Bortron

Well I don't think compulsory martial arts training and universal gun ownership would in any way be beneficial to Canadian society, but I like guns and martial arts so i give the idea a thumbs up. Seriously though 2 years military service should be compulsory for all citizens like it is in less complacent societies; after all history has shown when you can't protect what is yours someone stronger will take it away, isn't that right Native Americans?

You grossly misunderstand me my friend. I have no guilt. It is what it is. I just don't like all the whining and and spinning of the truth. The Israeli's are an occupying force if they would just admit it I wouldn't have such a problem with them. I can admit that white people like myself came here and destroyed another people and took there homes because they were too weak to defend themselves; I'm cool with it. The problem for Israel is they didn't destroy their enemy like we did and their enemy will be stronger then them one day; its all strategically very unsound. I highly doubt any Palestinian patriot rotting in Israeli prisons would agree about the "free" nature of Israel. I don't support either side, to me they are both unreasonable religious fanatics. I've done all the research that can be done. You should try to understand what a person is saying before you make critical comments. I am a moderate pragmatist, not a left-wing bleeding heart. Also your comment implies that if they returned to their country of origin they will be treated like second class citizens; I highly doubt this would happen, after all the Holocaust guilt of the West still has some tread left I'm sure they can milk it for a few more decades. Alas they wont leave until it's too late anyways.

I was hoping the lack of "rights" would be implied by the absurdity of my statements. Of course your correct no one has natural rights but the Jewish people wouldn't agree with that. They believe they do have a right and that's what they use to justify their actions and that is why they are wrong.

It's been up for debate since the end of World War 2 and it will continue to be up for debate for as long as it exists, we're debating it right now. I've read books on the topic, such as The Case for Israel (2003) by Alan Dershowitz; their arguments are unconvincing. Do you suggest that I have a right to my ancestral lands in Scotland? Or better yet the Annapolis valley in Nova Scotia? I am of Acadian descent and my people were forcibly deported from their lands only 255 years ago. Do I have the right to go there with my bulldozer and remove peoples homes? The Jews that were there before 1948 have every right to stay I am only referring to the vast majority that came from Europe that are phenotypically white Europeans, and their descendants. Then again perhaps they have the right of the conqueror as we do here in Canada and the United States. If you except the right of the conqueror then they have every right to exist and they have a right to exterminate the Palestinians much like the British did to the Natives here in Nova Scotia and other parts of North America, we even had a bounty on their scalpes. But they wont leave your 100% correct but just because they wont do something doesn't mean it wouldn't be a solution, and from where I'm standing it's the only peaceful solution. The other options all end in violence and death for millions, and if we live long enough I'm sure we'll get to witness it. Like I said it's a sad hopeless situation.

I am not a racist; I date women of varying ethnicities, and I have Jewish friends, but what I'm going to say here will probably be considered anti-semitic, and therefore racist or bigoted by most supporters of Israel. That is one of their tactics; they have shamelessly exploited the Holocaust since 1948 so now any criticism of Israel makes you a bigot and therefore it is unwise for our politicians to ever publicly condemn Israels actions with anything more than toothless token statements about dismantling settlements. The demise of Israel is inevitable. They have created the instruments of there own demise through this misguided attempt to reestablish their ancient homeland. It may take 20 more years or 50 or 100 but Israel will cease to exist some day, and no matter how long it takes the Palestinians will hate them for much longer then that. We are complacent in Canada; the idea of foreign armies bulldozing are homes is hard for us to imagine but that's exactly what Israel has done to these people. They need to stop playing the victim and take responsibility for their crimes. The one and only solution to this problem is for them to return to their countries of origin or to move to whatever countries will have them. The Palestinians population is increasing much faster then the Israeli's; in fact I believe the Israeli population is actually decreasing. This isn't a sustainable situation. My ancestors immigrated from France and Scotland, I find it hard to imagine returning to these countries a couple thousand years latter to lay claim to my ancestral lands; the idea is absurd and so is Israel. Unfortunately this will not end peacefully because both sides are religiously polarized and history has shown us over and over again what people are capable of in the name of religion. It's a sad hopeless situation.