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I assume since you supplied the Wikipedia article, you agree with the following: "A Jew (Hebrew: יְהוּדִי, Yehudi (sl.); יְהוּדִים, Yehudim (pl.); Ladino: ג׳ודיו, Djudio (sl.); ג׳ודיוס, Djudios (pl.); Yiddish: ייִד, Yid (sl.); ייִדן, Yidn (pl.))[4] is a member of the Jewish people, an ethnoreligious group originating in the Israelites or Hebrews of the ancient Middle East. The ethnicity and the religion of Judaism, the traditional faith of the Jewish nation, are strongly interrelated, and converts to Judaism are both included and have been absorbed within the Jewish people throughout the millennia." Without getting into debates about what constitutes a race, I must assume you agree that converts to Judaism are "Jews"? If converts to Judaism are Jews, what connection do they have to the land in Palestine?

Do you know what it means to "conspire"? My company "conspires" every day to maximize profits and gain market share. The term "conspiracy theorist" is a term which is bandied about in order to cast aspersions on people who make certain claims. The world is full of "conspiracies". If you are a Jew, maybe you'll answer my question. What is a Jew?

Orthodox Jews would disagree with you. Yes, I use the word Zionism. I assume it's still in the dictionary. I never made a connection between Nazis and Jews. I made a connection between Nazis and Zionism. I do not equate the two. By the way, you never answered my question, what is a Jew? And yes, I believe there is a Zionist "conspiracy" to establish a Jewish state in Israel. Anyone but a retard would agree with me. There's lots to discuss about the holocaust, but some people want to end all debate, and silence anyone you disagree with by putting them in jail.

That's not what I said at all, unless you equate Jews and Zionism. What is a Jew? I have yet to see you provide evidence that I've denied anything about the holocaust, and I've yet for you to provide evidence to demonstrate that anything I've said is factually incorrect.

Here is the website: www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/biographies/eichmann.htm I've stated my point several times: The Nazis and the systematic killing of innocent Jews were the best thing that ever happened for the Zionist cause.

Interesting strategy based upon lies. Now please show me where I've denied the holocaust or that Jews were killed by Nazis.

What "type"? What are you claiming? I have never said anything about the number of people killed by the Nazis. What have I "revised". Everything I've stated is a FACT. FACT: Adolph Eichmann went to Israel prior to WWII to try to establish a Jewish state in Palestine. FACT: The Zionist organization known as the Stern gang collaborated with the Nazis. FACT: The establishment of the state of Isreal came shortly after WWII because the Nazis exterminated Jews. Do you deny any of these facts? Are you claiming that I have denied the holocaust? Please show me where I've denied the holocaust. Interesting, are you denying the validity of the following Eichmann biography? Adolf Eichmann

I posted the link to this already, but if you want it again, I'll post it again: "Eichmann was then assigned to investigate possible "solutions to the Jewish question." He visited Palestine in 1937 to discuss the possibility of large scale immigration of Jews to the Middle East with Arab leaders. British authorities, however, ordered him out of the country." Adolf Eichmann click the link above

Then we can agree that the slaughter of innocent Jews by the Nazis was the major reason that Isreal came into existence? Can we also agree that the Nazis sought to establish a Jewish state in Israel prior to the start of WWII? Can we also agree that the Stern gang collaborated with the Nazis? I never said that 6 million (or whatever the actual number is) Jews volunteered to be slaughtered. My point is that the Nazis were the best thing that ever happened to the Zionist cause.

Niether, so I would claim that my opinion would be less biased than those who would answer in the affirmative to either of your questions.

If Eichmann went before, then this demonstrates that the Nazis had Zionist aims before the war. Also, I never said the Stern gang was part of the German army or the SS. I merely stated that he collaborated with them in order to furthe Zionist goals.

This post is hate filled nonsense. Hate for anyone who questions the political motivations of Zionism. The truth is that I wouldn't harm the hair on one head of any Jew, or anyone else for that matter. I'm just making observations based upon facts. You and "your people" have every right to survival, just like everyone else. By the way, who are "your people" and what is a "Jew"?

Eichmann went to Palestine BEFORE WWII and the Nazi extermination of Jews. The fact is that the Stern Gang allied themselves with the Nazis, and the systematic killing of Jews in Europe was the impetus for a Jewish state in Palestine after WWII. Seems to me that the Nazis were the best thing that ever happened in favour of the Zionist cause.

One could argue that the best thing to ever happen to further the Zionist cause was the rise of the Nazis in Germany and the extermination of Jews in Europe. The state of Israel was formed shortly after.

Not all laws are just.

I don't agree with Mr. Zundel either, but I believe he has a right to express his opinion, and the fact that he was put in jail for expressing that opinion makes him a political prisoner.

Seems the Nazis were interested in Zionism as well: "Eichmann was then assigned to investigate possible "solutions to the Jewish question." He visited Palestine in 1937 to discuss the possibility of large scale immigration of Jews to the Middle East with Arab leaders. British authorities, however, ordered him out of the country. " Adolf Eichmann

I propose that all of Canada opt out of the Canada Pension Plan, because there is absolutely no necessity for it: "The persistence of the idea that monetary saving has a physical counterpart in physical accumulation will no doubt exercise the attention of historians of the present period." (C.H. Douglas, evidence submitted before the MacMillan Committee on Finance and Industry)

I find it disturbing that you make all sorts of assumptions. Are you saying that I cannot refer to Zionism? Do you deny that Ernst Zundel is a political prisoner?

Does it really matter how many were killed? Is someone who disagrees with the numbers killed a "holocaust denier"? Is someone who disagrees with the numbers of Jews killed deserving of jail? This is a highly politicized issue, evidenced by political prisoners such as Ernst Zundel. "I might not agree with what you say, but I'll defend your right to say it." Groups such as the ADL and JDL want to silence any debate on this subject. It's also a fact that the biggest single event which helped to establish the state of Israel is the "holocaust", so there is no doubt that Zionist interests have a vested interest in stifling all debate on the subject.

Interest is bank profit. I see you've seen the old "10 cannot pay for 11 argument". This is the same argument that socialists use when they argue against profit: interest simply being one form of profit - bank profit. The truth is that the money to pay the interest comes from the principle of other loans. In an economy there is not one loan in existence. In reality, there are a multitude of loans all coming due at different times, and the money created from one loan can be used to pay the interest of another. When the principle of a loan is repaid, that money is cancelled out of existence; however, when the interest of a loan is paid, that money forms the bank's profit and is spent back into the economy.

Precisely! This is why you can never have an honest debate on the subject. If you in any way challenge the number of Jews killed, then you're labelled a "holocaust denier". In fact, the numbers have changed, and continue to change depending on who's making the claim. As Napoleon Bonaparte once said, "history is a set of lies agreed upon".

Hi, I'm sorry that I did not respond to your post sooner. All money derives from the banking system. In Canada, cash and coin are created by the Royal Canadian mint on behalf of the Bank of Canada. This money is known as "high powered money" or "reserve money" and comprises a very small portion of the money supply. Most money is created by banks when they make loans. For instance, if someone goes to the bank for a mortgage, and the bank loans them $300,000 for their house, the bank is creating $3,000,000 new money. Money is destroyed when the principle of the loan is repaid (i.e. as the principle of the mortgage is repaid, the money is slowly destroyed). This is how money is created and destroyed. The process is known as deposit expansion. All money is created as a debt. Following are some links which help explain the process: MODERN MONEY MECHANICS Canada's Money Supply Hope this helps.

,Why is it good as a theory? Do you think people can remain united if they do not share a common culture?

I do not believe in Party politics, so I truly do not support any political party. However; if people think that Stephan Dion is going to keep Stephen Harper from a majority government, then I want whatever it is that you're smoking.