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The New International Version for 2 Corinthians 8:24 states: "Therefore show these men the proof of your love and the reason for our pride in you, so that the churches can see it." The New International Version for Luke 1:51 states: "He has performed mighty deeds with his arm; he has scattered those who are proud in their inmost thoughts." The New International Version for 2 Timothy 3:2 states: "People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy," The New International Version for James 4:6 states: "But he gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says: 'God opposes the proud but shows favor to the humble.'" The New International Version for 1 Peter 5:5 states: "Young men, in the same way be submissive to those who are older. All of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, because, 'God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.'"

The English Standard Version for 2 Corinthians 7:4 states: "I am acting with great boldness toward you; I have great pride in you; I am filled with comfort. In all our affliction, I am overflowing with joy." The English Standard Version for Mark 7:20-23 states: "And he said, 'What comes out of a person is what defiles him. For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within, and they defile a person." The English Standard Version for 1 John 2:16 states: "For all that is in the world - the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride of life - is not from the Father but is from the world."

It means that Bible translations such as the English Standard Version and the New Century Version confuse kauchēsis with hyperēphanos/hyperēphania by translating both kauchēsis and hyperēphanos/hyperēphania as pride or proud. In the Greek NT, kauchēsis has mostly a positive connotation while hyperēphanos/hyperēphania has a negative connotation. "... God is not the author of confusion, ..." (1 Corinthians 14:33)

The New Century Version for Romans 15:17 states: "So I am proud of what I have done for God in Christ Jesus." The New Century Version for Luke 1:51 states: "He has done mighty deeds by his power. He has scattered the people who are proud and think great things about themselves." The New Century Version for 1 Timothy 6:4 states: "This person is full of pride and understands nothing, but is sick with a love for arguing and fighting about words. This brings jealousy, fighting, speaking against others, evil mistrust," The New Century Version for 2 Timothy 3:2 states: "because people will love themselves, love money, brag, and be proud. They will say evil things against others and will not obey their parents or be thankful or be the kind of people God wants." The New Century Version for James 4:6 states: "But God gives us even more grace, as the Scripture says, 'God is against the proud, but he gives grace to the humble.'"

The English Standard Version for Romans 15:17 states: "In Christ Jesus, then, I have reason to be proud of my work for God." The English Standard Version for Luke 1:51 states: "He has shown strength with his arm; he has scattered the proud in the thoughts of their hearts;" The English Standard Version for 2 Timothy 3:2 states: "For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy," The English Standard Version for James 4:6 states: "But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, 'God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.'"

The quote you provided does not support your claim that I "judged" myself "a Christian". The quote you provided also does not support your claim that I "judged those who disagree with" my supposed "interpretation as not Christian". I interpreted "pride" in Mark 7:22 as meaning "pride".

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In the Greek NT, kauchēsis has mostly a positive connotation while hyperēphanos/hyperēphania has a negative connotation. One needs to wonder about Bible translations that translate kauchēsis as "pride" or "proud" when the majority of Bibles translate hyperēphanos/hyperēphania as "pride" or "proud". I do not have "pride in being a better Christian" nor have I ever claimed to be "a better Christian".

In most Bible translations, glory, to glory, glorying or glorifying is mostly a good thing, unlike pride or being proud.

In most Bible translations, glory, to glory, glorying or glorifying is mostly a good thing, unlike pride or being proud. Other translations of kauchēsis in Romans 15:17 refer instead to "glory", "glorying", or "glorifying". For example: "I have therefore whereof I may glory through Jesus Christ in those things which pertain to God." Romans 15:17 (KJV)

Other translations of kauchēsis in 2 Corinthians 7:4 refer to "glorying" or "glory" instead of "pride". For example: "Great is my boldness of speech toward you, great is my glorying of you: I am filled with comfort, I am exceeding joyful in all our tribulation." (2 Corinthians 7:4, KJV) Other translations of kauchēsis in 2 Corinthians 8:24 refer to "glorying" instead of "pride". For example: "Show ye therefore unto them in the face of the churches the proof of your love, and of our glorying on your behalf." (2 Corinthians 8:24, ASV)

In the KJV NT, "pride" is found three times and is translated from the Greek words "hyperēphania", "typhoō", and "alazoneia", and is never considered good, as is evident in the three verses: "Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:" Mark 7:22 "Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil." 1 Timothy 3:6 "For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world." 1 John 2:16

In the KJV NT, "proud" is always (six times) translated from the Greek word "hyperēphanos", and is never considered good, as is evident in the six verses: "He hath showed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts." Luke 1:51 "Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents," Romans 1:30 "He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings," 1 Timothy 6:4 "For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy," 2 Timothy 3:2 "But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble." James 4:6 "Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble." 1 Peter 5:6

In the Bible, glory or glorifying is mostly a good thing, unlike pride or being proud.

Other translations of kauchēsis in Romans 15:17 refer instead to "glory", "glorying", or "glorifying". For example: "Therefore I glory in Christ Jesus in my service to God." Romans 15:17 (New International Version)

"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." Matthew 7:1-2 The commandment in Matthew 7:1-2 is to judge not violations of the laws of God along with dispensing out measures. See also Matthew 13:28-30. New Testament Christian law does not instruct men to carry out any specified penalty, punishment, or enforcement for violations of the laws of God before the end of the present church age. Nevertheless, both good and evil are to be discerned. "Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?" Luke 12:57 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." John 7:24 "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God." Romans 12:2 "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man." 1 Corinthians 2:15 "For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;) Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord." Ephesians 5:8-10 "That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ;" Philippians 1:10

Christians are supposed to discern both good and evil. "Test all things; hold fast to that which is good. Abstain from all appearance of evil." 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22

I interpreted "pride", in Mark 7:20-23, as meaning "pride". A person can be proud; in fact, not only can people be proud, but people shall be proud, as 2 Timothy 3:2 indicates. 3:1 This know also: that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, without selfcontrol, fierce, despisers of those who are good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof. From such turn away. (2 Timothy 3:1-5)

My definition of Christian is basically the same as most commonly-accepted definitions of Christian, such as "a follower of Jesus Christ", "a believer in Christianity", and "an individual who seeks to live his or her life according to the principles and values taught by Jesus Christ". Jesus Christ taught that pride is an evil thing (Mark 7:20-23).

Christians are instructed to "Abstain from all appearance of evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:21 (KJV)).

Does your definition of Christian include someone who endorses, supports, and/or celebrates an evil thing?

You seem to be using some different definition for Christian. For my definition of a Christian, a Christian is someone who does not endorse, support, and/or celebrate pride, given that the Greek word hyperēphania in Mark 7:22 has been translated in at least sixteen Bible translations as "pride", and given the other references to pride in various Bible translations. One of those Bible translations, the KJV translation, states: "And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man." (Mark 7:20-23, KJV)

You seem to be using some different definition for Christian. For my definition of a Christian, a Christian is someone who does not endorse, support, and/or celebrate pride, given that the Greek word hyperēphania in Mark 7:22 has been translated in at least sixteen Bible translations as "pride", and given the other references to pride in various Bible translations.

What I am getting at is this: Endorsing, supporting, and/or celebrating pride does not include Christians.

"City of Edmonton Senior Policy Advisor" Gibby Davis is quoted in this December 8th Edmonton Journal article.