignore our health.

Yah superior. We are spiritual gems in the West. Beautiful people. At one with our spirits and the world around us. We share. We care. We live and let live and we certainly do not harm the planet. Nah not us superior Westerners. And don't forget our instant milk and aspirin.

"Whitening one's bloodline is a millenia old practice all over the globe.."

Geez silly me. I thought it was limited to teeth. Guess not. You know what, tomorrow I am going to find me a female albino and ask her if I can procreate with her.

Spare me the hamfisted sarcasm. You live in a manner few people in the world live in, and it's a result of the surplus created, not by the happenstance of resource location, but the social system that allowed us to exploit it. Grow up.

[jbg]

Notwithstanding fantasy, canada has two official languages.

No, three. English, French and Dionian.

[jbg]

That would be a good guess if native people originated in Asia. But since the Bering Strait theory has been totally debunked by the scientific community, you'll have to make another lame attempt at defending fake Canadian cultural myths. Culture is inherited and passed along with languages. You might be mistaking tradition which often changes with the times, but does not alter the culture.

How do you think they arrived, immaculate conception?