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On 11/28/2020 at 8:52 AM, kactus said:
In regards to vaccine development and its approval, 50% efficacy would be good enough, nevertheless I am not convinced with this trial, they need to repeat it to prove the claim.
15 hours ago, OftenWrong said:Well I hope you know some actual details of the vaccine trial, before you make a claim like this.
It is not may claim...WHO said this:
QuoteThe World Health Organisation (WHO) has defined the minimum efficacy threshold for acceptance of any COVID-19 vaccine as 50%, which could be determined against disease, severe disease and/or transmission of the virus.2 Published modelling data have demonstrated that vaccine efficacy at 60% could have a significant impact on the course of the pandemic, reducing disease severity and hospitalisation rates; 80% efficacy may be able to bring an end to the pandemic, meaning measures such as social distancing could be completely relaxed.3,4 These data consider uptake within a community and offer a target at which to aim when developing COVID-19 vaccines.
Full article:
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13 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:
The news on the Oxford vaccine was initially highly encouraging but the peculiar divergence in immunity between two groups in the trial is causing considerable scepticism.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55086927In regards to vaccine development and its approval, 50% efficacy would be good enough, nevertheless I am not convinced with this trial, they need to repeat it to prove the claim.
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Oxford announced they have a new vaccine which can be stored in the fridge and at a much lower price than Pfizer. It is promising. Canada and Uk have signed a trade deal. Perhaps that may expedite the process for vaccination in Canada.
On another note, I cannot help but contemplate how on earth did the Covid drug by Pfizer got 95% accuracy claim just 2 days after the announcement of Moderna drug into the market? I recall both drugs were launched on Monday within a space of one week. On Wednesday Pfizer announced that the efficacy of their drug has increased from 90% to 95% to match the efficacy of Moderna drug!
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58 minutes ago, Argus said:
The huge improvement from Moderna will be that it can be distributed through normal channels and won't need special freezers. Plus it's even more effective than the Pfizer vaccine.
Indeed! It begs the question though whether the efficacy of the new drug means that the contracts will be awarded to Moderna since it has better success rates and distribution channel or each vaccine from theses pharma companies will have different effect depending on the type of person.
We also wouldn’t know the side effects of these vaccines. Those who are less vulnerable in-terms of age or pre-existing conditions may be inclined to take the vaccine if they were offered.
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Moderna said it had improved the shelf life and stability of its own vaccine, meaning that it can be stored at standard refrigeration temperatures of 2C to 8C for 30 days. It can be stored for six months at -20C for shipping and long-term storage, the company said.
Pfizer charges $20 per dose
AstraZeneca 2 dollars onlyI think the price would be a sticking issue for developing countries....
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Another Covid drug with 95% success rate announced today by Moderna...Coincidentally the announcement came on Monday. A week after the first drug was announced. A rebuttal for those who claimed the announcement coincided with the US election in favour of president elect Joe Biden...
This is a fantastic news!
https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/modernas-covid-19-vaccine-candidate-meets-its-primary-efficacy
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16 hours ago, Argus said:
You don't know this. For a guy supposedly filthy rich he has fought tooth and nail to hide his finances. We know he owes a lot of money, but we don't really know how much. His sons claimed he got a lot of financing from Russian and other eastern European oligarchs - laundering money in Steve Bannon's parlance. So we really don't know. On top of that he is insanely greedy.
Demonstrably false. He has suggested things a number of times, only to immediately back away when confronted. Remember his 'you guys are afraid of the NRA. I'm not afraid of them. Then he backed off about a week later. He was all set to sign the Republican budget, then the talking heads of FOX and right wing radio started decrying the lack of money for a wall. He did a 180 and said he wouldn't sign it without money for his wall.
If by that you mean they sought stability and he seeks instability, okay.
To add to this his $750 tax return is a final straw. For a man who encourages how to get away with this when he sets a bad example for others.
IMO, the notion of election fraud is an excuse fir Trump to buy him extra time to declare immunity against police accusations of corruptions and his dodgy deals. He needs this time between now to January to sort out the legal matters.
Back on this topic Trump cannot get credit for the new vaccine as this was a joint effort between pharmaceutical companies of different countries and the trial was tested on a massive scale across multiple of countries.
From what I understood the new vaccine packed into cold storage trucks, those vials will arrive at inoculation sites where they can thaw and be stacked in fridges at 2 to 8 degrees celsius for a maximum five days before going bad. It does seem to present a logistical challenge for the developing countries.
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1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:
Nope...testing was done in the U.S.
Do you deny that testing was done in the U.S. ?
I am not denying anything...Just pointing out the testing was not done only in the US.
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29 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:
Pfizer and BioNTech still benefited from Trump's Operation Warp Speed because of testing in the U.S., manufacturing orders, and distribution planning.....about $1.95 BILLION worth for all vaccine players.
Your suggestion that the testing was done in the US as you've stated above is misleading since it gives the reader the impression that you are only focussing on drug trial in the US!
3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:Never said it was only tested in the U.S.
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17 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:
Pfizer and BioNTech still benefited from Trump's Operation Warp Speed because of testing in the U.S., manufacturing orders, and distribution planning
It was not tested just in US....The drugmaker's trial evolved some 43,500 people across six countries half of whom were administered with the vaccine according to verified sources...
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2 hours ago, dialamah said:
Although, it appears that Trump's regime contributed nada to the development of this vaccine - Germany actually made it happen.
As I understood it was a collaboration between Pfizer and Biontech that made this happen. So yes the Germans had pretty much contributed to this.
The UK Oxford Vaccine is also on its way. It is a fantastic news!
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You might find it amusing politicising the vaccine to score some brownies for outgoing Trump....It is nevertheless a breakthrough which is widely welcome
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This is indeed a fantastic news! With 90% success rate on humans versus placebo it gives hope at the end of the tunnel.
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Trump is just buying time between now to January to cover his ass and FBI enquiries into his dodgy dealings. The court proceedings takes time to keep him immune against these allegations. This whole “election fraud” thing is just a disguise for the sheeps who are still thinking that he won the the election.
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Commiseration to my fellow republican supporters for Donald Trump?
Latest tweet by Donald Trump. “I have won the election by alot” Yeah right...
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27 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said:
maybe he just needs a massage?
Trump truly exemplifies the traits of a narcissist. The guy is such a bad loser. The votes are rigged when he is losing to Biden but it’s ok for the people who voted for him...
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19 minutes ago, bcsapper said:
Please tell me these ain't yours...
Steven Bannon is the guy who suggested FBI Director Christopher and government infectious-diseases expert Dr Anthony Fauci should be “beheaded and have their head put on pikes outside the White House”.
These are the bunch of lunatics still running around freely from a federal criminal case. The man who is known for defrauding donors to a non profit group for allegedly building a wall on the southern border of US...
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2 hours ago, marcus said:
Biden is as dirty a politician as you can get. Over 40 years in politics and he achieved nothing for the people. He's a shill for lobbyists. That's usually the case for majority of lifelong politicians. They're in it for themselves. Biden is another Clinton.
On the other side, you have Trump. He is certainly different than the usual politician. But he is corrupt in his own way. He has business deals with corrupt governments. He has family involved in many of these. He has used his position to leverage these business deals.
The sad and pathetic thing in front of us are the cheerleaders on both sides. They somehow turn a blind eye to the corruption on the side they're cheering for.
When you haver to make a choice between the bad and worse the sensible option is baddy Biden.
The corporates are behind Trump and the Brits tacitly want him on a second term since his views on Brexit is more favourable with BoJo....
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On 10/3/2020 at 6:35 AM, SpankyMcFarland said:
The ME and Caucasus throw up strange teams. This time it's Israel and Turkey versus Russia and Iran. As for the core players, compromise is the only sensible path. When the dust settles in the mountains and everyone else has moved on, they'll still be stuck with each other.
Azerbaijan Republic< Armenia and parts of Georgia were all part of Persian empire and conceded in Russo/ Persian wars. Every country in the region has a vested interest. I agree in essence the best route is a diplomatic one. Armenia's position as a minority Christian country in a hostile neighbourhood is tricky. Even their Orthodox Georgian cousins have their backs turned on them.
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On 10/1/2020 at 4:21 PM, SpankyMcFarland said:
A small war has broken out on Iran’s border between Azerbaijan and Armenia in the Armenian-majority enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh. Turkey is openly supporting Azerbaijan whereas Armenia’s allies are more discreet. Russia may be arming both sides, small Soviet republics in the good old days, but has closer ties with Armenia historically. The other ally may come as a surprise to some. Iran supported Armenia in the original N-G war of 1988-1994 and is now denying, i.e. confirming, that trucks passing into Armenia are bringing arms. Azerbaijan has developed a close relationship with Israel. Quite the pickle.
Close relationship is supplying arms to Azerbaijan and getting paid generously.
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On 10/1/2020 at 4:21 PM, SpankyMcFarland said:
A small war has broken out on Iran’s border between Azerbaijan and Armenia in the Armenian-majority enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh. Turkey is openly supporting Azerbaijan whereas Armenia’s allies are more discreet. Russia may be arming both sides, small Soviet republics in the good old days, but has closer ties with Armenia historically. The other ally may come as a surprise to some. Iran supported Armenia in the original N-G war of 1988-1994 and is now denying, i.e. confirming, that trucks passing into Armenia are bringing arms. Azerbaijan has developed a close relationship with Israel. Quite the pickle.
Azerbaijan is an oil rich country with natural resources. That plays an important role in the oil pipeline from Baku via Ceyhan in Turkey to western Europe. So much about "brotherly love"....
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On 9/15/2020 at 2:51 AM, SpankyMcFarland said:
Further evidence that the people running Iran are idiots who can’t see the right fights to pick:
The whole country was proud of the first ever female winner of the Fields Medal in mathematics:Maryam Mirkhani wasn't just any female winner. She was an icon and contributed tremendously in the field of mathematics
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17 hours ago, Rue said:
Your response is disjointed.
My folks were scattered and had no nation like China. We were not the majority population on the planet, did not use a centralized government to create trade imbalances or sell contaminated meat. We were however like Chinese people today visibly different. Our virus was the collective guilt of the murder of Jesus. Their cross to bare is covid 19.
China's government has made its citizens a world target for hatred unless and until it demonstrates openly a willingness to apologize and clean up its markets.
If it does not mount a pr apology offensive and make acreal effort to crack down on wet market practices China may alienate the very people it needs to have goodwill with to sell to.
Out of every 4 person on earth one speaks and looks Chinese. You cannot undermine China nor the influence they have demonstrated in the sphere of buying large companies and setting investments in all western countries. They have the buying power as they have demonstrated time and time again. A large economy like china which exports literally everything to other countries on earth does not have to apologise for anything. What do you want to happen putting sanctions on them post Covid.19? It ain't happening. We are dependent on their goods.
Btw this is not a reflection of my view on China or the way it treats its own citizens. It’s just expressing the fact that an economy twice the size of Japan with such big population cannot be dictated with rhetorics nor stopped...
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35 minutes ago, Rue said:
Yes and no to your comments. Stopping spread does not mean it ends the virus unless the reason for stopping it is because of an immunity wall not a physical distance wall...which is why you need exposure through a vaccine if you do not allow it to naturally transmit. Stopping a virus by isolation is like damming water but the water continues to build up. You have to release the water or it bursts out from accumulated pressure. I disagree with the type and amount of isolation not its purpose. I get your points though.
By the way the worse a virus is the less likely it spreads, the less serious it is, the faster it spreads, so its mutating like sars did while it did make it harder to treat also made it easier to stop since it became very hard to spread. Either way we die.
That is what happens with viruses.
I think we are trying to resist inevitable rules of natural evolution of diseases through transmission just as we ignore and have grown out of touch with many other concepts of nature. We are obsessed with trying to prevent natural movement or progression of life processes instead of learning to let them travel through us not around us.
Our approach to medicine is often one of trying to postpone transmission rather than let it pass through us because we think we can send basic rules of nature.
I contend we do this based on our fear of death and wanting to postpone death rather than accept it.
Pathologists and immunologists as well as oncologists have a different approach to viruses but they all know you can not hold back any virus it will go where it's destined to go until it finds its natural course of mutated resolution no different than you and I live, evolve, then die.
The reason for this postponement is because for years governments have invested in nuclear arms forgoing investment in medical research and NHS. That fear is deeply rooted in the knowledge that even the best NHS system cannot cope with the vast spread of the virus across the whole population inevitably resulting in higher mortality rate. Especially, where limited testing is still being carried out in many countries. That’s why there are the strict measures on social distancing...
New vaccine for Covid.19
in The Rest of the World
Posted · Edited by kactus
You will have to bear with my sarcasm. UK being the first country that trying the vaccine on their population. So far so good...But then comes this: