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  1. “The proper function of Parliament, I may perhaps be allowed to repeat, is to force all activities of a public nature to be carried on so that the individuals who comprise the public may derive the maximum benefit from them. Once the idea is grasped, the criminal absurdity of the party system becomes evident.” (C.H. Douglas, "The Tragedy of Human Effort,” Address at Central Hall, Liverpool, October 30, 1936.) Replace the word Parliment with Legislature, and the meaning is exactly the same.
  2. Christians around the world are not granted citizenship in the Vatican because they are Christians.
  3. The following is a collaborative effort: Introduction The term Social Credit, as a formal name, originated from the writings of the British engineer and originator of the Social Credit movement, Clifford Hugh Douglas (1879-1952), who wrote a book by that name in 1924. Douglas, a civil engineer who had pursued his higher education at Cambridge University, had published previously, most notably in the British intellectual journal The New Age whose editor, Alfred Orage, became converted to Douglas’s ideas and, subsequently devoted The New Age and latterly The New English Weekly, after a ten year sojourn in the United States, to promulgation of those ideas until his death on the eve of his BBC speech on Social Credit, November 5, 1934, in the “Poverty in Plenty” Series. Douglas’s first book Economic Democracy was published in 1920, shortly after his article “The Delusion of Super-Production” appeared in 1918 in the English Review. Among Douglas’s other early works were The Control and Distribution of Production, Credit-Power and Democracy and Warning Democracy and The Monopoly of Credit. Of considerable interest is the Evidence that he presented to the Canadian House of Commons Select Committee on Banking and Commerce in 1923, to the British Parliamentary Macmillan Committee on Finance and Industry in 1930, which included exchanges with economist J. M. Keynes, and to the Agricultural Committee of the Alberta Legislature in 1934 during the term of the United Farmers of Alberta Government in that Canadian Province. Douglas’s prolific writings spawned a worldwide movement, most prominent in the British Commonwealth but with beachheads in Europe and activities in the United States where Orage, during his sojourn there, promoted Douglas’s ideas. In the United States, the New Democracy group was headed by the American author Gorham Munson who contributed a major book on Social Credit titled Aladdin’s Lamp: The Wealth of the American People (New York: Creative Age Press, 1945.). While Canada and New Zealand had electoral successes with “Social Credit” political parties, the movement in England and Australia was primarily devoted to pressuring existing parties to implement Social Credit: this function was performed especially by Douglas’s Social Credit Secretariat in England and the Commonwealth Leagues of Rights especially in Australia. Douglas continued writing and contributing to the Secretariat’s journals, initially Social Credit and shortly thereafter The Social Crediter (which continues to be published by the Secretariat) for the remainder of his lifetime, concentrating more on political and philosophical issues in his later years. Political History In the early years of the movement in the UK there was strong pressure from trade unionists for the Labour Party to consider adopting ‘social credit’ ideals and policies. The Labour leadership proved hostile, however, essentially because its doctrines of Fabian socialism, with its hierarchical view of state-socialism, economic growth and full employment, were incompatible with such ideas as National Dividends and an end to wage/salary slavery. Certain British Labour economists expended considerable effort in an effort to discredit Social Credit. One of the leading Fabians is said to have declared that they didn’t care whether Douglas was technically correct or not—they simply did not like his policy! In 1935 the first “Social Credit” government was elected in Alberta, Canada under the leadership of William Aberhart. “Bible Bill”, as he was also known, was a high school mathematics teacher and radio evangelist who was given a book on Social Credit, titled The Meaning of Social Credit, written by the English author and actor Maurice Colborne, and decided Douglas’s theories were exactly what Alberta needed to escape the depression. Douglas, having counseled the previous United Farmers of Alberta Provincial Government was sought as an advisor to Aberhart, but withdrew shortly after due to disagreements, or misunderstandings, in policy and strategy. Under the pressures of dealing with the extreme conditions of the Great Depression and being unable to understand Douglas’s advice Aberhart sought the assistance of a representative of orthodox finance to put the Provinces finances in order. The difficult and strained correspondece between Aberhart and Douglas was published by Douglas in his book The Alberta Experiment (London: Eyre and Spottiswoode, 1937). The Premier wanted to balance the provincial budget, and Douglas stated that the concept of a balanced budget was completely inconsistent with the use of Social Credit, because of the arithmetic impossibility, under the existing rules of financial cost accountancy, of balancing all budgets within an economy simultaneously. (“The Fallacy of a Balanced Budget,” The New English Weekly, July 28, 1932, pp. 346-7) In a letter to Aberhart, Douglas stated, "This seems to be a suitable occasion on which to emphasise the proposition that a Balanced Budget is quite inconsistent with the use of Social Credit [i.e., Real Credit—the ability to deliver goods and services “as, when and where required”] in the modern world, and is simply a statement in accounting figures that the progress of the country is stationary, i.e., that it consumes exactly what it produces, including capital assets. The result of the acceptance of this proposition is that all capital appreciation becomes quite automatically the property of those who create an issue of money [i.e., the banking system] and the necessary unbalancing of the Budget is covered by Debts." Two other expert Social Credit technical advisors, L. Denis Byrne and George F. Powell, were sent from the United Kingdom by Douglas, but all attempts to pass Social Credit legislation were ruled ultra vires by the Supreme Court of Canada and Privy Council in London. In desperation, William Aberhart attempted to implement the monetary theories of Silvio Gesell by issuing a form of scrip known as "prosperity certificates", which depreciated in value the longer they were held. Douglas, however, was not impressed by Gesell's theories and openly criticized them. "Gesell's theory was that the trouble with the world was that people saved money so that what you had to do was to make them spend it faster. Disappearing money is the heaviest form of continuous taxation ever devised. The theory behind this idea of Gesell's was that what is required is to stimulate trade - that you have to get people frantically buying goods - a perfectly sound idea so long as the objective of life is merely trading." (" The Approach To Reality") The Alberta Social Credit Party, under Ernest Manning who succeeded Aberhart after his untimely death, slowly departed from its roots and became popularly identified as a right wing populist movement. Meanwhile, Douglas published in the Secretariat’s journal “An Act for the Better Management of the Credit of Alberta” (The Social Crediter, February 8, 1947). Subsequently, in the same journal, he wrote a critical analysis of what went wrong with Social Credit in Alberta (“Social Credit in Alberta”, August 28/September 4-11, 1948) in which he said, “The Manning administration is no more a Social Credit administration than the British government is Labor”. Social Credit also formed governments in British Columbia, Canada, but again the party had little in common with Douglas and his theories. Social Credit Parties also enjoyed some national electoral successes in Canada, with support from Western Canada and more notably from Quebec. Social Credit parties also had some electoral successes in New Zealand. Political Theory Douglas opposed the formation of Social Credit Parties, because he felt that a group of elected amateurs should never direct a group of competent experts in technical matters. ( “The Approach to Reality,” Address at Westminster, March 7, 1936.) The goal of politicians should be to pressure the experts to get the policy results desired by the populace, but the experts are ultimately responsible for achieving those results. “The proper function of Parliament, I may perhaps be allowed to repeat, is to force all activities of a public nature to be carried on so that the individuals who comprise the public may derive the maximum benefit from them. Once the idea is grasped, the criminal absurdity of the party system becomes evident.” ("The Tragedy of Human Effort,” Address at Central Hall, Liverpool, October 30, 1936.) Therefore, Social Credit supported by effective public demand could be implemented by any political party, and once implemented, achieving a realistic integration of means and ends, party politics would cease to exist. Douglas defined democracy as the “will of the people”, not rule by the majority. It is the right of the individual to choose freely one thing at a time, and to contract out of unsatisfactory associations. Traditional ballot-box democracy is incompatible with Social Credit, and Douglas advocated what he called the “responsible vote”, where anonymity in the voting process no longer existed. "The individual voter must be made individually responsible, not collectively taxable, for his vote." ("Realistic Consitutionalism") The establishment of the supremacy of common law is essential to ensuring the rights of individuals are protected from an all powerful parliament. Douglas believed that the constitution was an organism, not an organization. He also believed that the effectiveness of the British government was structurally determined by its application of the Christian concept known as Trinitarianism. "In some form or other, sovereignty in the British Isles for the last two thousand years has been Trinitarian. Whether we look on this Trinitarianism under the names of King, Lords and Commons or as Policy, Sanctions and Administration, the Trinity-in-Unity has existed, and our national success has been greatest when the balance (never perfect) has been approached. ("Realistic Constitutionalism") Economic Theory Douglas disagreed with classical economists such as Adam Smith and David Ricardo who divided the factors of production into land, labour and capital. He also disagreed with Marx who claimed that labour created all wealth. Douglas believed the “cultural inheritance of society” was the primary factor in production. Our cultural inheritance is defined as the knowledge, technique and processes that have been handed down to us incrementally from the origins of civilization. Consequently, we do not have to keep “reinventing the wheel”. “We are merely the administrators of that cultural inheritance, and to that extent the cultural inheritance is the property of all of us, without exception.” (“The Monopolistic Idea,” Address at the Melbourne Town Hall, Australia, January 22, 1934.) Douglas also criticized classical economics because it was based upon a barter economy; whereas, the modern economy is a monetary one. To the orthodox economist, money is a medium of exchange. This may have once been the case when the majority of wealth was produced by individuals who exchanged it with each other, but in the modern economy, where production is split up into multiple processes, wealth is produced by people working in association with each other. For instance, any automobile worker does not produce any wealth by himself ; the wealth that is produced (i.e., the automobile) is only produced in conjunction with other auto workers, the producers of roads, gasoline, insurance etc. Therefore, wealth is a pool upon which people can draw, and the efficiency gained by individuals co-operating in the productive process in known as the “unearned increment of association”—historic accumulations of which constitute what Douglas called the Cultural Heritage. The means of drawing upon this pool are the tickets distributed by the banking system. Money originally came from the productive system, when cattle owners punched leather discs which represented a head of cattle. These discs could then be exchanged for corn, and the corn producers could then exchange the disc for a head of cattle at a later date. The word “pecuniary” comes from the Latin “pecus,” meaning cattle. Today, the productive system and the distributive/monetary system are two separate entities. Douglas was one of the first to understand that loans create deposits, and he gave a short mathematical proof of this in his book Social Credit. Bank credit comprises the vast majority of money, and is created every time a bank makes a loan. Douglas was also one of the first to understand the creditary nature of money. The word credit derives from the Latin “credere”, meaning to believe. “The essential quality of money, therefore, is that a man shall believe that he can get what he wants by the aid of it.” (C.H. Douglas, “Engineering, Money and Prices,” Paper read at the Institution of Mechanical Engineers, April 22, 1927, reprinted in Warning Democracy, 1935, p. 15) Money should not be regarded as a commodity but rather as a ticket, a means of distribution of production (“The Use of Money,” Address in St. James’ Theatre, Christchurch, New Zealand, February 13, 1934, p. 11, 13.) “There are two sides to this question of a ticket representing something that we can call, if we like, a value. There is the ticket itself--the money which forms the thing we call ‘effective demand’—and there is something we call a price opposite to it.” (“The Use of Money,” op cit., p. 15) Money is effective demand, and the means of reclaiming that money are prices and taxes. As real capital replaces labour in the process of modernization money should become increasingly an instrument of distribution. Douglas also claimed the problem of production, or scarcity, had long been solved. The new problem was one of distribution. Douglas criticized the banking system on two counts: 1) for being a form of government which has been centralizing its power for centuries, and 2) for claiming ownership to the money they create. The latter he claimed was equivalent to claiming ownership of the nation. (“Dictatorship by Taxation,” An Address delivered in the Ulster Hall, Belfast, November 24, 1936.) Money, Douglas claimed, was merely an abstract representation of the real credit of the community, which is the ability of the community to deliver goods and services, when, and where they are required. The first article to appear in the New Age, edited by A.R. Orage, titled “A Mechanical View of Economics” appeared in January, 1919. In this article, we get a glimpse of Douglas’s concerns in regards to the methods by which economic activity is measured when he says, “It is not the purpose of this short article to depreciate the services of accountants; in fact, under the existing conditions probably no body of men has done more to crystallize the data on which we carry on the business of the world; but the utter confusion of thought which has undoubtedly arisen from the calm assumption of the book-keeper and the accountant that he and he alone was in a position to assign positive or negative values to the quantities represented by his figures is one of the outstanding curiosities of the industrial system; and the attempt to mold the activities of a great empire on such a basis is surely the final condemnation of an out-worn method." Just over a year later, in his book Credit-Power and Democracy (1920), we see Douglas's critique of accounting methodology as it pertains to income and prices in his famous “A+B theorem”. This was not a theory but a theorem. Quoting from the fourth, Australian Edition of 1933: "A factory or other productive organization has, besides its economic function as a producer of goods, a financial aspect—it may be regarded on the one hand as a device for the distribution of purchasing-power to individuals through the media of wages, salaries, and dividends; and on the other hand as a manufactory of prices—financial values. From this standpoint its payments may be divided into two groups: Group A - All payments made to individuals (wages, salaries, and dividends). Group B - All payments made to other organizations (raw materials, bank charges, and other external costs). Now the rate of flow of purchasing-power to individuals is represented by A, but since all payments go into prices, the rate of flow of prices cannot be less than A+B. The product of any factory may be considered as something which the public ought to be able to buy, although in many cases it is an intermediate product of no use to individuals but only to a subsequent manufacture; but since A will not purchase A+B; a proportion of the product at least equivalent to B must be distributed by a form of purchasing-power which is not comprised in the description grouped under A. It will be necessary at a later stage to show that this additional purchasing power is provided by loan credit (bank overdrafts) or export credit.”. (C.H. Douglas, Credit-Power and Democracy, Aust. Edition, 1933, pp. 22-23) The theorem itself demonstrates that total prices rise faster than total incomes when regarded as a flow. Douglas proposed to eliminate this problem by giving “debt-free” credits to consumers in the form of a price rebate and a dividend, called formally a Compensated Price and a National (or Consumer) Dividend. A National Credit Office would be charged with the task of calculating the size of the rebate and dividend by determining a national balance sheet, and keeping track of aggregate production and consumption statistics. The price rebate is based upon the observation that the real cost of production is the mean rate of consumption over the mean rate of production for an equivalent period of time. The physical cost of producing something is the materials and capital that were consumed in its production, plus that amount of Labor consumed during its production. This total consumption represents the physical cost of production. Since less inputs are consumed to produce a unit of output as technology advances, and total production increases relative to total consumption over time, the real cost of production is falling over time; hence, prices should be falling with the progression of time. The price rebate (Compensated Price) is designed to realize this fact. The Dividend is based upon the fact that Labor is being displaced in the productive process due to increases in productivity. Since Labor is being replaced in the productive process, people should be free to consume while enjoying an increasing amount of leisure as machines displace them. The Dividend would give people this freedom. Further, Labor displacement in the productive process implies that overhead charges {B}Bare increasing in relation to income (A), because “B is the financial representation of the lever of capital” (C.H. Douglas Credit Power and Democracy, Aust. Edition, 1933, p. 25). This means that any attempt to stabilize or increase income is met with rising prices. If A is constant or increasing, and B is increasing due to technological advances, then A+B (prices) must also be increasing. From this perspective, inflation and unemployment are trade offs (re the Phillips Curve), unless prices are reduced from debt- free monies that do not derive from the productive system. The cause of these “B” payments, or overhead charges, is described by Douglas in his pamphlet entitled, "The New and The Old Economics" when he says, “I think that a little consideration will make it clear that in this sense an overhead charge is any charge in respect of which the actual distributed purchasing power does not still exist, and that practically this means any charge created at a further distance in the past than the period of cyclic rate of circulation of money. There is no fundamental difference between tools and intermediate products, and the latter may therefore be included.” The cyclic rate of circulation of money measures the amount of time that it takes for a loan to go through the productive system and to come back to the bank. This can be calculated by determining the amount of clearings through the bank in a year divided by the average amount of deposits held at the banks (which varies very little). This number will give you the amount of times money must turnover in order to produce these clearing house figures. Douglas estimated the cyclic rate of circulation of money to be approximately three weeks. As Douglas said in his testimony before the Alberta Agricultural Committee of the Alberta Legislature in 1934, “Now we know there are an increasing number of charges which originated from a period much anterior to three weeks, and included in those charges, as a matter of fact, are most of the charges made in, respect of purchases from one organization to another, but all such charges as capital charges (for instance, on a railway which was constructed a year, two years, three years, five or ten years ago, where charges are still extant), cannot be liquidated by a stream of purchasing power which does not increase in volume and which has a period of three weeks. The consequence is, you have a piling up of debt, you have in many cases a diminution of purchasing power being equivalent to the price of the goods for sale.” (p. 90) We see the major consequence of the problem that Douglas identified is exponentially increasing debt. Other less noticeable consequences are that society is either forced to engage in production that the consumer does not want, or production he cannot purchase. The latter represents a “favorable balance of trade”, meaning a country exports more than it imports. The former represents excessive capital production and/or military buildup. The problem with pursuing a favorable balance of trade is that not every country can pursue this objective at the same time, since it is necessary for a country to import more than it exports if another exports more than it imports. The long-term consequence of this policy is a trade war, ultimately resulting in real war. Hence, the Social Credit admonition, as expressed by the Social Credit Party of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, led by John Hargrave, that “He who calls for Full-Employment calls for War!” Excessive capital production is only a temporary fix because the cost of the capital ultimately shows up in the cost of consumer goods, or taxes, which only goes to further exacerbate the gap between income and prices at a later date. Military buildup necessitates either it’s use, or stockpiling of weapons leading to inventory accumulation. Philosophy Douglas warned against viewing Social Credit solely as a scheme of monetary reform. He described Social Credit as a policy of a philosophy. He coined this philosophy “practical Christianity.” Douglas believed there was a Canon which ran through the universe, and Jesus Christ was the Incarnation of this Canon. However, he also felt that Christianity remained ineffective so long as it remained transcendental. Religion, which derives from the Latin word relegare, meaning to “bind back”, was supposed to be a binding back to reality. Christianity was only effective to the extent that it was rooted in existence. Although Douglas defined Social Credit as a philosophy with Christian roots, he did not envision a Christian theocracy. Social Credit society recognizes the fact that the relationship between man and God is unique. Therefore, it is essential to allow man the greatest possible freedom in order to pursue this relationship. If people are given the economic security and leisure achievable in the context of a Social Credit dispensation, most would end their service to mammon and use their free time pursuing spiritual, intellectual, or cultural goals leading to self-development. Douglas did not believe that religion should be thrust upon anyone through force of law or external compulsion. He emphasized that all policy derives from its respective philosophy and that “. . . Society is primarily metaphysical, and must have regard to the organic relationships of its prototype.” Douglas said that Social Crediters wants to build a new civilization based upon absolute economic security for the individual—where “. . . they shall sit every man [individual] under his [her] vine and under his [her] fig tree; and none shall make them afraid.” (Micah iv, 4 quoted on the cover of the Douglas Quarterly Review, The Fig Tree, New Series. 1954-55.) In keeping with this goal, Douglas was opposed to all forms of taxation on real property. This set Social Credit at variance from the land-taxing recommendations of the Henry George School. Douglas opposed what he termed “the pyramid of power.” Totalitarianism reflects this pyramid and is the antithesis of Social Credit. It turns the government into an end instead of a means, and the individual into a means instead of an end—Demon est deus inversus—“the devil is God upside down.” Social Credit is designed to give the individual the maximum freedom allowable given the need for association in economic, political and social matters. Liberty in politics is dependent on the metaphysical concept of free will, for what use is the purpose of liberty if man is not free to choose? Social Credit rejects dialectical materialistic philosophy. Douglas divided philosophy into two schools of thought that he labeled the "classical school" and the "modern school", which are broadly represented by philosophies of Aristotle and Bacon respectively. Douglas was critical of both schools of thought, but believed that "the truth lies in appreciation of the fact that neither conception is useful without the other". (C.H. Douglas: Social Credit. ISBN 0-087968-107-1, p. 6) Social Credit philosophy is best summed by Douglas when he said, “Systems were made for men, and not men for systems, and the interest of man which is self-development, is above all systems, whether theological, political or economic.” (Economic Democracy, Fourth Revised and. Enlarged Edition, 1934, p 18.) Critics to A+B and Rebuttal Critics to the theorem argue there is no difference between A and B payments, and Social Credit policies are inflationary. These criticisms are based upon the quantity theory of money, which states that the quantity of money multiplied by its velocity of circulation equals total purchasing power. Following is a brief explanation of the quantity theory of money: "MV=PQ: where M=quantity of money in the hands of the public P=average level of prices Q=quantity of output (that is real national product or real national income). Thus, PQ = national product, measured in nominal (dollar) terms And V = income velocity of money, that is, the average number of times that the money stock (M) is spent to buy final output during a year. Specifically, V is defined as being equal to PQ/M Suppose that the money stock is $20 billion. Assume that, in the course of a year, the average dollar bill and the average chequing deposit are spent twelve times to purchase final goods and services. In other words, V is 12. Then, total spending for final output is $20 billion times 12, or $240 billion. In turn, this total spending (MV) equals the total quantity of goods and services (Q) times the average price (P) at which they were sold. But how can the same dollar be used over and over to purchase final goods? Very simply. When you purchase groceries at the store, the $50 you pay does not disappear. Rather, it goes into the cash register of the store. From there, it is used to pay the farmer for fresh vegetables, the canning factory for canned goods, or the clerk's wages. The farmer or the clerk or the employee of the canning factory will in turn use the money to purchase goods. Once more, the same money is used for final purchases. The same dollar bill can circulate round and round." (Blomqvist, Wonnacott and Wonnacott, "Economics First Canadian Edition" ISBN: 0-07-54815-X: p. 247-248) Douglas wrote in a committee report to the Alberta government in regards to the quantity theory of money: “The fallacy in the theory lies in the incorrect assumption that money "circulates", whereas it is issued against production, and withdrawn as purchasing power as the goods are bought for consumption. “ (C.H. Douglas, “The Alberta Post-War Reconstruction Committee Report of the Subcommittee on Finance" Because all money is created as a debt that needs to be repaid, money does not circulate, but instead operates in an accounting cycle. If a retailer receives money from a customer for its product, the total sum of this money is neither profit, nor income. A retailer has debts to repay, or it must replace working capital. These sums are subtracted from revenues when determining profits. Neither is the profit entirely income; taxes must be paid, and a portion may be re-invested back into the business. Therefore, of the money received from the customer, the retailer may find that only a very small percentage is actually distributed as income that can then be spent on goods or services, the rest is either used to repay debts, replace working capital, or re-invested back into the firm. The fallacy is that the same dollar bill can "circulate round and round"; in reality, money is created as a debt that needs to be repaid. Every loan creates a deposit, and every repayment of a loan destroys a deposit. Therefore; money does not "circulate round and round" but is created and destroyed through the creation of loans and their repayment. Other critics argue that if the gap between income and prices exists as Douglas claimed, the economy would have collapsed in short order. They also argue that there are periods of time in which purchasing power is in excess of the price of consumer goods for sale. Douglas replied to these criticisms in his testimony before the Alberta Agricultural Committee when he said, "What people who say that forget is that we were piling up debt at that time at the rate of ten millions sterling a day and if it can be shown, and it can be shown, that we are increasing debt continuously by normal operation of the banking system and the financial system at the present time, then that is proof that we are not distributing purchasing power sufficient to buy the goods for sale at that time; otherwise we should not be increasing debt, and that is the situation." (p. 90) Incomes are paid out to workers during a multi-stage program of production, and according to the convention of accepted orthodox rules of accountancy, said incomes, are part of the financial cost and price of the final product when it is ready for use at the point of retail sale. For the product to be purchased with incomes earned in respect of its manufacture, all of these incomes would have to be saved until the product’s completion. In the real world earned incomes are largely, and necessarily, spent on past production to meet the present needs of living, and will not be available to purchase goods completed in the future –goods which must include the sum of incomes paid out during their period of manufacture in their price . Because the cyclic rate of circulation of money takes less time than the cancellation of the costs that the money created, orthodox economics can only allow access to the final products of industry by the mechanism of increasing consumer debt that constitutes a mortgage against future incomes. This does not liquidate the financial cost of production inasmuch as it merely passes charges of one accountancy period on as mounting charges against future periods. In other words, supply does not create enough demand to liquidate all the costs of production: Social Credit denies the validity of "Says Law" in economics. Literary Figures in Social Credit As lack of finance has been a constant impediment to the development of the arts and literature, the concept of economic democracy through Social Credit had immediate appeal in literary circles. Names associated with Social Credit include Charlie Chaplin, William Carlos Williams, Ezra Pound, T.S. Eliot, Herbert Read, Aldous Huxley, Storm Jameson, Eimar O’Duffy, Sybil Thorndyke, Bonamy DobrÈe and the American publisher James Laughlin . In 1933 Eimar O’Duffy published Asses in Clover, a science fiction fantasy exploration of social credit themes. His social credit economics book Life and Money: Being a Critical Examination of the Principles and Practice of Orthodox Economics with A Practical Scheme to End the Muddle it has made of our Civilisation, was endorsed by Douglas. Summary In Social Credit terminology, the words “Economic Democracy” do not mean worker control of industry. They mean conditions of consumer sovereignty wherein the consumer establishes the policy of production through exercise of his money-vote, fully provided with adequate purchasing power. The policy of production is so to be removed from the banking institutions, the government and industry. Social Credit envisages an “aristocracy of producers, serving and accredited by a democracy of consumers.” (C. H. Douglas) The true purpose of production is consumption and production must serve the genuine, freely expressed interests of consumers. Each citizen is to have a beneficial, not direct, inheritance in the communal capital—conferred by complete and dynamic access to the fruits of industry assured by the National Dividend and Compensated Price.Social Credit is distributive and its policy is to disperse power to individuals. “The only safe place for power is in many hands.”
  4. You misinterpreted what I said, but I guess if you pull the second sentence out of context, it could appear that is what I said. The second sentence is in conjuction with the first which states that Jews are given citizenship in Isreal based SOLELY on their religion (i.e. the fact that they are Jewish and the right of return), and this right is not extended to other religions in Isreal (i.e. the right of return). Of course other people of other religious denominations can immigrate to Isreal, but Jews all over the world are given the right automatically via the right of return. Some on here keep saying that Christians have nations, and Muslims have nations, but Jews don't (prior to Isreal). Show me one other nation on earth, besides Isreal, that grants you citizenship based solely on the fact that you are a Christian.
  5. The higher ups in the communist regime were Jewish, so they inflated the holocaust numbers to put pressure on the UN to establish a Jewish state in Palestine?
  6. A wise policy. I also keep seperate the followers of the religion known as Judaism from the political movement known as Zionism.
  7. Show me the post where I said only Jews were allowed to become citizens of Israel. What post #?
  8. Again, don't waste my time. See a psychologist for your issues of projection. Put up what you want me to respond to, or shut up.
  9. LMFAO. This is the nonsense that is given as an "argument". If Jews disagree with you, they claim you are an "anti-semite".
  10. You will not get an honest debate on this issue, especially by those who believe they have a vested interest in protecting the state of Israel. Why do you think the numbers were grossly exaggerated by the communist side?
  11. This is what is known in psychology as "projection". I'm not the one playing word games. You said you think countries should abide by international law "for the most part", and I asked you if you believe countries can pick and choose which international laws they will follow - you did not reply. You asked me if I knew about Germany's right of return law, I answered that I did not, and asked you to post it so I can look at it and comment - you did not. You say that I've made false claims about Israel, I asked you to post those claims - you did not. You say I've ignored something that you've posted, and I claimed I tried to answer every post directed towards me, and to please repost what you thought I ignored - you did not. You are the one trying to play word games and a game of cat and mouse. If you want me to answer something specific, post it. Otherwise, don't waste my time.
  12. What do you mean "for the most part"? Do you mean nations get to pick and choose which international laws they choose to follow? I never said I wasn't interested in Germany's right of return law. In fact, I asked you to explain it so that I may give you my opinion on it. I merely said that I did not know enough about it to comment. Which claims that I made about Israel are false? I have addressed every email directed towards me, and have made a point of doing it.
  13. Interesting, then you believe that a country should uphold international law? I'm not really familiar with Germany's law of return, but perhaps you would like to enlighten me so I could decide what I think about it.
  14. I dont' know? Are being in a gang and being Asian connected?
  15. Just because every country has a right to make its own laws does not mean those laws are moral! Nazi Germany had the right to make its own laws as well. Does that mean it was alright to exterminate Jews because it was German law? After all, every country has a right to establish its own laws.
  16. Ahhh, when you can't defend your position with logic, out comes the ad-hominem. Brilliant!
  17. I never said non-Jews couldn't immigrate to Israel. What I said was that Jews all over the world were given the right to immigrate to Israel through the law of return. My question was which other nation allows all people of a given religion automatic citizenship besides Israel?
  18. Yes, the Nazis thought that Jews were a race, which also makes them similar to Zionists in another way.
  19. This is a total misreprentation of what I said. I didn't say that ONLY Jews were allowed to immigrate to Israel. I claimed that all Jews in the world have the right to immigrate to Israel. "The Law of Return declares that Israel constitutes a home not only for the inhabitants of the State, but also for all members of the Jewish people everywhere - be they living in poverty and fear of persecution or in affluence and safety." Law of Return
  20. Christians don't have a country of their own. This is absolutely false. Show me one nation on earth were you are granted citizenship based upon the sole fact that you are a Christian. No, I do not think any religion should have a "country of their own". And again, no I do not thing that the persecution of Jews is "unique in the history of man". There have been many people persecuted over the course of the history of man, but I'm sure many Jews want us to believe that it is unique to them.
  21. The religions of Christianity and Islam have been based there for millenia. I'm not going to answer any questions about Palestinians and Muslims because I'm neither. Please show me where I've "down-played the holocaust". My motivation for making a connection between Zionism and the Nazis is the search for the truth.
  22. This is comical, and so obvious. It's the childish act of deflection, and does not in any way answer my questions. What connection do those who practice Judaism have with the land in Israel that any other followers of the faiths of Abraham (Christianity and Islam) do not have? And why was a nation given to the practictioners of Judaism? And why do the practictioners of Judaism have preferential treatment in becoming a citizen of Israel?
  23. We're not talking about Saudi Arabia. This reminds me of the child in the principal's office who's defense is "oh yeah, well look at what Johnny does". The point is that Jews are given citizenship in Israel based solely upon their religion. This citizenship is not granted to any other religion. What connection to the land in Israel did Sammy Davis Jr. have which any Christian or Muslim did not?
  24. I hope you realize that other religions also have a connection to the land of Israel that is not racial (whatever the term "race" means). However; other religions are not considered citizens of Israel based upon their religion, and that is a significant difference.
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