sideshow Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 The Canadian Police Association holds exactly ZERO standing in representing the RCMP when it comes to the labour/management, employer/employee, master/slave relationship between the RCMP brass and the members. Its kind of like joining an athletic association really. The Supreme Court of Canada ruled that the members of the RCMP are exempt from the Canada Labour Code for the purpose of collective bargaining.....which as a side note, so are other certain individuals/industries. As for the death penalty. At the very least, there should be the death penalty for those convicted of killing a Police Officer. Police announce themselves upon arrival. There can be no mistaking who they are when they appear at your door, car, or whatever. When you attack/kill a Police Officer, you are attacking the state.....just like any terrorist. And for attacking the state, killing a man/woman in cold blood (because there is no self defence in killing an officer) then you should be put to death. Period. This would be a step in the right direction. It may not stop the drunken idiot from shooting his girlfriend over a fight over the remote control, but it will make the gang banger/dealer/miscreant from pointing his piece at the Police. POLICE: YOU HATE THEM UNTIL YOU NEED THEM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 The Canadian Police Association holds exactly ZERO standing in representing the RCMP when it comes to the labour/management, employer/employee, master/slave relationship between the RCMP brass and the members. Its kind of like joining an athletic association really. The Supreme Court of Canada ruled that the members of the RCMP are exempt from the Canada Labour Code for the purpose of collective bargaining.....which as a side note, so are other certain individuals/industries. As for the death penalty. At the very least, there should be the death penalty for those convicted of killing a Police Officer. Police announce themselves upon arrival. There can be no mistaking who they are when they appear at your door, car, or whatever. When you attack/kill a Police Officer, you are attacking the state.....just like any terrorist. And for attacking the state, killing a man/woman in cold blood (because there is no self defence in killing an officer) then you should be put to death. Period. This would be a step in the right direction. It may not stop the drunken idiot from shooting his girlfriend over a fight over the remote control, but it will make the gang banger/dealer/miscreant from pointing his piece at the Police. POLICE: YOU HATE THEM UNTIL YOU NEED THEM. I never hate the police. That said, I don't think that we should be killing people to get revenge. Its really simple. The state does not put people to death, so attacking the stated is not punishable by death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideshow Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 Its not about revenge. It's about right and wrong. And killing a Police Officer should be grounds to have your own life taken. Period. Because if you point your gun at an officer and he shoots and kills you, they are justified. So why would the state not be justified in killing you if you have killed that officer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 (edited) Its not about revenge. It's about right and wrong. And killing a Police Officer should be grounds to have your own life taken. Period.Because if you point your gun at an officer and he shoots and kills you, they are justified. So why would the state not be justified in killing you if you have killed that officer? Because its after the fact. We have no more right to determine if they live or die than they did the officer. The fact that they did wrong does not give us the right. We've already had the DP debate in another thread. I don't want to start it here. Edited November 15, 2007 by Smallc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideshow Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 The fact remains that the state does have the right. They just dont exercise it. They kill murderers in other countries that they travel to, but refuse to enforce proper moral law here in Canada because of all the bleeding hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 (edited) The fact remains that the state does have the right. They just dont exercise it. They kill murderers in other countries that they travel to, but refuse to enforce proper moral law here in Canada because of all the bleeding hearts. We do not have the right to put people to death per a law passed by the federal parliament. I said I'm not arguing about it, its already been done. Edited November 15, 2007 by Smallc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideshow Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 Sure they do. Its just in the timing. At the moment or later.....its all in the details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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