[Canadian Government must support the Women of Iran against the repressive Islamic Republic.]

IRGC operativeS in Canada.

https://globalnews.ca/news/10076891/iran-dissidents-threats-canada/

TRUDEAU OUT.. Trudeau is guilty for not listing murderous IRGC as terrorists.

[Who are the 500,000 immigrants headed to Canada? A look at the numbers (and the problem)]

59 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 

Further - there's no way to test that unless they're hooked up to a lie detector.  we screen for english but it's easy to test that - write something in english. We screen for skills but that's easy to test for.  Show us your transcripts.  We screen for criminal background but that's easy to test for - we contact the cops in tehir country.

But - this is all just opinon. So ... how long do you think it will take before anyone coming to canada learns what the correct answers to all those questions are and just tells you what you want to hear?

So what's the point?

If you have better option then present it. 

Short of

Banning immigration regionaly (ban everyone from Islamic and African countries - not an option unless we wish to be taken to international courts of assume same level as Rhodezia.

Stop immigration all together - not an option. Study after study shows we need immigration to secure the well being of our aging population.

When you criticize suggestions you need to propose alternatives.

 

[Who are the 500,000 immigrants headed to Canada? A look at the numbers (and the problem)]

53 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Replacement rate equals the mortality rate.

 

Strange!!!!. I thought the birth rate would make up for mortality rate.

[Who are the 500,000 immigrants headed to Canada? A look at the numbers (and the problem)]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Well if you're saying that people must be compatible with our ethnicity (which is what culture is largely) then you are kind screening based on ethnicity.

Give me some examples of what specifically this screening would look like.  When we talk in generalities it could go either way, what specifically would you screen  for?

No ethnicity means ethnic origin or race unless my English is outdated.

I will screen out based on my responses to questions the same way that an interrigator can use his skills to investigate crimes.

Exanples - If from Middle East - how a certain religion was spread by peaceful means or force of invasion,

what do you think about women's choices on hijab or pre-marutal sex,

What do you think about clubs serving alcohol in your nrighborhood

What do you think about certain terrorist organizations by name.

I also look at physical looks and check their background thoroughly.

[Who are the 500,000 immigrants headed to Canada? A look at the numbers (and the problem)]

21 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Where did you get this number?

It would be 1/2 the replacement rate.

And where the replacement rate came from? 

If true then we need incentives within Canada for Canadians to have more children including huge tax incentives and family support programs.

[Who are the 500,000 immigrants headed to Canada? A look at the numbers (and the problem)]

11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Ahhh - so the number is based on racism.  Well...  fair enough i suppose.

but frankly that still doesn't make sense.  So - if we bring all 150 thousand from hijab friendly countries woudlnt' you have the same problem? There'd be fewer asians and fewer white immigrants, but probably a similar number of "hijabers"  and a corresponding number of weird husbands.

So it makes no sense ,

And 25 years ago is just a number you picked at random. Why not 24? Or 23? Or 30?   ANd how does 150 k  precisely solve the needs of immigration you mentioned as our people get older? Will that be enoogh? Why?

You're basing your numbers on your dislike for certain ethnicity and 'muh feels' and that just doesn't work.

Screening out based on compatibility is not racism. I didn't say screen out all Middle Easterns or all Africans or even all Muslims.

Yes I will have a problem because this means we didn't screen out based on compatibility. Is hijab a Canadian culture? Is it compatible?-. Hijab is a symbol of repression of women and is not compatible with Canadian culture.

No this is a lie. I never said screen out based on ethnicity.

[Should Hamas support rallies in Canada be stopped?]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You sure changed your tune.

I am not sure why you say that. That is why we debate here to change minds.

On my very first post on the day of Hamas attack, I said victory to Israel and I say the very same thing now. On the ceasefire when I asked for it, you said Hamas wants to use ceasefire to re-organize and then attack again. I was convinced so now I oppose it. So you would have preferred if I stubornly stuck to ceasefire now even though I was convinced it was not right just because at the beginning I said so?

[Who are the 500,000 immigrants headed to Canada? A look at the numbers (and the problem)]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah - that kind of sounds like the same lack of thinking as "we need half a million!!!! DERP!!!!"

How do you get to those numbers.  They make NO sense. And 'screen for compatability' sounds like those re-tarded 'morals tests' that truly stupid people put forward a decade or so ago.  We already use a points based system so we're already screening for 'compatibility'.   And what benefit do we get increasing the length of qualification?

I think we're done with just making shit up on the fly for immigration without thinking about it.  We need people who can actually sit back and come to some numbers that make sense, not just base immigration on 'muh feels'.

Canada needs immigrants to secure the future as population gets okder so zero immigration is not an option but withour swamping the country with people of different culturres too fast. 150,000 was the level 25 years ago and it was working and was reasonable. 25 years ago I didn't have to come across so many hijab wearing women with their weird looking husbands when I was walking in a Canadian shopping center.

as for screening for compatibility, immigration officers can be trained to screen out the undesirables. I don't need training. Put me in charge of screening out Middle Easterns.

[Should Hamas support rallies in Canada be stopped?]

No ceasefire till Hamas is completely destroyed.

VICTORY TO ISRAEL.

[Who are the 500,000 immigrants headed to Canada? A look at the numbers (and the problem)]

Unfortunately the PC record on immigration was only slightly better though the Liberal really screwed up.

What Canada needs is

To reduce immigration to 150,000 a year.

To screen out for compatibility.

Increase citizenship to 10 years from 3 years after landing and immediate deportation for any crime short of traffic violation during those 10 years including violent demonstration.

[If you keep bringing in Muslims, then you have to deal with the consequences.]

19 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

You shouldn't make the mistake of thinking certain behavior is acceptable just because you have examples of much worse behaviour.  Behaviour intended to demean or belittle women might not be up there with jail sentences for refusing to wear a veil, but that doesn't mean it's not worthy of censure.

I was just saying there are much more important risk factors in future for Canada unless we take action now. 

[If you keep bringing in Muslims, then you have to deal with the consequences.]

7 minutes ago, herbie said:

That you don't even know what it is, yet deny your comments are.

I told you being a Jew is not a race but is a choice therefore being against their way of thinking is not racism.

Does that help you understand?

What kind of stupid example is that? Yes being a Jew is a race and is not a choice. Being a Muslim is a choice and not a race. 

[If you keep bringing in Muslims, then you have to deal with the consequences.]

3 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Like western culture doesn't? 

Find me a commercial hit rap video without a woman having liquor poured out on her twerking booty?

Commercials telling women they are either too old, fat or too skinny with this fat acceptance movement.

Heck, they're even told men won't go near them if their cooch stinks. That s*** better be fresh. Buy Canesten now! 

Only Fans is glorified. Marriage and family vilified.

When you have to coin terms like slut shaming and slut walks, your society isn't a sparkling beacon of hope for women, either.

Such childish examples, You want to know what demeaning women is, then follow the news on Islamic states.

[If you keep bringing in Muslims, then you have to deal with the consequences.]

4 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

 

Of why I won't put that country on my travel plans. Confused as to what this has anything to do with Canada.

I really give up. It has become Mission Impossible to raise awareness. The debate is about opening the door on Muslim immigrants and its unsafe consequences for Canada. This means in future you may not need to travel there to be among them but they may be here among you. When you daughter dates her boyfriend or your girlfriend walks without what they regard as proper cover, then you will feel the consequences.

[If you keep bringing in Muslims, then you have to deal with the consequences.]

7 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Ummm…. You do know that we have a Constitution and laws that allow alcohol, don’t you?  It was religious Conservatives who banned alcohol in Canada.  That was overturned by secular law. 

Not sure if you read my post careful enough. I said if we continue to saturate our beautiful country with backward cultures then in future they will change the laws. Alcohol was one minor change but you focused and ignored on women hating laws.

[If you keep bringing in Muslims, then you have to deal with the consequences.]

48 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

What a muslim believes comes from Moses and your God, you may tell them they are wrong but not impose your view to them. They can believe and do  what they want as long as it is acceptable to the law.

Don't give me that nonsense. They beat up and kill teenage girls in Islamic republic or Afghanistan or Pakistan for refusing to wear hijab and I am supposed to accept and they can do what they believe and they want??!!!!. NO.  Not in Iran because Iran society unlike the other two shitholes is very advanced and the majority of people do not accept this and want that baxkward religion out of their lives and their country.

[If you keep bringing in Muslims, then you have to deal with the consequences.]

9 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Or tougher laws?

People have the freedom of religion in Canada. 

It being compatible or not, is irrelevant.

My wife's religious beliefs conflict with mine. It doesn't or shouldn't matter, as she doesn't break the law.

I don't see it as any different than for a Muslim or any other religion.

You do something illegal in Canada, and the full weight of the law should be applied.

Terrorism or any such violence should have zero tolerance behind it.

People tend to behave when they risk lengthy jail sentences or deportation for acting foolish.

Don't punish the majority because a minority is not fit to live in Canada.

Your logic would ban black people like me from travel, because some are so violent and extremist in their views, ignoring the vast majority are not, when considering the global population of black people.

You don't understand. If they form the government (which they usually do by force) they CHANGE the laws. 

Marrying under 18 was illegal in Iran before 1979. It is legal now over 12.

Forcing women to wear hijab was illegal before 1979. Now it is forced and the regime beats them up.

Divorce could be initiated by women but now only by men.

Alcohol and nightclubs were legal now they are illegal.

Division of heredity was equal now son gets most.

Many other examples.

[If you keep bringing in Muslims, then you have to deal with the consequences.]

16 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I can't imagine anyone seriously thinks the problem is Muslims.  The are about 1.5 billion of them.  If they were the problem, we'd all be in trouble.

That is because they are far away. But it is a fact andr reality that wherever they are a majority, that place is in problem. When they come to power usually through a coup and by force then they really mess up things.

Canadians don't have personal experience so they are totally unaware of this issue. And I am not surprised. My mission is to raise awareness.

[If you keep bringing in Muslims, then you have to deal with the consequences.]

6 minutes ago, herbie said:

insert any further opinion to follow and claim it's not racist

I told you being a Muslim is not a race but is a choice therefore being against their way of thinking is not racism. I  am not saying people of certain color or race should be banned. I am saying those whose behaviour is not culturally compatible with democratic values of Canada which stands for respect and equality for women, respect for other religions and respect for human rights must be screened out. That may include many Muslims but not all but also many social conservatives of all races. What is your problem of understanding my posts?

[If you keep bringing in Muslims, then you have to deal with the consequences.]

16 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Your laser focus on Islam is odd to me.  Why would we focus on a religion when it should be the views of the individual that needs to be scrutinized?

I don't understand what you are saying. Read the title of the thread again. Keep those who are women haters out of my country and my neighborhood. Keep the trash out regardless of religion.

[If you keep bringing in Muslims, then you have to deal with the consequences.]

1 minute ago, herbie said:

Oh yes. bring in the memory of the veterans who gave their lives to protect those who discriminate and exclude specific groups from their culture. Those WaffenSS deserve to be remembered.

Goes great with the predictable "I'm not the racist, you're the racist" response.

You are one of those who should have been screened out. You don't like it here GO BACK to the hell hole you come from. Call me racist. So be it. You are given a chance to share prosperity in this best country in the world and what you do is to lash back at the people who gave you that chance.

[If you keep bringing in Muslims, then you have to deal with the consequences.]

21 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Like some socially conservative Christian sects.  I hear you. We’re practically on the same side of the fence.  Maybe we should screen for social conservatives, not just Muslim social conservatives?  
 

 What could be more hateful than to tell a teen rape victim that they must give birth to their rapist’s child?  

The things is that when it comes to Muslims, the social conservatism is very high, includes almost every practising Muslim whereas when it comes to say Christianity, it is low not sure how low but likely a small minority.

What could be more hateful is to actually rape a teenage virgin the night before her excecution or rape and torture and kill her because she refused to wear the fu*cking Islamic hijab (Nika Shakarami in Islamic Republic).

Death to any religion which advocates hating women to this extend.

[If you keep bringing in Muslims, then you have to deal with the consequences.]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Are you going to try to tell us all that we can import large numbers of Palestinians here without facing an increased terrorist threat?

It is not Palestinian nationals you should focus on. There are some good Palestinians too though not that much but we can't ban all. We should screen much more the nationals from Muslim countries not just Palestinians and if we have to take Muslims then  take more culturally compatible Europeans or highly educated open minded progressive Muslims as rare as they are, they do exist,

[If you keep bringing in Muslims, then you have to deal with the consequences.]

29 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Social conservatives want to remove medical rights from women. 
 

We’ve seen on this site social conservatives calling for blasphemy laws. Christian social conservatives want Canada to regress to when things like the Sabbath were enforced by law.  That’s not very democratic, is it?
 

Social conservatives always respect other religions and secular values?

”Unless Canada turns back to God and obeys His Word as given in the Holy Bible, it will be destroyed.”  https://www.wordoflifeministry.ca/articles1/is-canada-a-christian-nation

I think you described every social conservative, not just Muslims.  

I did say in my posts these behaviours is not exclusive to Muslims but a good majority of Muslims in many Islamic countries.

By women haters I didn't mean medical rights for women. I meant those subhumans who force women to wear hijab or force them to stay home, not to get education, beat them if they disobey,.... people treat their pets much better than that.

44 minutes ago, Legato said:

Muslim is not a race.

It is a choice therefore it is not racism.

2 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

 

So what’s the problem:  Muslims, or social conservatives from any religion?

Both

[If you keep bringing in Muslims, then you have to deal with the consequences.]

53 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

 

Maybe the problem is being a social conservative, not the Muslim part?  Should Canada screen immigrants out for being socially conservative?  Might be a better strategy…

No. Potential candidates must be screened for being women haters, disrespectful of democratic values, disrespectful for other religions, disrespectful towards equality and human rights. Equality, respect for women, respect for religions and human rights does not exist in any religion which was spread by invasion, military conquer, dictatorship, and principal of which is inequality for women