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Logger guy

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  1. The wages of sin are death, and all have sinned, so all have been sentenced to death. It is often true though that one sentenced to death can appeal to the head of state, a governor, president or king for a pardon. In God's kingdom this would be God. Jesus gave his life to gain the privilege of becoming the advocate for those who follow His way. He has been granted a pardon for all who obey His commands. 1 john 2:1-6 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. But if anyone obeys his word, love for God is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did. Jesus commands of course are to care for the needy, and do unto others as you would have others do unto you.
  2. Of course He was chosen before the creation of the world, He was the creator of the world. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. Jesus was with man from the beginning. In john chapter 10:11-13 Jesus tells us that he is our protector “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. The hired hand is not the shepherd and does not own the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep. Jesus gave his life of his own free will to save his flock. Matthew 20:28 tells us "just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.” Jesus chose to give his life as a ransom to save all those who followed his urging to care for others, to feed the hungry, and help those in need. That was his choice.
  3. He expected better from his children. There was no death before man sinned against God. Jesus was sentenced to death by Pontius Pilate at the urging of the Jewish priesthood. I would not deny her anything, but the savior had to be unblemished and without sin. Eve was not. I would say that it is back on track. Not for me to say. I don't tell God how to be God.
  4. Of course Adam was not supposed to sin. God planted his garden, because he wanted to bring forth life. An enemy planted tares. This enemy was one of His helpers, who was not happy being a helper, but wanted to be like God. His disobedience was the first sin, and he tempted Eve with the promise that she would become like God as well. God provided man with everything that he needed, living in paradise with God, and was given a choice, gratitude and obedience, or jealousy and self serving. His poor choice necessitated the temporary separation from God, which ended with physical death. After that comes judgement and inclusion or exclusion from His kingdom. Basically those who work and play well with others are welcomed into Gods kingdom, those who care only for themselves are not.
  5. “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. The plants do not choose the gardener, the gardener chooses which plants to let grow, and which weeds to pull.
  6. Seems you are a bigger man than I assumed, which means that I am probably a smaller man than I assumed. You have earned a measure of respect . Regards Logger guy
  7. Wrong again. It was an enemy that planted the tares. You probably won’t find that on YouTube though.
  8. I see that building credibility is not all that important to you. You might want to be careful how you throw the word stupid around. In your case it seems a little like urinating into the wind.
  9. Of course Adam and Eve had a choice. God provided for all their needs and lived with them in paradise. All he asked in return is that they not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, because if they did, they would die. The deceiver told Eve that she would not die, and eating the fruit would make her like God. The choice was trusting God, and not facing death, or becoming like God and risking death. Of course knowing the difference between good and evil means that she was responsible to choose good. With responsibility comes accountability, or judgement. God left Eve alone with the deceiver, because she would not be free to disobey God if he was there watching, His absence meant that she could follow the desire of her heart. Of course Adam made the same choice, resulting in the separation of man and God, death and judgement.
  10. There are two types of people who like to call themselves christians. There are those who want to be godlike, and like to tell others how to live a godly life as well. They are quick to judge, and are quick to see sin in others, and proud of how they live a more righteous life. Those who judge others will be judged by the same standards. The others are those who want to be Christlike. They care for others, share with those in need, and are inclusive and accepting of their fellow man. Christ tells us to let god be god, and for us to do unto others as we would have others do unto us. Those who love and accept others will be loved and accepted as well.
  11. A rather vague unsupported characterization, probably the product of an unorganized juvenile mind who relies on YouTube for information, and doesn’t have the attention span or patience to actually read the bible.
  12. I am not surprised that you are so off target about John 12:39-40, it is better to actually read your bible than to YouTube it. John quotes Isaiah: He said, “Go and tell this people “Be ever hearing, but never understanding; be ever seeing, but never perceiving.’ Make the heart of this people calloused; make their ears dull and close their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears,understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed.” Then I said, “For how long, Lord?” And he answered: “Until the cities lie ruined and without inhabitant, until the houses are left deserted and the fields ruined. Isaiah is speaking of a specific group of people (the Jews) having their hearts hardened for a specific period of time ( until the great earthquake accompanying Jesus return as king) The setting for this passage, is Jesus coming to Jerusalem, and the impending crucifiction. Isaiah tells of a king born to the Jews who will set them free and rule forever: Isaiah 9:6&7: For to us a child is born, to us a son is given,and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end.He will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the Lord Almighty will accomplish this. The Jews are big fans of this coming Messiah who will free them from (roman) captivity and reign on David’s throne(Israel) forever. The setting for these events is descried in John 12John 12:9-12: Meanwhile a large crowd of Jews found out that Jesus was there and came, not only because of him but also to see Lazarus, whom he had raised from the dead. So the chief priests made plans to kill Lazarus as well, for on account of him many of the Jews were going over to Jesus and believing in him. The next day the great crowd that had come for the festival heard that Jesus was on his way to Jerusalem. They took palm branches and went out to meet him, shouting, “Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!” “Blessed is the king of Israel!” Jesus was their guy to oust the romans, and rule with justice and righteousness over Israel forever. Isaiah also told of a coming suffering servant. He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. Like one from whom people hide their faces he was despised, and we held him in low esteem. Surely he took up our pain and bore our suffering, yet we considered him punished by God, stricken by him, and afflicted. But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed. We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to our own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all. When Jesus told the crowd that he had come to fulfill this prophecy, and die for our sins the Jews did not want to hear this. John 12:34: The crowd spoke up, “We have heard from the Law that the Messiah will remain forever, so how can you say, ‘The Son of Man must be lifted up’? Who is this ‘Son of Man’?” John 12:37-42 Even after Jesus had performed so many signs in their presence, they still would not believe in him. This was to fulfill the word of Isaiah the prophet: “Lord, who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?” For this reason they could not believe, because, as Isaiah says elsewhere He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn—and I would heal them.” Isaiah said this because he saw Jesus’ glory and spoke about him. John:27-29:”Now my soul is troubled, and what shall I say? ‘Father, save me from this hour’? No, it was for this very reason I came to this hour. Father, glorify your name!” Then a voice came from heaven, “I have glorified it, and will glorify it again.” The crowd that was there and heard it said it had thundered; others said an angel had spoken to him. Of course seeing Jesus talk to God, and hearing God answer in a loud voice from heave May have changed their minds, but not the desire of their hearts. Their hearts were hardened so they would not try to stop Jesus from fulfilling his mission, and his death signified the end of God’s word coming from their profits, and now coming through the followers of Jesus.
  13. Lucky we aren’t’ a closed system, huh. In a few million years when temperature randomness becomes an issue, it will require a focused energy transfer of biblical proportions. I think I know the guy. Hope this puts your mind at ease. Vive la difference. I would wink back if I knew how to use emogies, so let’s just pretend I did.
  14. Tom Brady is not a goat, Paula Abdul is not a fox, and God isn’t limited to the parameters that you can wrap your little mind around,
  15. There is a song by blood sweat and tears that includes the words: I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hellSwear there ain't no heaven and I pray there ain't no hell You choose not to believe, that is okay. I choose to believe, that is okay too. Believe what you believe, live how you wish, have a happy life. I hope it ends well for you.
  16. Abraham Lincoln said “Better to remain silent, and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.”
  17. None of us were there to witness these things first hand. That is why we have the Bible, the word of God. Either you believe that the Bible is the word of God, and I have proved you wrong, or you do not believe, and are being deceitful, you choose. Pharaoh actually did have a free choice. Exodus tells us of the evil in Pharaoh's heart toward them. Exodus 1:8-11 Then a new king, to whom Joseph meant nothing, came to power in Egypt. “Look,” he said to his people, “the Israelites have become far too numerous for us. Come, we must deal shrewdly with them or they will become even more numerous and, if war breaks out, will join our enemies, fight against us and leave the country.” So they put slave masters over them to oppress them with forced labor, and they built Pithom and Rameses as store cities for Pharaoh. But the more they were oppressed, the more they multiplied and spread; so the Egyptians came to dread the Israelites and worked them ruthlessly. They made their lives bitter with harsh labor in brick and mortar and with all kinds of work in the fields; in all their harsh labor the Egyptians worked them ruthlessly. Exodus 1:22 Then Pharaoh gave this order to all his people: “Every Hebrew boy that is born you must throw into the Nile, but let every girl live.” God saved Moses from this infanticide, and sent him to free his people. God visited the plagues on Egypt, and pharaoh kept changing his mind between letting the people go or keeping them in slavery. We often change our minds, but seldom change our hearts. Exodus 12:29-33 At midnight the Lord struck down all the firstborn in Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn of the prisoner, who was in the dungeon, and the firstborn of all the livestock as well. Pharaoh and all his officials and all the Egyptians got up during the night, and there was loud wailing in Egypt, for there was not a house without someone dead. During the night Pharaoh summoned Moses and Aaron and said, “Up! Leave my people, you and the Israelites! Go, worship the Lord as you have requested. Take your flocks and herds, as you have said, and go. And also bless me.” The Egyptians urged the people to hurry and leave the country. “For otherwise,” they said, “we will all die!” The last plague was a return in kind for the killing of the Israeli male children. The Egyptians didn't let the Israelis go because the desire of their heart changed, but because they didn't want to die. Exodus 14:5&6 When the king of Egypt was told that the people had fled, Pharaoh and his officials changed their minds about them and said, “What have we done? We have let the Israelites go and have lost their services!” So he had his chariot made ready and took his army with him. He took six hundred of the best chariots, along with all the other chariots of Egypt, with officers over all of them. The Lord hardened the heart of Pharaoh king of Egypt, so that he pursued the Israelites, who were marching out boldly. The Egyptians—all Pharaoh’s horses and chariots, horsemen[ and troops—pursued the Israelites and overtook them as they camped by the sea near Pi Hahiroth, opposite Baal Zephon. The intent of pharaoh's heart never changed, when God hardened his heart it was so that events wouldn't change his mind, and he would follow his heart, his true free will, which was unchanging. God knew that Pharaoh would never let the Israelis live in peace, so He drowned the army to remove the threat of enslaving them again.
  18. I am assuming that you are referring to my post "People are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment Death is of course the end of our time of physical separation from God. The soul does not die, and we then come before Jesus to see if we are to dwell with him forever, or not." Hebrews 9:27 Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment. My statement that the soul does not die, and we come before Jesus to see if we are to dwell with him forever is confirmed in Luke 23. Luke 23:32 Two other men, both criminals, were also led out with him to be executed. When they came to the place called the Skull, they crucified him there, along with the criminals—one on his right, the other on his left. Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.”[ Luke 23:39-42 But the other criminal rebuked him. “Don’t you fear God,” he said, “since you are under the same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.” Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom. Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”
  19. People are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment Death is of course the end of our time of physical separation from God. The soul does not die, and we then come before Jesus to see if we are to dwell with him forever, or not.
  20. Matthew 25 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’ “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ Matthew 7 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ “Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: 25 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock. 26 “But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.”
  21. Once again you seem to have missed the obvious. My post was referring to a specific individual, a poster who is angry and disrespectful. One who spews hatred, and seems intent to drive a wedge between our savior and those he came to redeem. Jesus is of course inclusive, seeking those who will feed the hungry, and clothe the needy. Basically that which brings favour with the Lord can be typified by those things that make a good neighbour. He rejects the pharisees who judge others and pour out condemnation on others. For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted. Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let in those who wish to enter. I am thinking that, that one might have touched a nerve. Cowabunga Dude.
  22. as we near adulthood we go through our teen age years. For some there is a belief that they are now smarter than their parents. This is often accompanied by resentment at their parents for telling them what to do , ungratefullnesss for all they have done for them, and a lot of anger. does this sound like anybody you know?
  23. It seems you have missed the point. Salvation is not a matter of your religious belief, it is dependent on the life you lead.
  24. My father actually went overseas to fight Hitler’s genocide. You seem very focused on death. A garden is all about life, and God is tending his garden, and watching it bring forth life.
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