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I can prove they're losing members all over the world but there are a few more factors than it being solely because of the sex scandal..I'd be impressed if this were also happening in African countries but there are no stats on that http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/9885696 At the start of the last decade, millions of Brazilian Catholics joined flashy Pentecostal congregations expanding in the world's biggest Catholic country. Now, Brazil's Getulio Vargas Foundation finds, the country's Catholics are still leaving the church and at a higher rate than ever, but many younger parishioners, like Maragato, are simply becoming nonreligious. Mexico is poised to take Brazil's place as the world's top Catholic nation, although the church is also losing members there. According to Mexico's census, 84 percent of the population was Catholic in 2010, with the number dropping at a rate less than half of that in Brazil.

What I am trying to highlight is the result of saying no to a marriage that is setup by the parents in cultures where this is traditionally done Its easy enough to tell women being abused to go seek help but how many are too afraid to do so? We have programs for women who are getting beat up by their spouses but do we have any for women who are wanting to escape oppressive cultures that force marriages?

Here's an article on how the Irish are losing their Catholicism http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/02/26/how_ireland_lost_its_faith Here's an article on how religion may become extinct in Australia, Austria, Canada, the Czech Republic, Finland, Ireland, the Netherlands, New Zealand and Switzerland. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12811197

For US Catholic Church losing 1 out of 3. Protestants gain http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2011/04/30/catholic-church-losing-1-out-of-3-protestants-gain/ The Catholic church is losing huge numbers of members. If ex-Catholics were their own denomination, they would make up the third largest denomination in the United States, according to The National Catholic Reporter. http://ncronline.org/news/hidden-exodus-catholics-becoming-protestants

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Thats not the only story I have..I've heard all kinds, The Catholic church is losing loads of members all around the world because of the whole priest sex scandals

First I was Hitler now I'm Stalin ... who next?

You can't prove love but you could prove that you know each other enough to answer personal questions (questions would be fairly easy like what year was your spouse born, what colour is your spouses eyes, where was your spouse born, what is your spouses favourite food) simple questions that you'd answer right if you actually were with the person Don't they do that anyway for marriages which are thought to be visa or green card marriages? I know they do that in Britain I can bring up the Supreme Court case about Polygamy then ..The court found a man or woman should be free to marry multiple people but couldn't legalize it because of the abuse and underage arranged marriages in part due to its secretive controlling culture Underage marriage is already illegal, so why didn't they courts legalize polygamy then since forcing an underage girl is already legal?

A man I used to work with was Catholic..his wife became sick with Breast cancer (she survived) and he couldn't afford with to donate money every week so they took her off their prayer list That is an evil religion and I would not lose sleep over it being banned to be honest

Yes, they are, I've been implied and referred to as nasty things by a few posters because I want Middle Eastern people and Asians to leave their oppressive cultures at home and to adopt Canadian values I don't see what is so wrong about that

A program such as the one you suggested would put us on the right path.. I guess the only way to end this is to assimilate them to our society .. but how difficult will that be? Hope the next generation of Muslim Canadian men do not carry on the traditions ..I do not have much hope for that happening but it could

These women are afraid to say no to their parents because in these cultures that leads to tragic results for them I doubt many will go to the police and then lose their whole family...which is what concerns me..we need to make sure these parents know that this is unacceptable in Canada That is one concern I have

there are all kinds of help websites from ex JWs..all you'd need to do is read their stories..most of them are similar and tragic http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/phpBB3/index.php

I am for banning a controlling cult that does more harm than good

Then your Dad knows Yeah life is difficult but it DOESN'T have to be made difficult by differing opinions on religion So I propose the government stop this mental abuse Ban forced marriages

The whole religion of Jehovah Witnesses is insane..it should be illegal Until you lived as one for most of your life I don't think you'll understand just how controlling it is Shunning is barbaric ..I know all kinds of families separated and fractured due to Shunning including mine The point of shunning is to make you scared from leaving the organization ... so you will be unhappy about being a JW..still go to the meetings and everything and you really want to leave!!!!!!!!!!! but you cannot because your family will take it the wrong way and friends .. you're only supposed to shun disfellowshipped baptized witnesses but they'll shun you even if you aren't baptized ..it is all about control Its the same with Forced Marriages in other cultures .. if they do not adhere to their parents wishes the outcome will be ridiculously unpleasant for them...as if the parents are gonna go "oh, well, okay then! was worth a try" its abuse and nothing less

If anyone here understands how a controlling culture can take over your whole life and when you challenged it and eventually left you became isolated from everything and nearly everyone you once knew .. it is me Maybe that is why I am passionate about this ..I've lived in a controlling culture its you who doesn't understand because you haven't lived it

I will change it to forced marriages then

These women are victims of abuse .. you say all they have to do is go to the police and everything will be alright? Everything is not as black and white as you may think You do not understand how it feels for your family and friends to shun you like I do because of religion and the culture that came out of it you have no idea of the pain it has caused me and you have no idea of the pain it causes women to have their parents force them into marrying someone they do not want to but do it anyway otherwise they will be isolated and alone ..and even in danger You don't have a fricking clue, none of you do

Yes you can, the same way visa marriages are checked out ..which essentially they are fraud marriages because they do not marry for love of the person but for their money, family name, prestige Ask them questions about each other and decide if this is a REAL marriage or not ..if not the Marriage should be null void In fact I believe before you can get married you should answer certain questions about the person you intend on marrying

http://www.thestar.com/iphone/news/canada/article/726066 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2010/11/25/f-vp-fatah.html

No one buys it so no damage done Harpers smart enough to know not to go down the road of attacking abortion, gay marriage, and legalizing capital punishment Chretiens always full of hot air

PIK its because they are left wing ideologes

thats rich coming from someone who doesnt consider figure skating a sport

An arranged marriage is not a personal choice it is a choice made by the parents...