G Huxley

Yet they both dropped out of the debate that would have included May so it is clear that they are using anti-democratic hijinx to sideline her. And as I have already stated in this thread Democracy isn't decided in advance through induction based on polls. Democracy gives the public a fair even choice of options to choose from and they decide. You know our ancestors fought for Democracy and you guys are still fighting against it in Canada.

She told the truth. Something that isn't heard too often in politics.

I said earlier in the thread that I didn't watch the debate due to it's anti-democratic nature.

What were the facts?

If he runs six years of deficits, he has a proven track record of running deficits. Why would you trust someone with a proven record of failure?

And 6 years of Harper running deficits sure proves it.

Of course not, as I said previously only a very small percentage of Canadians actually read party platforms.

Of course you are free to be anti-democratic in a democracy as Harper and Mulcair have shown in their anti-democratic exclusionary authortiarianism.

That's not true. Probably less than a percentage of those who vote green nationally actually read party platforms sadly enough.

"Private entities are holding them, and they can invite whoever they want. They invite who they think is relevant to the viewers." That's exactly what is wrong here. We are seeing the piratization of democracy by vested corporate interests and the main parties going along with it.

The line should be obvious. If a party can field a certain number of candidates nationally I'd say 20 then they should be able to participate in the national election debates at least if it was a real democracy. The majority of Canadians in polls have also said that May should be allowed to participate in the debates, so if it was a democracy and not a charade of one she would be.

In my province May is polling 10-16% which is massive, and some polls have suggested the Greens may take every riding on Vancouver Island where I live. And as I already said Democracy can't be decided by induction in advance. You can't base democracy on the polls for an election, but on the result of a fair election after a fair process. If no one is ever given a fair and level chance then no one else will have a chance. That's logic. That's the difference between authoritarianism and democracy.

Yes, why not? Everyone deserves a fair voice. If they can field enough candidates that shows that they were able to get at least a thousand people to sign in numerous ridings, that means that they are already representing a portion of the electorate which in a democracy deserves at least a chance at getting elected. And thankfully we have a parliamentary system and not a winner takes all system like they have in the States so it's not just All about the future prime minister, in fact it's really not, as the next government will likely be a coalition.

It's really not a difference because Democracy can't be based on induction. You can't say 'I think such and such will win so only they have a chance.' You have to give everyone a fair chance and let the voter decide, not decide for them in advance by not giving them a choice. That is how authoritarianism works, not democracy.

He may have to do that testifying on Duffy.

Because the leader of a party with MPs in the house of commons and the most respected parliamentarian in Canada was denied a place in the debate. That is a loss for Democracy, which requires the people to be represented and have diversity, choice and a fair voice and a win for authoritarians in Canada.

It doesn't matter. You either believe in Democracy or you don't. Democracy lost with that debate. As for the Greens they now have multiple MPs in the House of Commons. There is not even a shred of justification for denying their presence in the debates. "She doesn't belong there." Polls have shown that May is the most respected parliamentarian in Canada and won an award for this. To suggest the most respected parliamentarian in Canada and head of a party shouldn't be in the debates is absurd.

Didn't watch the debate. Both the host of the debate, Harper and Mulcair demonstrated their anti-democratic nature by not including May. I don't bother watching anti-democratic authoritarians debate.

No tinfoil involved the man is an intellectual giant: Steve Coll (born October 8, 1958) is an American journalist, author, and business executive. He is currently the dean of Columbia Journalism School. He is a former president and CEO of New America Foundation, and has been a staff writer for The New Yorker. He is the recipient of two Pulitzer Prize Awards, two Overseas Press Club Awards, a PEN American Center John Kenneth Galbraith Award, an Arthur Ross Book Award, a Livingston Award, a Robert F. Kennedy Journalism Award, a Financial Times and Goldman Sachs Business Book of the Year Award, and the Lionel Gelber Prize. In 2012, he was elected to the Pulitzer Prize Board. Awards: 1990: Pulitzer Prize for Explanatory Reporting (co-winner with David A. Vise)[1] 1991: Livingston Award for International Reporting for "Crisis and Change in South Asia", The Washington Post (winner)[11] 2000: Robert F. Kennedy Journalism Award for "Peace Without Justice: A Journey to the Wounded Heart of Africa", The Washington Post (1st Prize: International Print) 2000: Ed Cunningham Award for "Peace Without Justice: A Journey to the Wounded Heart of Africa", The Washington Post[12] 2004: Lionel Gelber Prize for Ghost Wars: The Secret History of the CIA, Afghanistan, and Bin Laden, from the Soviet Invasion to September 10, 2001 (winner) 2004: Cornelius Ryan Award for Ghost Wars: The Secret History of the CIA, Afghanistan, and Bin Laden, from the Soviet Invasion to September 10, 2001 (winner)[13] 2005: Pulitzer Prize for General Non-Fiction for Ghost Wars: The Secret History of the CIA, Afghanistan, and Bin Laden, from the Soviet Invasion to September 10, 2001 (winner)[14] 2005: Arthur Ross Book Award for Ghost Wars: The Secret History of the CIA, Afghanistan, and Bin Laden, from the Soviet Invasion to September 10, 2001 (winner) 2008: National Book Critics Circle Award for The Bin Ladens: An Arabian Family in the American Century (finalist)[15] 2009: PEN/John Kenneth Galbraith Award for The Bin Ladens: An Arabian Family in the American Century (winner) 2012: Financial Times and Goldman Sachs Business Book of the Year Award for Private Empire (winner)[16] 2012: National Book Critics Circle Award for Private Empire (finalist)[17] As for you, you're someone putting your hands over your ears and humming so you don't have to learn anything. Ignorance is Strength right?

"Conservative on crime: do the crime, do the time" Harper's former spokesman del Maestro is doing some time right now. Meanwhile conservatives Duffy, Brazeau, the Ford brothers and others are trying to weasel their way out of doing time. Well at least Rob did some time in rehab.

Prostitution isn't a crime, and neither is doctor-assisted suicide. On the other hand must we go again on the list of conservatives undergoing trial or recently convicted of crimes? And conservative economics encourages prostitution. Prostitution is much less common in more egalitarian societies like Denmark than in societies where inequality is greater, which I suspect is a pretty obvious Freudian reason why conservatives are so obsessed with gathering person wealth and keeping things inequal so that they can pay for prostitutes. It would also explain why Ottawa has the highest percentage of Ashley Madison accounts of any other city.

"Why should I go live in Japan?" Because you want a country with a hundred million people in it. Japan is the place for you. "Why don't you go live in the US?" Too many reasons to count, but the fact that 300+ million people live in the US is a good reason not to.

Questioned on what he thought about crime: "Conservative "i would like to do this so i should be able to" Socialist " i cant do it therefore neither should you be able to"

John why don't you go live in Japan then? Also did you know the Japanese like having a large population so much that they have perhaps the lowest birth rate of any country in the world?

"So being fiscally responsible makes one a monster. Interesting." As has already been mentioned the conservatives are fiscally reckless e.g. the billion dollars budgeted for two days of security.