Jack Layton's NDP

[mikedavid00]

Talking about the NDP..

When did this party become an 'international politics, nato, UN, global warming, pro-terrorism ' party?

Wasn't this party meant to represent the interests of low wage, low paid hard working Canadians for the Interest of Canadians?

Isn't this supposed to be a grass roots union party interested in the protection of Canadians and against labor saturation of our job market via immigration?

What happened to this party?

[guyser]

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Wasn't this party meant to represent the interests of low wage, low paid hard working Canadians for the Interest of Canadians?

Isn't this supposed to be a grass roots union party interested in the protection of Canadians and against labor saturation of our job market via immigration?

What happened to this party?

Never thought of auto workers et al (IOW all unions) as low wage low pay types.

[maldon_road]

What happened to this party?

It was taken over by academic "intellectuals".

[Canadian Blue]

pro-terrorism ' party

Yeah, ever since becoming pro-terrorism they've really been going downhill. Oddly enough I can't find that on their website.

Isn't this supposed to be a grass roots union party interested in the protection of Canadians and against labor saturation of our job market via immigration?

Why does everything always lead to immigration?

[godzilla]

Why does everything always lead to immigration?

because hatred for cultural, racial and religious diversity is the cornerstone of the reform party voting block (aka conservative base). of course, conservative politicians are not financed by these yahoos... they are financed by culturally, racially and religiously diverse rich people who only want more concentration of wealth.

[CLRV]

In answer to your rhetorical question when did the NDP become an international party: the second they became a federal party.

Whether you like it or not (and I like it that you don't like it), they are a federal party. So they actually have positions on federal issues.

The only "pro-terrorism" parties, however, are the backwards-thinking militarist parties that think keeping our armed forces occupying other countries will somehow stop driving new recruits into the arms of the terrorists.

Oh yeah, and the people that want to treat immigrants like crap. No better way to motivate homegrown terror cells than that.

[shavluk]

I think he means well but is trying to please everyone including and especially himself.

Self delusion is a weakness here maybe?

Follow through is also something maybe lacking unless supervised?

Likes the lime light and attention and traveling

As I said a basic will to be doing good just lacking the confidence to appoint the proper experts to help grow his network instead of his usual slow sure feel your way approach to growth , needs the first example for any real breakthroughs.

Too thin skinned for compromise.

What makes the ndp all that different from any of the other parties ? Really.

Who is seen as analyzing the data correctly and then taking the risks for Canadians?

Are ATM's truly more important than the drug war and people dying on street corners?

It takes risks to truly lead and a whole lot of passion and they all say they will lead but rarely do they really make it seem like they do that.

Yes the party has drifted from its roots just because of trying to please without taking any actual real risk.

This after saying they will be and want to be in fact the party of the people.

Vote GREEN because we will lead with a team and have everyone talking already about one of our main issues and wearing GREEN ties yet we don't even hold a seat yet!

Edited October 12, 2007 by shavluk

[mikedavid00]

Vote GREEN because we will lead with a team and have everyone talking already about one of main issues and wearing GREEN ties yet we don't even hold a seat yet!

Hmmm.. you know what.

The Green Party (in Ontario) came accross as the new grass roots party (no pun).

Maybe that's why they got the most attention in this election. You should have heard him talk about faith based schooling on the radio. It was great. He was the only one who didn't dance around the issue and said that it was wrong and racist.

He also seems to be a likeable guy.

But their far too idealist based party and would lead us to ruins.

[shavluk]

Thank you for that!!

I can tell you that I am no hypocrite not by a long shot.

Everyone in the GREENS is from some other party and all tired of the bullshit of party politics.

Myself personally look at it as my bi-annual shavluk funded tax payer/citizen public service message and am comforted by the fact that after 40,000 deaths a year just as they were inpaled on their own steering colums and because of that after 59 years since we invented cars ,,sanity was then heard and we got seat belts.

I only need to put in 42 more years .

I am Canadian but a human rights activist first.

[mikedavid00]

I am Canadian but a human rights activist first.

I prefer Canadians first, everything else second

[M.Dancer]

Yeah, ever since becoming pro-terrorism they've really been going downhill.

Look under Hezbollah

[ScottSA]

I am Canadian but a human rights activist first.

It ought to impress your Canadian constituents when they hear their concerns are not uppermost in your mind. Novel way of politicking, I must say. Cutting edge.

[shavluk]

Unlike you all of my voters are human hahhaha

and obviously not greed possessed mutated DNA like some others roaming free spreading poisons over their poor self esteem

Some from those must be who you must hang with as we are for sure not from your group.

[old_bold&cold]

The NDP and even Layton are at least coherrent in what they do and say. I do not agree with their views, but I can respect their right to have them. The Green on the other hand are just way too out there in their thinking and yes, with there candidates. I can not even give a moments serious consideration with a party that has members the likes of Shavluk and his sensless ranting on the drugs and the rest.

At least the NDP make sure their party is on one page mostly, and where there are differences they are straight forward and presented in a easily understood fashion. They do not use the shock and confuse positions that we have seen here. This can be seen by the question put to Layton in that thread by Shavluk. Does anyone think he will answer that? Or for that matter does anyone think Greg will put it forward to him? If that is the type of candidates the green allow in their party, I do not see them ever by anything but fringe at best. Do not get me wrong, I am probably one of the more outspoken types and yes I at times go well beyond what others say is good taste, but I do know and recognize limits, and will admit when I have exceeded them. Most of what I have heard here for the Green Party, has made me more then ever want to be sure they never get any power at all.

[shavluk]

That and 25 cents and I can almost make a phone call. ha

40% will never vote for us.

You are obviously of that group.

Thanks for your comments anyway and we do note the seemingly fearful acknowledgement of our work indeed paying off at least with in your group.

Layton has already probably read my question,,,,

that's all I was after

so that when what I personally warned him of ,,happens

AND !! he then starts standing back up for Canadians ,,,

all Canadians not just the ones who use ATM's

We will both be happy.

Dont say one thing for our votes than another against us for someone elses vote