Assuming federal personal income tax is ultra vires

[bk59]

IT IS NOT A COURT CASE THAT DETERMINED YOU OWED MONEY

Federal personal income tax court is a joke because as bk59 states " IT IS NOT A COURT THAT DETERMINED YOU OWED MONEY" .IT was predetermined before the case even started; and you were guilty before any evidence was presented. And your constitution and fair trial are just B.S. in practice..

Why have you started multiple topics on the same issue? Would this be so that you can continue your rants once others start to prove you wrong? I'll give you the quick summary again: Constitution gives the federal government the authority to legislate income taxes. Government legislates income taxes. Courts hold that this is legitimate. End of story.

Pay up and stop freeloading.

Or move out of the country. Either way, your semi-coherent ranting is getting tiresome.

[no queenslave]

Why have you started multiple topics on the same issue? Would this be so that you can continue your rants once others start to prove you wrong? I'll give you the quick summary again: Constitution gives the federal government the authority to legislate income taxes. Government legislates income taxes. Courts hold that this is legitimate. End of story.

Pay up and stop freeloading.

Or move out of the country. Either way, your semi-coherent ranting is getting tiresome.

You have posted the same thing over and over ; and now are complaining.

How much do you want me to pay?

"IT IS NOT A COURT CASE THAT DETERMINED YOU OWED MONEY " by bk59

[runningdog]

I think you're freeloading too.

I didn't think much of you before, but now I won't be thinking of you at all.

I, however, do not think you are freeloading. We already pay alot of money in indirect tax. If the government needs more, it should come from corporate profits, not from the fruits of ones' own labour.

[jbg]

You have posted the same thing over and over ; and now are complaining.

How much do you want me to pay?

"IT IS NOT A COURT CASE THAT DETERMINED YOU OWED MONEY " by bk59

Income taxes, at least in my country, are "self-assessed" by the taxpayer. If the taxpayer does not provide a good faith "self-assessment" the government can use its own "levy and lien" powers fairly implied, I believe, in either the 16th, 17th or 18th Amendments (I don't have them memorized by number, but it's one of those, the other of those being direct EEE voting for US Senate and woman's suffrage).

[Topaz]

I ,as many Canadians assumed, that everyone paid personal income tax to Ottawa , this I found not true. According to wikepedia, Quebec does not pay any to Ottawa and Alberta, Ontario and Quebec doesn't pay corporate tax to Ottawa.

[old_bold&cold]

NoQueenslave

I first off must point out to you that I was the one who said that tax court loses most of the cases it handles. That does not mean all. I also have been one of the ones where the RCMP made illegal requests to Rev Can to do its best to ruin my life etc. In the end they got nothing and I still have my lifestyle but there are many things and accomodations that had to be made, and it is a long and twisted story that I am not willing to get into.

I will say though that my legal problems come from hacking and pircy in the computers and communications field. If I wished to and I am saying straight out that I do not wish to. But if I did I would have you and your real name address and all your passwords etc in less then a couple hours of work. everything on your computer would be mirrored on my own. That is just what some one like me can do. The RCMP have this same ability times a 1000. They have all the back door codes for ever program ever made here in North America and most of others around the world. Your saying that you have never paid taxes or even filled out a tax form for 20 years, probably will get you 20 years for being stupid enough for saying so in an open forum. There is no anominity here or else where, when it comes to finding out who and what you are and where you are doing it from. Be careful of what you do and say. It will haunt you one day in the near future. Pretty much everything posted in forums like this are reviewed by the law enforcement and other agencies and when people brag about things here, it really can be a problem. Take it from some one who knows, and has still 2 months of probation and owes still $10,000.00 on a fine of $20,000.00. There is no secure system or encryption method that can not be broken if and when the need comes to it. Learn from what I have said and save yourself the trouble. If not then you will one day be warning another stupid poster of just what can happen.

[no queenslave]

NoQueenslave

I first off must point out to you that I was the one who said that tax court loses most of the cases it handles. That does not mean all. I also have been one of the ones where the RCMP made illegal requests to Rev Can to do its best to ruin my life etc. In the end they got nothing and I still have my lifestyle but there are many things and accomodations that had to be made, and it is a long and twisted story that I am not willing to get into.

I will say though that my legal problems come from hacking and pircy in the computers and communications field. If I wished to and I am saying straight out that I do not wish to. But if I did I would have you and your real name address and all your passwords etc in less then a couple hours of work. everything on your computer would be mirrored on my own. That is just what some one like me can do. The RCMP have this same ability times a 1000. They have all the back door codes for ever program ever made here in North America and most of others around the world. Your saying that you have never paid taxes or even filled out a tax form for 20 years, probably will get you 20 years for being stupid enough for saying so in an open forum. There is no anominity here or else where, when it comes to finding out who and what you are and where you are doing it from. Be careful of what you do and say. It will haunt you one day in the near future. Pretty much everything posted in forums like this are reviewed by the law enforcement and other agencies and when people brag about things here, it really can be a problem. Take it from some one who knows, and has still 2 months of probation and owes still $10,000.00 on a fine of $20,000.00. There is no secure system or encryption method that can not be broken if and when the need comes to it. Learn from what I have said and save yourself the trouble. If not then you will one day be warning another stupid poster of just what can happen.

What you have done is nothing in comparison to what i am doing; I am not doing anything illegal.If you are so good post "The Sorensen Letters " by Gary p. Sorenson - cuonsel for the Minister of National Revenue 1984 which is in direct testimony to what you post.

You are not telling me anything i did not know for many years;I know government posters follow every post i make and they know who i am. I have had my house raided twice. When you find someone elses name on your computer as a permitted user who do you think it is?

One day In 1/2 hour of going on line i had 31 people trying to access my computer.

Who do you think the namecallers are who try and discredit every post i make ?

Some american lawyer working for who?

The statute of Westminster gave freedom and sovereignty to the people of the provinces; and if you do not agree then you must accept Canada is still a British colony.

also The Queen vs Cyrus J . MMoulton ltd.dtc1976 at pages6244/5 " under no legal obligation to comply the demand notice . How about M.N.R. vs. Bradley J Robitaille case dec 1983?

The Sorensen letter (2) 6. Thousands of taxpayers each and every year are prosecuted under the act. 80 to 90 percent result in a miscarriage of justice on the following grounds.

(A) lack of authority- 244 (1) of the act.

( want of jurisdiction

© NO VIOLATION OF ANY PROVISION OF THIS ACT.

(d) CONVICTED IN THE ABSSENCE OF ANY EVIDENCE< IN ANYMANNER< WHATSOEVER OF A VIOLATION OF ANY PROVISIONS OF THE ACE.

was one of thous accommodations to post such things as above?

" IS NOT A COURT CASE THAT DETERMINED YOU OWED MONEY" by bk59

[jbg]

I ,as many Canadians assumed, that everyone paid personal income tax to Ottawa , this I found not true. According to wikepedia, Quebec does not pay any to Ottawa and Alberta, Ontario and Quebec doesn't pay corporate tax to Ottawa.

My understanding is that in those cases the provinces collect the taxes and send the Federal portion on whereas for the others it's the reverse process. I believe it's a collection, not payment issue.

[no queenslave]

My understanding is that in those cases the provinces collect the taxes and send the Federal portion on whereas for the others it's the reverse process. I believe it's a collection, not payment issue.

SO much for wikepedia

so much for the justice system.

" IT IS NOT A COURT CASE THAT DETERMINED YOU OWED MONEY" quote bk 59

[Smallc]

SO much for wikepedia

so much for the justice system.

" IT IS NOT A COURT CASE THAT DETERMINED YOU OWED MONEY" quote bk 59

So much for your last thread of sanity.

[msj]

My understanding is that in those cases the provinces collect the taxes and send the Federal portion on whereas for the others it's the reverse process. I believe it's a collection, not payment issue.

Well, since I have actually filed corporate tax returns for Alberta corporations I can say this:

When corporate tax is owed the company has to write two cheques - one to the "Receiver General" which pays the federal portion of corporate taxes and then another cheque to the "Minister of Finance" which goes, along with another quasi separate tax return, to Alberta.

Since I deal with mostly BC based small corporations I don't have to do this often.

BC allows the CRA to administer its income taxes so when a BC company is paying corporate tax only one cheque needs to be written and one return filed.

[jbg]

When corporate tax is owed the company has to write two cheques - one to the "Receiver General" which pays the federal portion of corporate taxes and then another cheque to the "Minister of Finance" which goes, along with another quasi separate tax return, to Alberta.

That was my understanding too. I cannot legally express an opinion about out-of-New York law. Also, I know next to nothing about Canada.