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I was just coming back to this post, since I am the one who started it. Of course there are intrinsic differences between men and woman. Does anyone out there have brothers or sisters. I have a couple of each- how many times have you seen your brothers cry or become hurt by something or backdown, now ask the same questin about your sister(s). In my eperience, and in most experiences that I have seen or heard of women are usually more emotional, get hurt easier, not as driven for physical activity, often not as driven in general and are more sensitive and caring. Besides for the physical differences in strenrth that a man posseses, most men are by in large more driven to compete and rule and are more forcefull in expressing thier emotions and getting what they want or need. I mean how is this denyable and why in the hell did men rule society for all of civilization until the mid 21st century? Of course men have different goals and values or there would have always been more of an equal share of power and ability between the sexes over time. Isn't it just obvious to people that woman by in large just are not as harsh, forcefull and confrontational. Isn't it easy to recognize when a woman is trying to act bold or intimidating like they try to in the media- it is hilarious- watch fox news and look for Julie Vanderez, or Megan Kendall, or Kimberly Gilfoule (something like that). It is just so out of character and out of nature when these woman try to act hard, it really makes Fox News look ridiculous sometimes. When I really think about it, and my point of writing this was just to get reaction and see what other people thought about how the genders are perceived. I personally beleive it is just ignorant to think there are absolutely no intrinsic differences between males and females and they are exactly the same on the inside- it is just ridiculous. Feminists, the media, equal rights groups and other people hard pressed for equality amongst the genders have pressed this issue so much that it has made it rewarding, or more accepted for a woman to act like a man and acheive a career. Most of the women I know really just want to be happy, and almost all of them long for a signifigant other. To suggest that really what females want is to be independent and career oreinted just is not true-find a woman in her mid thirties or over and see how hard pressed she is to find a relationship on the average, then rethink what women really want. Our society has become so hard pressed and stressed about compitition and who is better and who is worse that we even managed to turn both genders in competing agaoinst eachother. The confuses notion that there is not difference between both genders has already led to a more people being single, a stressed relationship between the genders, more divorce, and more single parent households. Who knows what it will do in time

You guys are right, there is no such thing as feminism and woman never revolted because they did not want to stay at home any more. It never happened, all the suddent woman just appeared in the workforce. There are no woman organizations that say woman are still discriminated against and complain about how they do not have great oppurtunities, not a single one??? And there no bitter woman??? There I posted something that you guys beleive is true, maybe it will make you feel better. And Drea, I have read some of your other posts, one specifically when you said you had no reason to live, unless you could keep and raise your child. Above all else that is why women, and you are just plain have no substance and no rationale. If you can't find any reason to live accept the face that you brought a child into the world, and you are willing to kill yourself if it is taken away, you really do have problems, not me. Thats what hurts our country, woman bringing children into the world who are not ready to have them, and who only want them to make them feel more loved, or more important. Creating human life to fullfill your own needs is just sad and it is not responsable. Find some hobbies, or ways to increase your self asteem a little instead or relying on another life form for your sole existance. What else can I say??

Yes, of course all religions have a monopoly on, "truth," because every religion prides itself on obtaining some kind of truth that is universal in which mortals must look up too, thus making it a religion- which has to be supreme. All religions deal with some kind of obediance or aspect of repentance to have the name religion, which usually implies something greater than mortal experience, or something (someone) that has supreme ability or enlightment. That being said, all religions hold some individual or presence in high asteem that everyone must accept to be apart of the religion. Of course, christianity is no different, you must accept that Jesus is supreme and that he is the way to cleanse your heart from sin. Once you accept this and try to live the life he lived or follow the advice he gave you are accepted. That being said, Ghandi, or whoever does not accept it is not considered a Christian. It is not different from any other major religion. I mean if you don't beleive in the profit muhamad, can you be muslim??? It is about beleiving and accepting, and whoever beleives is promised acceptance no matter what kind of background they are from or what they have done in the past.

Thats true, the old testament does have its bulk of violence and revenge, often involving prophets or nations of people that disobeyed the lord. (as written in the bible) This often took place when people would disobey the Lord, opress the lords prophets, or falsely prophesy in the name of the lord, or opress the chosen people of the lord. However, when Jesus came he stood for the forgiveness of all sins, no matter what ethnicicy, background, or demographic people were from, and now matter how bad thier deeds, and christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus, and the fact that are men are guildty of sin, and are forgiven

To say that chirstiany and Islam are equally intolerant is just utterly irresponsable. In the New Testament, which Jesus came, hate was not preached not commanded like it is in the Quran. Men were taught to love eachother and respect each other-- take the Quran for instance Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loves not transgressors. And kill them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, kill them. Such is the reward of those who reject faith. But if they cease, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression. The prohibited month, for the prohibited month, and so for all things prohibited, there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. But fear Allah, and know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves Now, give me lines anything like this in the New Testament of the Bible, in which Jesus come to forgive mankind. ??????? There are not lines that promote this king of violence. Maybe, just maybe, that is why Islamic nations are still murdering, oppressing and oposing themselves and other nations, often on the ground that they are, "not beleivers." Saying christianing is not as tolerant as Islam, as just not factual.

Also, there are too many woman bringing children in the world because they, "feel unloved," or, "have no reason to live," which is utterly ridiculous. You do not create life to fullfill your self regarding your feelings or insecurities, you bring life into the world when you are ready and willing to love and provide for it. Bringing life into the world for the sake of fulling some aspect of yourself is selfish beyond measure

This is another example of one of the insane things that goes on in our society. Take the baby away from a woman before she raises him/her for four years in prison. Obviously, it is highly likely to have a negative effect on the kids. I am tired of woman using all means neccessary to have thier way regarding life they bring into the world. They need to become more responsable and use methods of birthcontrol that allow them to have babies when they are ready, instead of aborting them and bringing them into bad circumstances. Thier are too many sufficient ways of abortion to have unwanted children, and woman are way too irresponsable regarding the decicions they are allowed to make regarding thier children. It just blows my mind the way the world is

Yes, that would make me feel alot better about myself if I hit a woman or did some thing outragous and stupid like that, or not, I am not violent, nor would I ever be toward a woman. I stick to everything that I say on these threads, but I hold on to human dignity in the real world in physical up front contact. Yet, the fact is, half of the people on these pages don't engage my threads and just go off subject (as you just did) and try to be sarcastic or insulting, and cannot face themselves with the real issue of the decline in relationships, childrearing, stable married families, increased cohabition and the fact that woman always do think something is going against them. In reality, it is sad that a woman does not think raising a child is real work in our world and has to try and make themselves feel better by trying to climb the economic ladder with no regard to the consequences of thier actions, or what gets left behind. 25 years from now when the divorce rate is 65 percent, woman are opressed even more in society because the economy is tougher and is not going to slow down because of thier child rearing needs, there are fewer marriges in general because the overwealming prevelence of cohabition and non commited relationships, fewer kids are brought into the world and even fewer are cared for proberly and our society is falling apart due these reasons you will look back at this thread and think deeply about it and realize the true reasons behind it. I don't hate woman, I hate the fact that they don't know who they are and have been brainwashed by feminists and others into thinking they have to do every thing like a mna do be considered an equal. Think about it now days-define woman? = 5 different answers for every person, because nobody knows anymore.

Genius web-page Army Guy, just an absolute masterpiece! You site a couple of examples of a few woman who road into battle leading troops or participated in physical contact over hundreds of years- Now I am totally assured that woman Armies (as I said in my post implies GROUPS of woman) fighted consistently (REGULARLY, not one woman every two hundred years) throughout time. Citing a couple examples of ancient scripts that imply woman were used in battle and giving evidence that a couple woman participated in war over centuries is not a really eye opening or mind boggling, and doesen't mean much. Also, you diddn't even respond to half my post- and here are a couple of FACTS 1. Woman did rebel against society for jobs in the middle of the twentieth centruy because they were not happy at home 2. Many womans groups and organizations do still press the issue and cry "discrimination" to the fact that woman aren't represented in large numbers in the most prestigous careers and don't get paid equal money for their work 3. Many woman are bitter against men because of thier failed relationships, otherwise you would not have a prestigous New York times colonist, Mareen Dowd writing best selling novels like, "Are Men Nececary." Who do you think the book sold millions of copies too? Men? All these facts lead to my conclusion with is true, woman always want something they don't have and tend to often blame men for thier short commings. (as I listed in examples above) It is not mens fault that woman are not at the highest levels in careers, its called work ethic. It is not mens fault that they get paid 20 percent less on average, its called dedication and working more than forty hours a week. And when woman hit thier thirties and are still single, it is not men's fault Any way, I am somewhat against woman in general, becasue I just don't think they are as good hearted as men. I cannot tell you how many times I have had a class in or been in public in which woman are openly talking behind peoples backs, trying to draw attention to themselves, or just acting like idiots. Woman don't act respectfully often, and they should be treated that way. I want an honest answer from people on this page- Who is more likely to be fake and try and minipulate a situation or make someone look bad behind thier back? A man or a woman? Enough said....

I agree with most of the major ideas in these posts, and think that Slavic 44 is really accurate in what he is saying, it just is a little general. Consumption does motivate our society extremely too much, especiallly amongst adults, and that is leading to adults putting their personal needs and desires before thier kids. This is primarily casued by the need to consume and compete in how one looks, or how someone perceives them to look regarding money, prestige, physical attractiveness, ect. This post was talking about Canada origianally, but the problem is worse in U.S probabably. The fact is, people now days are driven to compete- schools are more competitive, finding a partner is more competive, for gods sake, just getting respected is competitive. Obviously this drives and stresses our every day lives, and sometimes over-welms who we really are. I am not tying to sound like a philosopher, but I beleive at the core of most human hearts is the need to love and be loved, and to respect others and be respected. These basic human needs have become so clouded in personal judgements, body image and other shallow and unfulfillling ideas that it makes it hard to be satisfied with ones self. We should place our value of eachother, and of ourselves on how we treat our family, freinds, and peers. To put it simply, we as people should respect eachother's hearts more than the house, car, clothing or other body image that we desire.

I don't understand why some people can't comprehend the fact that some sterotypes are very accurate specifically, Army Guy Woman are biologically 60% as as strong as men ( sorry, thats a fact, if you want to argue find me any reliable evidence that proves otherwise) Men and woman compete seperately in most sports, if they were equal they would compete together- Can woman jump like men? (what woman have you seen in basketball do anything besided a week one handed dunk-360, windmill, take off from the free- throw line, under the legs, Which ones?) Males hold record times in any track and field event- (if anyone has evidence prove me wrong) Is it males or females who have been fighting wars up until recently (even though some positions are still restricted from them). Technology has made it more possible for females to participate, but give me reliable examples of armies of woman who were powerful forces in history when wars were fought in more of a hand-to-hand manner. For gods sake, don't say Joan of Ark, the only example that is really legit. Fact is, on average males are physically superior, therefore should be allowed to take part more in activities which are heavily physically burdensome, thats just fact If females were physically, or mentally superior they would have been ruleing society for the last couple centuries instead of males- Why can't people recognize this Last fact, woman will always complain about something. Weather they are not getting paid for equal work, not getting opportunites in the work-place, bitter single and desperate, not getting represented proportionately in the most prestigous jobs, nor getting enough attention, not getting paid enough for maternity leave, claiming guys don't pull thier wait around the house ect, ect, ect, ect, ect. When woman did not have jobs, they became desperate for jobs, when woman don't have equal pay or are not represented at the highest levels of the workforce they cry "Discrimination," when woman do get jobs they cry, "men are intimidated by woman with high earning potential," because they are bitter and single,- CONCLUSION- woman will always complain about not having something because they cannot acheive what a man can acheive and be satisfied with who they are- they will never get there way because their way changes whenever they cannot acheive something and then blame someone or something for it- That sounds like womans history in the last sixty years now doesen't it????

Ha, Ha, Army guy?? I can tell from your diction, word choice, and language that you are female. No male names himself Army Guy, the guy part obviously being put in there because you want people to beleive you are a man, evern though your posts make it aparent you are not. Have some dignity, at least for yourself enough to admit what sex you are. Enough said... just to prove it, I bet you cannot put a post up displaying your knowledge on sports in depth- for instance the mens NCAA torunament- actually explain to me how the game of football is played specifically- I already know you are a female, so I know most females don't know much about football, lets see if you can do it.

The time is hear now, when woman are judged and prepared to do the best they can at what ever they choose to do, however it is obvious now that they have to compete with men. I just boggles my mind how people don't recognize this. Ex.. If you are going to go into battle, or do any other physical activities with men, you whould have to be at least eual to them in strenth, athletic ability, and other aspects of perfermance, if you are not up to par than you are going to be left behind. Woman are the ones that want to be equal, so that means you are going to be forced to perform on the same level, that should be obvious to people. When graduate schools, law schools, or medical schools accept people, do they only campare female applicants to female applicants, or male applicants to male applicants? Of course not, every thing is compared equally, thats how it is and should be with any activity men and woman choose to participate in - job, army, sports, school... anything. Thats why it gets on my nerves so bad when woman wine and complain about wanting something to be easier (military training, jobs, maternity leave benifits, choices in some legal situations like abortion or anything else), if you wanted to be treated equally then you have to be equal on every level to get oppurtunities, why is that so hard for people to understand. Thats why, i really think woman should just stay at home (expecially when it comes to anything physical) they are not as strong and athletic as a guys, they get thier feelings hurt easier, they cry when they get mad, they gossip and talk behind people's backs like its nothing- and thats why they did stay up home up until the middle of the twentieth century. One day they people may start attempting to figure this out.

Actually, I do agree, if a woman can do more or is more capable (physically, and mentally) then by all means she should be able to be a soldier or engage in combat, even before men. But I know for a fact is is rare, if not exteinct for a woman to be just more capable than a man physically. It is medically proven, that on average a woman only has 60 percent as strong as a man. Thats why men and woman compete on seperate terms in pretty much all physical activities (as I already mentioned) ex weight lifting, footbal, basketball, baseball ect. I mean I work out in a co ed enviornment, so forgive my for my policial incorectness, but most woman are far weaker than men.

Our society, and gener relationships, have gone or are going to hell. It is already proven in the divorce rates and the deline in marrying and increase in marrying age.

I was reading a couple of articles online that was talking about weather or not woman should be able to serve in combat in the military. Suprising there are alot of people (most all female) who actually think that woman should be able to be in direct combat in the military and who want to see this happen. Ok, woman have come along way in terms of thier career success, ect, but men are still just bigger, stronger, and more athletic than the average woman. Are there woman football, basketball, baseball, or wrestlers who go against men on the college level? Of course not, that is for a reason. I realize that woman want to be treated equally and want respect, but sooner or later they all there accusations and rebellions that they are equal or more superior at everything is going to come crashing down on them and turn men bitter against them. I mean woman were made a little smaller, a litte sweeter, and a little more sensitive for a reason, it just boggles my mind that so many of them think that they should be a total equal of a man, and then when there expectations fail, blame men for treating them bad. (article I read online about how the firt woman filed a lawsuit to enter the Citadel, and then almost collapsed and died when she had to train with men, literally almost died, and then she says-the guys will too hard on me-you are the one who filed the lawsuit and wanted it in the first place!!!) Ok, the point is this, if you want so bad to be equal to a man, then you are sooner or later going to be treated like a man. Men, hit men, men argue with men, men scream at other men, do woman really wanted to be treated like this? In ten years feminists will probably try to overule the law that prohibits men from sexually assulting woman, saying that they are the same and that they should be allowed to hit eachother. I just don't understand, relationships and marriage had already declined because of the tension between the genders, and one day it is literally going to go far and there will be woman getting beat up and disrespected all the time everywhere. Its just out of my soul to see the way some people view gender, like there is no difference, not even in obvious physical attributes that everyone can see like size, strenght and athletic ability. If there was not meant to be a difference in gender, god would have created man and then stopped, never making eve out of his rib. I know this sounds humerous, but I am just trying to look out for society in 30 years. I mean what compelled woman to not change for the first 350 years of civilization. I saw this girl crying at a bar a couple nights ago after her boyfreind screamed her down. I didn't know if I should feel sorry for her and have compassion, or feel like thats the way woman should and want to be treated? ALL thee issues really are influencing our society as we speak

"mistakes" (as some would call them) that youth make in thier lifetime is what leads to these trends in our society. Fifty or sixty years ago college was not as demanding, getting a career- med school, law school, grad school was not even compararble in compitition, and it was much easier to stay in the middle class. Example- my dad had a 2.2 when he was in college and got into a decent law school in practicing at a nice firm. My brother had a 3.7 and a good LSAT score and could barely get into OLE MISS law school. Our youth can't affort do make the mistakes they did fifty years ago, our econonmy has gotten tougher, and our society is more demanding, especially school. People just can't act and do whatever the hell they want to in college and end up in well to do jobs, and in great families ecccttt. People are slowly finding this out. Lests all face it, every year it is becoming harder to survive in our society

The United States has approximately 9.8 million single mothers and 2.1 million single dads.4 Only 74% of white children, 36% of black children and 64% of Hispanic children live in two-parent households.5 Fifty percent of all white children and 75% of all black children will spend at least part of their childhood living only with their mothers.6 In 1998, single parent households comprised 27% of households with children, up from 24% in 1990 and 11% in 1970.7 http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA339.html It may not be exactly one third of households who are led by mothers at all times, but the percentages are climbing every year, and the way our society is going, I can garentee you by 2025 at least 1/3 will be led by single mothers. If you think about the issue and look around you and tune into the media it is obvious

To be honest, Islam is seen as almost a joke in many people's eyes. I mean nations (Iran, Iraq) whom are primarily Muslims are constantly opressing, murdering and hating eachoether, while maganging to reach out and even harm other nations. Weather they are blowing up other christians, blowing up themselves along with others, opressing themselves into the ground, ecccttt.. and then going crazy when a Dutch paper makes a lighthearted remark about the prophet Muhamad, in essence, it all really is a joke. I mean, its the 21st centruy, alot of Muslims need to realize that

Drea, I have probably spent more time analyzing our society, and how we as people interact than you have thinking about your own soul. I may be young, but I have opened my eyes and seen what is going on in our society. I know too many girls that are dating, and almost in love with guys who don't even care about them and are cheating on them. Girls are gullable, and are a terrible judge of character. I have this one freind of mine who is a big nice looking guy who has a girl freind and goes out and hooks up with a different girl every night. His girlfreind doesn't know, and doesent think outside the box enough to realize it. Do you realize how much this kind of stuff goes on. I garentee you if you talked to any pro athlete, rock star, or anyone famous he would tell you he cheats on his girlfreind, if he even had one. Can't you see that females cling to money, fame, or a man that has prestige. There are millions of examples of this, for onem I have a freind who plays football at my University (South Eastern Confrence) and he hooks up and has sex with girls all the time. I have met some of these girls, and half of them literally think that he is their boy freind? They don't have the sense to know that girls just throw themselves at him because he is a starting college athlete. I know this other guy who is freinds with a guy who is in a popular local band, (big band) he told me that the lead singer of the band has girls waiting in line to hook up with him after his shows. I know way too many girls out there who really don't even know their own boyfreind, nor themselves well enough to give a striaght judgement call on the guy that there are in a relationship with, and it really is sad. Why do you think at least a third of houselhods in the U.S. are led by single mothers. Guess, what, they probably had sex and got into a relationship with a guy they barely knew, its sad, but it happens all the time. Think about any really famous guy, and then think about the way alot of women just throw themselves at him, how do you think he is going to treat women when he recognizes this?????? think about it. If guys know that they can easily have sex with most girls, do you think he is going to really commit to a relationship. If girls only knew ho a mans mind worked

I still hold to what I said about woman being gullable and a little irrational. I mean I have already quoted biblical scriptures that have said the exact same thing in earlier posts. ALso watch any reality t.v. show or just observe society as a whole and see how many woman are in relationships where they they think they are perfectly functional, and they are in "love," when half of the time they guy doesen't even care about them. I mean watch the real world, or road rules, or any other reality t.v. show and you can see that girls are always crying about some guy who, "said they loved her," or "really cared about her," or other things like this. Like, that show called the Gauntlet right now, watch how Jodie, randomly hooks up with guys than then thinks she's in love or something and crys(Alton, Mark). Or watch on the new real world, how one of those girls, especially the little skinny one (anarexic) is always crying about something. ALso, girls are desperate for attention, just go to any college bar or anything. I know that some people aready said this was, "flirty," or, "playing games," but there is a big difference between flirting, and being desperate and that line is crossed. And just look how sexually promisquous women are in our society, and the media, sex in the city, desperate housewives, graves anatomy, or anything else, I mean aren't women suppose to have a little bit of innocence to them and not just throw everything out there. And just think about all the books, and internet dating sites often but there to help a woman find a relationship. Most women do want a meaningful relationship otherwise they wouldn't think about, cry about, and dedicate so much of themselves to finding a partner. Everything in our society shows this side of them. I guess the other side of this is the fact, that maybe some people think there is nothing wrong with women being sexually promisquous and provocative and having affairs. As a man, I always did value a little purity and innoncence in a woman

I think that what you siad is really why I think about these issues of gender today. I also beleive, that at a woman's heart (even though some don't admit it) she wants to have a husband to support her and a children, however I think men are more independent and content for one night stands and hook ups. When you try to rationalize all this in our society, or any society, really nothing makes pure sense. There are millions of woman out there that can support themselves and do fine alone, but most seem so desperate for a relationship, and/ or a husband, and alot of the time they don't seem like women who are emotionally needy or lonely. I also beleive, that feminism really warped the mind of alot of women, I think millions of women were perfectly happy raising thier family, and a small group of voices overwelmed them into thinking they were not doing real work. Men, I think usually just remain men, and not much is going to change them, they have always been the same and will be, while women change, adapt, and in my opinion never really know exactly who they are (some of them). I mean for billions of years, women's primary job has been to raise and take care of the family, this goes back to biblical times, and now they all the sudden out of now where are career minded? I think outside influence definately had something to do with that. I mean what history book before the 1950s depicted women wanting to be independent, support themselves, and take over society. Exactly, none. I also feel this out of women's nature, they are so indecisive and gullable, that their core heart's desires are often hard to get at. same as other thread

I think that what you siad is really why I think about these issues of gender today. I also beleive, that at a woman's heart (even though some don't admit it) she wants to have a husband to support her and a children, however I think men are more independent and content for one night stands and hook ups. When you try to rationalize all this in our society, or any society, really nothing makes pure sense. There are millions of woman out there that can support themselves and do fine alone, but most seem so desperate for a relationship, and/ or a husband, and alot of the time they don't seem like women who are emotionally needy or lonely. I also beleive, that feminism really warped the mind of alot of women, I think millions of women were perfectly happy raising thier family, and a small group of voices overwelmed them into thinking they were not doing real work. Men, I think usually just remain men, and not much is going to change them, they have always been the same and will be, while women change, adapt, and in my opinion never really know exactly who they are (some of them). I mean for billions of years, women's primary job has been to raise and take care of the family, this goes back to biblical times, and now they all the sudden out of now where are career minded? I think outside influence definately had something to do with that. I mean what history book before the 1950s depicted women wanting to be independent, support themselves, and take over society. Exactly, none. I also feel this out of women's nature, they are so indecisive and gullable, that their core heart's desires are often hard to get at.

It is true that some woman are better at certain things than men, and vise versa. I also agree, that if you realistically look at the entire picture you will see that it is still a male dominated society. I am not trying to be sexist, but just think abou it. Only 17 percent of big law firms are female, only like 256 of congress are women, and only like 17 out of a hundred of the senate is female. ALso, just look at politics and see who the really serious candidates are for the next election, and you will see that most of them are male. ALso, large buissnesses, fortune five hundre companies ect.. are still dominated by males (few are female). And, even though medical schools are now fifty percent female, most females go into fields such as pediatrics, obstetrics, gynecology and primary care, which are the lower paying medical fields. While also 45 percent of female docotor are married to male doctors, which often means they can affort to work part time, or not work at all. Also, having gone to the doctor a number of times, when is the last time you remember a female docotr owning her own clinic, most choose to work in groups, work for the poor, or just work flexibal and non sternous hours. In my opinion, over the feminist revolution hurt females. Even though they have come miles in terms of what jobs they can get, it is still harder for them to obtain the highest positions for some reason. And the backlash to this is that less of them get married (some might not want to), marriage is less common, divorce is more prevelent, and relationships aren't always is satisfying. I am not seeing women working is the only reason for this, I am just saying that it is just common knowledge to know that a marriage or relationship is easier to sustain when one partner is working and the other is taking care of children, the home, or other domestic or personal needs

I was just thinking about the relationship between working and having a family in this country and I realized that there are so many unreal expectations that people have. I was sitting in this litte researuant about a week ago and I heard these girls talking about how thery are going to get married right out ot college to thier boyfreinds and start a family. It happens all the time. The fact is due to women working, our economy being not so great, living expenses being higher and the way our society been influenced by media, hollowywood, feminsim, and just the our generation changing there is so many unrealistic expectations. I just felt like telling these girls if they realized that the average marriage ocuurs at about the age of twenty seven, about fifty percent get divorce, one out of every three don't make it past five years, and still in many others, someone is cheating or someone is just unhappy. Sometimes I feel like I am the only young person (22) who thinks about these things. I mean so many high school and college students have this romantic veiw of being married, and the women choosing when, how often, and if they want to work while still having a family. Sometimes I feel like shouting, "Its not that easy." Most famillies depend on a two salaries to sustain the family, and that is saying that you are able to sustain and enjoy a career. Even amongst very intellegent people I talk to, I still think so many people are just not in toon to the real word