why Alberta hasn't seperated

[Oleg Bach]

It is no joke.

A country can not go from being a colony to a sovereign province -country and nothing changes. The same colonial rulers with the same rules.

Federal personal income tax is a form of slavery-control by a corrupt dictatorship government.

If I control your finances you can have any government you want. Nothwithstanding my right to take your money comes first.

Alberta is a seperate and sovereign province or state - It has stronger ties with America than it does with the rest of Canada. We really don't seem to understand what Alberta really is or what Quebec really is - much like we really don't understand the concept of what America is..America of instance and most forget- a collection of nations - or states..or countries..The United Nations of The Americas...The USA is a co-operative collective of nations states...as for provinces - I really don't think that anyone has bothered to define the word province or provincal in a long while..what is a province and what is the purpose of the title - Alberta is a state...Quebec is a state - the rest of us are pitiful provincials living in some stale colonial past we just can't seem to escape.

[no queenslave]

Alberta is a seperate and sovereign province or state - It has stronger ties with America than it does with the rest of Canada. We really don't seem to understand what Alberta really is or what Quebec really is - much like we really don't understand the concept of what America is..America of instance and most forget- a collection of nations - or states..or countries..The United Nations of The Americas...The USA is a co-operative collective of nations states...as for provinces - I really don't think that anyone has bothered to define the word province or provincal in a long while..what is a province and what is the purpose of the title - Alberta is a state...Quebec is a state - the rest of us are pitiful provincials living in some stale colonial past we just can't seem to escape.

And when will the politicians of the province admit that fact?

[jawapunk]

TAKE THE RED PILL!!!!!!!!

If you can find me a system of government that can govern over million of people peacably and that does not include some form of taxation then you shoudl push for it.

I am fairly sure that our system far outweighs the cons of an actual dictatorship.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictatorship

I think you need to read before you throw big words around that you have no conceptual knowledge of. However, based on your writing and punctuational skills, or lack thereof, it is not hard to see why this may be a problem for you.

Dictatorships imply an autocracy, meaning the rule of one man/woman. I suggested earlier I thought you may mean that Canada is ruled by an oligarchy, which is definitely open for debate.

Edited November 27, 2007 by jawapunk

[no queenslave]

TAKE THE RED PILL!!!!!!!!

If you can find me a system of government that can govern over million of people peacably and that does not include some form of taxation then you shoudl push for it.

I am fairly sure that our system far outweighs the cons of an actual dictatorship.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictatorship

I think you need to read before you throw big words around that you have no conceptual knowledge of. However, based on your writing and punctuational skills, or lack thereof, it is not hard to see why this may be a problem for you.

Dictatorships imply an autocracy, meaning the rule of one man/woman. I suggested earlier I thought you may mean that Canada is ruled by an oligarchy, which is definitely open for debate.

http://wikipedia.org/wiki/income_tax#count...onal_income_tax

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QUEEN

If you do away with the queen then you may have a democracy. Nothing is legal in Canada withouth her.

why are you pushing red pills?

Canadas government is the same as Saddam's government was , only ours is run in the name of the queen; not the head of the political party.

Edited November 28, 2007 by no queenslave

[jbg]

QUEEN

If you do away with the queen then you may have a democracy. Nothing is legal in Canada withouth her. Canadas government is the same as Saddam's government was , only ours is run in the name of the queen; not the head of the political party.

The Queen is the name in which legislation is passed. Since 1689 she hasn't had a choice in whether or not to grant assent to legislation passed by both houses of Parliament, whether in London, Ottawa, Wellington/Christchurch or Canberra. Or for that matter Bridgetown or Kingston....

But you know that. These arguments are patently in bad faith, as you know as well as anyone that the "action" is in Parliament.

why are you pushing red pills?

Very solid argument. Good work.

[jawapunk]

Queen, almost all of the countries on the list with no personal taxation are tiny. The others are oil wealthy and derive no direct personal income tax but they still tax their citizens and gain revenue through other streams.

The only one I couldn't figure out is Somalia who is neither rich nor small, but I am guessing they do not have personal income tax because the government has no way to enforce itself enough to collect those taxes. They have too many warlords etc...

By showing this list you also kind of make a point against yourself, because many of these governments are authoritarian and undemocratic. Saudi Arabia, Oman, Bahrain, Brunei, Kuwait, Monaco, Qatar, The U.A.E. all have kings, shahs, sultans, emirs and Princes. No one votes for them, nor do they share power.

[no queenslave]

The Queen is the name in which legislation is passed. Since 1689 she hasn't had a choice in whether or not to grant assent to legislation passed by both houses of Parliament, whether in London, Ottawa, Wellington/Christchurch or Canberra. Or for that matter Bridgetown or Kingston....

But you know that. These arguments are patently in bad faith, as you know as well as anyone that the "action" is in Parliament.

Very solid argument. Good work.

And Saddam's government action was in ??your imagination?

Time to quit living in the past , using a figerhead as an excuse for a dictatorship.

As demonstrated by both Iraq and Afghanistan a democracy is created by first freeing the people from a dictatorship; or colonial rule. Then the sovereign free people agree on a constitution they want as to what powers they want the government to have . Then they hold a referendum vote of all the people to ratify the constitution. And then the elected members are sworn to obey the constitution ; not sume old brod.

[no queenslave]

Queen, almost all of the countries on the list with no personal taxation are tiny. The others are oil wealthy and derive no direct personal income tax but they still tax their citizens and gain revenue through other streams.

The only one I couldn't figure out is Somalia who is neither rich nor small, but I am guessing they do not have personal income tax because the government has no way to enforce itself enough to collect those taxes. They have too many warlords etc...

By showing this list you also kind of make a point against yourself, because many of these governments are authoritarian and undemocratic. Saudi Arabia, Oman, Bahrain, Brunei, Kuwait, Monaco, Qatar, The U.A.E. all have kings, shahs, sultans, emirs and Princes. No one votes for them, nor do they share power.

and that is what you got; now you think you asked for something else.

Edited November 29, 2007 by no queenslave

[jbg]

And Saddam's government action was in ??your imagination?

Time to quit living in the past , using a figerhead as an excuse for a dictatorship.

As demonstrated by both Iraq and Afghanistan a democracy is created by first freeing the people from a dictatorship; or colonial rule. Then the sovereign free people agree on a constitution they want as to what powers they want the government to have . Then they hold a referendum vote of all the people to ratify the constitution. And then the elected members are sworn to obey the constitution ; not sume old brod.

How come every response to your posts from me and others is met with a post that is unresponsive, vitriolic or some mixture of the two?

[M.Dancer]

The main reason Alberta hasn't separated is it is on the same plate as the rest of Canada. Now BC is another matter and who knows what subduction and geological activity will do in one million years.

[jawapunk]

and that is what you got; now you think you asked for something else.

Well actually I did ask for something else. You have been trying to prove that only corrupt governments tax their citizens and you then provide a list of countries that have no personal income tax. It is true I said show me a list of countries that do not have taxation and can exert control over millions. Most of the countries on the list are tiny, all of them still tax their citizens and most of them are systems of government where people havae absolutely nosay over decisions, not even a vote. They do not even have representative government like here in Canada.

So this list is crap, it actually works against your argument.

[jbg]

The main reason Alberta hasn't separated is it is on the same plate as the rest of Canada. Now BC is another matter and who knows what subduction and geological activity will do in one million years.

On that note, I once saw a t-shirt saying "reunite Gondwanaland".¹

¹Go here (link) For more on Gondwanaland, also called GONDWANA.

[no queenslave]

How come every response to your posts from me and others is met with a post that is unresponsive, vitriolic or some mixture of the two?

You dreaming again?

If only you wouldn't be so insistant that you think you have all the propaganda down pat and that is all that matters.

A democracy is formed by sovereign people writing and ratifying a constitution by a referendum of all the eligible voters ; not by greedy dictatorship politicians creating a constitution as to their liking and forcing it on the people as was done in Canada.

When did the people of Canada legaly become free and sovereign-1931, by the Statute of westminster. And your indoctrination is?

[jbg]

s.

A democracy is formed by sovereign people writing and ratifying a constitution by a referendum of all the eligible voters ;

And who wrote the British constitution? When was it ratified?

[no queenslave]

And who wrote the British constitution? When was it ratified?

someone like you. the last time you voted.

does that make you right againe? Dream on.

Edited December 1, 2007 by no queenslave

[jbg]

someone like you. the last time you voted.

does that make you right againe? Dream on.

Can you post the British Constitution?

[no queenslave]

Can you post the British Constitution?

no; can you? You seem to post all other government propaganda.

QUEEN

More like a constipation than a constitution. time she went.

Edited December 1, 2007 by no queenslave