M.Dancer Posted October 11, 2007 Report Posted October 11, 2007 The Polls are closed and I predict a much closer race than the pollster have led us to believe...... currently the liberals lead 9 to 8 Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
capricorn Posted October 11, 2007 Report Posted October 11, 2007 The Polls are closed and I predict a much closer race than the pollster have led us to believe...... MD I hope you're right. I heard on CTV that the Greens may take a seat but the riding was not identified. That would make big news. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
M.Dancer Posted October 11, 2007 Author Report Posted October 11, 2007 MD I hope you're right.I heard on CTV that the Greens may take a seat but the riding was not identified. That would make big news. 20 to 16 I doubt the green voters made it out in force as hemp tends to get mangy when wet Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted October 11, 2007 Author Report Posted October 11, 2007 20 liberals 19 PC 1 NDP 1 Other Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
capricorn Posted October 11, 2007 Report Posted October 11, 2007 CTV jumps ahead of the pack predicting a McGuinty win. Well, duh!!! Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
August1991 Posted October 11, 2007 Report Posted October 11, 2007 (edited) Some comments about this election. 1. Ontario (population 9 million) has 107 MPPs. Newfoundland (ppulation 700,000) has 47 MLAs. Why? 2. Dalton McGuinty went to a religious school financed by the State. So, how could he object to State-financing of religious schools? 3. Dalton McGuinty promised not to raise taxes and then he raised taxes. If he wins, does that mean he can ignore anything he's ever said? 4. If John Tory loses, does this mean that voters prefer the "real" Liberal instead of the wannabe Liberal? 5. Why is it still called the Progressive Conservative Party? 6. I suspect that state-financing of religious schools was in fact a quiet, polite way of saying that voters didn't like John Tory's smugness. 7. I agree with Preston Manning. We hand over students to a monolithic union organization to educate our kids. Is that good? Ontario Conservative Leader John Tory's proposal to expand public funding of religious schools raises some important educational issues that need to be wisely resolved in all provinces if we are to provide Canadian children with the best education in the world.... In the words of Harvard economist Caroline Hoxby: “It appears that public schools are induced to raise achievement when they are faced with competition. … This is not only good news for students; it should be welcome news to those who think that public schools have much good potential.” Must the provision of greater freedom of choice in education lead to a plethora of offbeat educational cul-de-sacs operated by insular cultural or religious groups? Not if the province requires all educational institutions – public and private – to be accredited in accordance with clearly established educational standards and to be held publicly accountable for performance and results. G & MThis election has been a missed chance to debate serious matters. I suspect McGuinty didn't want a serious debate at all. I guess it'll be a Liberal majority. Edited October 11, 2007 by August1991 Quote
capricorn Posted October 11, 2007 Report Posted October 11, 2007 4. If John Tory loses, does this mean that voters prefer the "real" Liberal instead of the wannabe Liberal? If the PC party loses really badly (as it appears will happen) and Tory doesn't win his seat, I hope he steps down for the good of the party. This issue of faith based funding was his undoing and it will dog him forever. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
M.Dancer Posted October 11, 2007 Author Report Posted October 11, 2007 Morris Dancer predicts a liberal landslide......... So far..... Libs.....54 PC......27 NDP....8 Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
August1991 Posted October 11, 2007 Report Posted October 11, 2007 8. Who is M. Dancer and how can his scintillating analysis change so radically in minutes? (Is M. Dancer the nom-de-plume of a well-known TV analyst?) The Polls are closed and I predict a much closer race than the pollster have led us to believe......currently the liberals lead 9 to 8 Morris Dancer predicts a liberal landslide......... Quote
jdobbin Posted October 11, 2007 Report Posted October 11, 2007 (edited) Morris Dancer predicts a liberal landslide.........So far..... Libs.....54 PC......27 NDP....8 What were the numbers prior to tonight's vote? Edited October 11, 2007 by jdobbin Quote
M.Dancer Posted October 11, 2007 Author Report Posted October 11, 2007 8. Who is M. Dancer and how can his scintillating analysis change so radically in minutes? (Is M. Dancer the nom-de-plume of a well-known TV analyst?) No..... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
capricorn Posted October 11, 2007 Report Posted October 11, 2007 8. Who is M. Dancer and how can his scintillating analysis change so radically in minutes? (Is M. Dancer the nom-de-plume of a well-known TV analyst?) I must admit he had my hopes up for one nano second. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
capricorn Posted October 11, 2007 Report Posted October 11, 2007 (edited) What were the numbers prior to tonight's vote? Liberal Party: popular vote 46.45 - total seats 72 Progressive Conservative Party: popular vote 34.64 - total seats 24 New Democratic Party: popular vote 14.70 - total seats 7 Other popular vote 4.21 http://www.mapleleafweb.com/features/2007-...eneral-election Those were the 2003 election results. The linked site gives the numbers at dissolution. Edited October 11, 2007 by capricorn Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
August1991 Posted October 11, 2007 Report Posted October 11, 2007 I'm watching this on the CBC-TV feed on the Internet. Gawd, Ontario politics are so boring. The talking heads should package their conversation and sell it late at night as a DVD for insomniacs. "Over to you Dana for your analysis of the close race in Parry River-Nippiwhats where the Liberals have increased their lead by 140 votes. Is this more evidence of Ontario's preference for Liberal values?" Quote
GreenWhiteandPink Posted October 11, 2007 Report Posted October 11, 2007 Some comments about this election.1. Ontario (population 9 million) has 107 MPPs. Newfoundland (ppulation 700,000) has 47 MLAs. Why? Actually there are 505,000 people in NL and there are 48 MHA's. There were 52 up untill the mid 90'. It should be really be 30 max. Ontario's Electorial map is the same as the Federal Ontario Electoral map, by Ontario own choice. Quote
jdobbin Posted October 11, 2007 Report Posted October 11, 2007 Liberal Party: popular vote 46.45 - total seats 72Progressive Conservative Party: popular vote 34.64 - total seats 24 New Democratic Party: popular vote 14.70 - total seats 7 Other popular vote 4.21 http://www.mapleleafweb.com/features/2007-...eneral-election Those were the 2003 election results. The linked site gives the numbers at dissolution. Ah. I was wondering what they were talking about about with the 72. I was more aware of the number at dissolution. Quote
capricorn Posted October 11, 2007 Report Posted October 11, 2007 I'm watching this on the CBC-TV feed on the Internet. That was your first mistake. :lol: Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
August1991 Posted October 11, 2007 Report Posted October 11, 2007 Actually there are 505,000 people in NL and there are 48 MHA's. There were 52 up untill the mid 90'. It should be really be 30 max.I stand corrected. House of Assembly, and on the numbers. Quote
M.Dancer Posted October 11, 2007 Author Report Posted October 11, 2007 AND THE BIG NEWS The referendum to count wingnut votes and give them special status is soundly beaten! Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
mikedavid00 Posted October 11, 2007 Report Posted October 11, 2007 AND THE BIG NEWSThe referendum to count wingnut votes and give them special status is soundly beaten! I'm very happy with the way this has turned out. The PC only won the most whitest of the riding demographics. It's litterally that simple. Quote ---- Charles Anthony banned me for 30 days on April 28 for 'obnoxious libel' when I suggested Jack Layton took part in illegal activities in a message parlor. Claiming a politician took part in illegal activity is not rightful cause for banning and is what is discussed here almost daily in one capacity or another. This was really a brownshirt style censorship from a moderator on mapleleafweb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1oGB-BKdZg---
mikedavid00 Posted October 11, 2007 Report Posted October 11, 2007 Tory lost his own seat. Wow... Quote ---- Charles Anthony banned me for 30 days on April 28 for 'obnoxious libel' when I suggested Jack Layton took part in illegal activities in a message parlor. Claiming a politician took part in illegal activity is not rightful cause for banning and is what is discussed here almost daily in one capacity or another. This was really a brownshirt style censorship from a moderator on mapleleafweb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1oGB-BKdZg---
M.Dancer Posted October 11, 2007 Author Report Posted October 11, 2007 I'm very happy with the way this has turned out. The PC only won the most whitest of the riding demographics. It's litterally that simple. So why did they get clobbered in St Paul's? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Higgly Posted October 11, 2007 Report Posted October 11, 2007 Tory lost his own seat. Wow... Tory made two big mistakes. The faith-based school issue, and giving up a safe seat to run against Kathleen Wynne. Wynne has been representing people in the riding for years - first in municipal politics, and then provincial. Tory should have stayed in Orangeville. Leadership does matter, I suppose. Quote "We have seen the enemy and he is us!". Pogo (Walt Kelly).
geoffrey Posted October 11, 2007 Report Posted October 11, 2007 Leadership does matter, I suppose. Honesty, intelligence and looking beyond tax hikes to find innovative solutions, on the other hand, are obviously not required. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
mikedavid00 Posted October 11, 2007 Report Posted October 11, 2007 Honesty, intelligence and looking beyond tax hikes to find innovative solutions, on the other hand, are obviously not required. How could the PC people behind the scenes 'let' this happen though? I just don't get it. Well I do.. it's no different than any other workplace. Tory became the boss and wanted things done his way or no way. I saw the PC party president on TV today.. he was awfully young looking. And they had a lot of financing also... Wow I feel so sorry for Tory. Well I don't feel too bad for him becuase reminds me of those stuborn bosses I always hated. Quote ---- Charles Anthony banned me for 30 days on April 28 for 'obnoxious libel' when I suggested Jack Layton took part in illegal activities in a message parlor. Claiming a politician took part in illegal activity is not rightful cause for banning and is what is discussed here almost daily in one capacity or another. This was really a brownshirt style censorship from a moderator on mapleleafweb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1oGB-BKdZg---
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