Canada's Next Great Prime Minister

[capricorn]

I have worked to support myself since I was 16 years old, and I put myself through high school in this way. My university education has been paid for primarily through student loans, for which I pay 4% interest. With a student debt load of $35, 000, this will take me about 20-30 years to pay off, after graduation. But yet I have made the most of my university education.

Julienne, you sound very industrious and I sense you will do well in life. I just hope it will not take you so long to pay off your student loan as any debt is a drag. I wish you good luck.

Edited November 27, 2007 by capricorn

[Fain]

I'm of the opinion that i this was privately sponsored then it's all well and good. A good idea.

BUT if it involved public funds then it's wasted money

[no queenslave]

Which posts would those be? Also, I am in History as well Political Science, and I have also taken Philosophy, English, Sociology, Russian and Ancient Greek. Please explain how I am indoctrinated.

When did Canada go from a colony to a sovereign country and by what document?What changed as to the governing of Canada?

How could colonial political rulers continue as if nothing changed?

Have you ever been to tax court? If not why not?

What good is the charter of rights if it does not apply in tax court; your governments major way of controlling you?

If you cant not answer the above then your political science class was for what purpose ?

Which post are obvious to anyone with some form of reasoning.

Do you understand what this web site is about; and what is it's purpose?

Did they teach you about indoctrination ; or were you just a subject?.

Who is paying the interest on the loan you got?

How much of the university budget comes from government funding?

Edited November 27, 2007 by no queenslave

[no queenslave]

Your demonstration of your illegal act of invading my computer , is tipical of government control.

Who is funding this web has demonstrated what it's purpose is.

[mikedavid00]

First of all, I don’t understand how you think that the only way to contribute to Canada is through paying taxes.

How can you not undersatand that? Canada's systems and services run off my tax dollars.

Societal and Cultural issues are a seperate thing. Canada is borders, an army, a flag, and services like road paving and garbage pickup. The country functions and runs through the monies it collects from the tax payers who work in the private sector.

There are many different ways to contribute to society.

In your eyes of course you want to believe this.

Societal issues are of your personal interest and should not involve my tax dollars to fund these things.

Engaging in politics is one of them. You cannot tell me that the politicians who run this country have not affected your life.

Politicians have effected my life for the worse. Namely our immigration policy.

Julien, I don't even have to ask you what your stance on immigration is because you are like our politicians and are against the grain of the people who actually fund this country.

But before you even formed an opinion, what research have you done on the effects of immigration into Canada? None? That's right. You know why? Because you don't care the effects that immigration costs on your pocket book becuase you do not pay taxes.

That student loan and school. Guess where that money came from? Guess who's subsidizing your education. I am. I am funding you to be able to go to that school, take part in that competition, and even post on this website as this webiste has been created and is being subsidized indirectly by public funds.

I also find it curious that you say that I should not be able to vote until I have paid taxes for five years, but you then complain that you have had half your money taken away from you through taxation. Furthermore, I think that upon your next hospital visit, when you are not handed a bill, you might reflect more on where your taxation money goes.

Our medical care system is not functioning becuase the gov't is managing it, and because people are using an insurance system that has never paid into it.

I think that you should only be able to vote if over a 5 year period you paid taxes from the private sector 60% of that time. Those are the people who contribute. Not students, not the owner of this website, not the CBC and employees, certainly not academia, but us the private tax payers.

How much have you paid into the system with private funds? Ah yes. You are a benefactor of the system. You are using the system. You are on the other end of the system so you feel it's a normal and healthy life to enjoy our tax dollars.

Your suggestion that people like me have things handed to them on a silver platter is completely flawed. First of all, you know nothing about me.

I know that you have not paid taxes from private revenue in the last 5 years. My household gets

$4000 a month ultimately taken away from us in taxes. This is ALL private revenue from private companies.

Our household's income goes into other peoples pockets. That's where most of the taxes in Canada goes. It goes to fund surgeries to people who have NEVER paid into our health insurance, it goes into academia to subsidize websites like this, and it goes to all the hords and hords of gov't unions and make work projects.

Understand, myself, and people like me are at the top of the totam pole.

We fund everything that goes on in this country. Not your gov't superstars that have never worked a day in their life. Not David Suzuki, not your fellow students, not your professors, not your friends, not your hospital workers, but *ME* and the people like me.

My university education has been paid for primarily through student loans, for which I pay 4% interest. With a student debt load of $35, 000, this will take me about 20-30 years to pay off, after graduation. But yet I have made the most of my university education.

I myself am also still paying off my student loans and have been for the last 6 years and am almost done. I am in the real world now. School was a collection of idealisms and fantasies and I do not believe our gov't should have anything at all to do wtih higher learning becuase it produces too many people who do not contribute to our economy and marketplace.

The tax payer subsidized my education. But you know what? I am reaching the point where I have paid MORE then my share back into the system, thus, I should not have the right to say what goes on or not.

You are not the only one who has had to work.

It's not about hard work or not. It's about paying into our system which is the engine that keeps our country going and what makes Canada the country it is.

Your racial equality and social injustices mean nothing to a person who is working underpaid at the private sector and funding the whole system. Those topics are for idealogues who waste the tax payers money. It's for political pander. It's not substantial, it's not real to the people who turn the engine that make our country operate.

Instead of blaming this hardship on “people like me”, why not come up with constructive ideas as to how Canada should deal with social stratification. Take your own advice, and do something for Canada.

People do not want solutions. People want to pander politically and discuss problems with no answer.

For instance, our gun problems in Toronto is the fault of a poor immigration policy. That is a factual statement. Everything else on the matter is discussion and idealism with no solutions.

But we aren't allowed to talk about solutions, we are only allowed to talk the talk that will get votes from this group of people.. who.. guess what.. suprise suprise, DON"T PAY TAXES!

Julienne, I really recommend you do this: Graduate from school. Go out on your own and try to find work in the private sector. When you work for a private company and are underpaid starting out and paying off your loans and struggling to the point you can't even afford a condo, then in 5 years when your 30 years old come back and shoot a video of what needs to changing and what is important to you.

[no queenslave]

Which posts would those be? Also, I am in History as well Political Science, and I have also taken Philosophy, English, Sociology, Russian and Ancient Greek. Please explain how I am indoctrinated.

With all this learning what documents were presented to dispute Walter. F. Kuhl factual document ? A copy can be had at http://detaxcanada.org/kuhl.htm

If you did not deal with his factual findings it is because your professor has no factual evidince to disprove his findings, and his only job is to indoctrinate you into believing something else

When do you intend to go to federal tax court and see for yourself the charter is meaningless when it comes to the government controlling you through the tax system?.

Federal personal income tax is a form of slavery-control practiced by a corrupt dictatorship government.

Edited November 27, 2007 by no queenslave

[no queenslave]

time to wake up julienne , you have a lot of work to do .

[Julienne]

I'm of the opinion that i this was privately sponsored then it's all well and good. A good idea.

BUT if it involved public funds then it's wasted money

It's both publicly and privately sponsored. It is hosted by CBC, but it no different than any other TV show, and might even cost less than most CBC shows. The prize money comes from Stronach and thus is private.

[no queenslave]

It's both publicly and privately sponsored. It is hosted by CBC, but it no different than any other TV show, and might even cost less than most CBC shows. The prize money comes from Stronach and thus is private.

By your silence on Walter f Kuhl and R Rogers Smith you have demonstrated your education was nothing but indoctrination. The program is just a way of finding the best indoctrinated ; so they can promote and get elected someone who hasn't the capability of thinking for themselves; so they can continue with the fraud of Canada having a democratic government.

A democratic government gets it's powers from a constitution written and ratified by sovereign people. The people of Canada have never given any politician any of their powers. The government of Canada have just assumed power in 1931; just like any other dictatorship.

[no queenslave]

By your silence on Walter f Kuhl and R Rogers Smith you have demonstrated your education was nothing but indoctrination. The program is just a way of finding the best indoctrinated ; so they can promote and get elected someone who hasn't the capability of thinking for themselves; so they can continue with the fraud of Canada having a democratic government.

A democratic government gets it's powers from a constitution written and ratified by sovereign people. The people of Canada have never given any politician any of their powers. The government of Canada have just assumed power in 1931; just like any other dictatorship.

Http://www.detaxcanada.org/kuhl.htm

Or is it you only want to be a dictator julienne?

Edited December 1, 2007 by no queenslave

[no queenslave]

Well done ; just like M.P's when you write them a letter; thanks for your response. You started the post and then what happened?

http://www.detaxcanada.org/kuhl.htm

[Wild Bill]

Well done ; just like M.P's when you write them a letter; thanks for your response. You started the post and then what happened?

http://www.detaxcanada.org/kuhl.htm

You get more flies with honey!

I'm surprised she stayed with you as long as she did. A young girl just starting out who took on a project that few of her peer group would have attempted and you pounced on her with both feet!

You may have tainted her experience with boards such as this one for life. Go back and read your own posts. Try to put yourself in her shoes (if you can!). How eager would you expect her to be to stick around?

[no queenslave]

You get more flies with honey!

I'm surprised she stayed with you as long as she did. A young girl just starting out who took on a project that few of her peer group would have attempted and you pounced on her with both feet!

You may have tainted her experience with boards such as this one for life. Go back and read your own posts. Try to put yourself in her shoes (if you can!). How eager would you expect her to be to stick around?

I thought she was a young lady. I am not looking for flies. I was in her shoes once and regularly questioned my teachers . If all teaching is just about repeating what a teacher said; then just read a book.

education is about training the mind to do more than repeat what a teacher tells you; .

http://www.detaxcanada.org/kuhl.htp

]lacks law dictionary

"

DEMOCRACY. That form of government in which the SOVEREIGN power resides in and is exercised by the whole body of FREE citizens directly or indirectly through a system of representation as distinguished from a monarchy, aristocracy, or oligarchy".

Canadians were given their freedom in 1931 and have never ratified a constitution.

Edited December 3, 2007 by no queenslave

[Wild Bill]

I thought she was a young lady. I am not looking for flies. I was in her shoes once and regularly questioned my teachers . If all teaching is just about repeating what a teacher said; then just read a book.

education is about training the mind to do more than repeat what a teacher tells you; .

Nothing wrong with questioning teachers, but in effect you were attempting to take on the role of teacher yourself, to convert her to your point of view.

If so, you might consider that teaching is more than simple preaching and rude screeching. The tone of your posts is quite aggressive. Nobody here is forced to sit in your class. And people can easily vote with their feet!

If you want people to play with you, it helps to be nice. If you don't care that no one will play, then it is not logical to be surprised that no one will.

[Pliny]

Julienne, how does increasing federal representation allow for increased regional representation? Does the addition of another politician mean increased representation for the people?

In my view, a federal government can only provide equal regional representation on a very narrow range of issues that do affect every region. Increasing the powers of municipalities and provinces or their representation is not a federalist concept. It is anti-federalist. If you are empowering representation of the people it isn't done centrally. The concerns of one region may not be the concerns of another region at all. Why waste federal time debating or discussing regional issues and how does the addition of one or two representatives at the federal level represent all the people better regarding the demographic interests of a particular region?

Your views are definitely statist and would be classed liberal in todays Canadian political scene.

The greatest Prime Minister would not, in my opinion, be a strong federalist.

[no queenslave]

Nothing wrong with questioning teachers, but in effect you were attempting to take on the role of teacher yourself, to convert her to your point of view.

If so, you might consider that teaching is more than simple preaching and rude screeching. The tone of your posts is quite aggressive. Nobody here is forced to sit in your class. And people can easily vote with their feet!

If you want people to play with you, it helps to be nice. If you don't care that no one will play, then it is not logical to be surprised that no one will.

Get a life. You trying to promote government propaganda; by trying to discredit me ; insted of trying to post some credible information to prove Walter F Kuhl or R Rogers Smith are wrong.

They knew more then you ever will about the Canadian political system ; and they produced the documentation to prove their point of view. All you got is rude screeching and preaching; based on government propaganda ; demonstrating you have been indoctrinated to believe the government lies.

Prove me wrong by telling everyone Blacks law dictionary is not a credible dictionary; and tell us which law dictionary you use..

Quote "The Queen pays me to post that..... I am not going to take any position contrary to the one I'm paid to take " by jbg

you seem to have the same attitude.

Edited December 3, 2007 by no queenslave

[M.Dancer]

I'm reading the Clouds by the greek guy......

I recommend Queen read it too

[no queenslave]

not hard to tell who are government paid posters.

http://www.detaxcanada.org/kuhl.htm

[Wild Bill]

not hard to tell who are government paid posters.

http://www.detaxcanada.org/kuhl.htm

I wish!

I could use the money!

[no queenslave]

I wish!

I could use the money!

If you are in need of money ; then get a job.

If you think you are funny ; think again.

I see you did not disagree with Black's law dictionary as to what a what a democracy is.

How long did it take the government to indoctrinate you with their partisan dogmas; belief more or less formally stated and held to be authoritative?

[Wild Bill]

If you are in need of money ; then get a job.

If you think you are funny ; think again.

I see you did not disagree with Black's law dictionary as to what a what a democracy is.

How long did it take the government to indoctrinate you with their partisan dogmas; belief more or less formally stated and held to be authoritative?

How long did it take you to become so obsessive?

I have not read Black's law dictionary for a very simple reason - I don't feel it it worth my time! What's more, your style of argument is such that I am even LESS inclined to spend the time in such research!

We all have priorities in life and only so much energy and resources available. Frankly, even if every single point of yours I have seen on this board was absolutely true and accurate I still would not spend any time on your cause for myself.

Why? Because you argue like a zealot! You have an obvious obsessive fixation with your subject. We've all met zealots in our time and rarely are they right in the accuracy of their beliefs or the importance to us all that they attach to them.

Consider, even when I start to think that maybe there's something to your arguments what do you do? You call someone a paid agent of an illegal government!

If you want someone to pay attention to you then you should be nice. That's just simple salesmanship. You insult your potential converts. No wonder you don't seem to be having much success.

Me, I give up on you. It's not likely I will read your words or answer you again. Not only do you keep crying wolf but even if there's really a wolf at the door I'd likely choose the wolf over you as better company!

[no queenslave]

How long did it take you to become so obsessive?

I have not read Black's law dictionary for a very simple reason - I don't feel it it worth my time! What's more, your style of argument is such that I am even LESS inclined to spend the time in such research!

We all have priorities in life and only so much energy and resources available. Frankly, even if every single point of yours I have seen on this board was absolutely true and accurate I still would not spend any time on your cause for myself.

Why? Because you argue like a zealot! You have an obvious obsessive fixation with your subject. We've all met zealots in our time and rarely are they right in the accuracy of their beliefs or the importance to us all that they attach to them.

Consider, even when I start to think that maybe there's something to your arguments what do you do? You call someone a paid agent of an illegal government!

If you want someone to pay attention to you then you should be nice. That's just simple salesmanship. You insult your potential converts. No wonder you don't seem to be having h much success.

Me, I give up on you. It's not likely I will read your words or answer you again. Not only do you keep crying wolf but even if there's really a wolf at the door I'd likely choose the wolf over you as better company!

If It is not worth your time to know what you post is propaganda , then why complaine at all .

You are the zealot who when provided with legal documents ; say it is not worth your time ; but have the time to complain and call me names insted of providing any documents to prove I am wrong. How does being nice to a dictator get you a democracy?

You post just like jbg

QUOTE "the Queen pays me to post.... I am not going to take any position contrary to the one I'm paid to take" by jbg

Try and be nice and post the legal definition of a DEMOCRACY; or is that contrary to the one you are paid to post?.

http://www.detaxcanada.org/kuhl.htm

[no queenslave]

looks like no one wants to be the next great fake prime minister.

[Julienne]

Julienne, how does increasing federal representation allow for increased regional representation? Does the addition of another politician mean increased representation for the people?

In my view, a federal government can only provide equal regional representation on a very narrow range of issues that do affect every region. Increasing the powers of municipalities and provinces or their representation is not a federalist concept. It is anti-federalist. If you are empowering representation of the people it isn't done centrally. The concerns of one region may not be the concerns of another region at all. Why waste federal time debating or discussing regional issues and how does the addition of one or two representatives at the federal level represent all the people better regarding the demographic interests of a particular region?

Your views are definitely statist and would be classed liberal in todays Canadian political scene.

The greatest Prime Minister would not, in my opinion, be a strong federalist.

Through my platform the cities would be granted increased regional representation directly as they would have greater autonomy over their taxation rights, etc. As for the Aboriginal peoples of Canada, you are right that this sort of representation would be more on a federal level. But it would increase representation for a traditionally underrepresented portion of Canada's population.

I understand that in a traditional sense to be a strong federalist means to believe in a strong centralization of power. Which is the opposite of what I am arguing. My idea was that Canadian federalism needs to be improved. Federalism does not have to mean centralization of power. This is equivocation. The idea of federalism is to grant regional representation, so what I was proposing was to strengthen this system by increasing representation.

Also, I am curious as to how you think debating regional issues is a waste of time

[leonardcohen]

Wow, that's some enlightened political thought there. I';m sure you helped these kids out alot.

Sadly, if one of these kids parroted exactly what you said, they would probably garner 20% of the vote.

Who exactly do you like? I mean somebody viable. It can't be that

you just hate Harper? Naw,it couldn't be that.