"Shut up and fit in"

[AngusThermopyle]

Well this fellow is obviously already brain dead if he thinks not wearing a helmet on a bike is a good idea. As far as I'm concerned if some idiot decides he wants to risk serious head injuries by riding without the proper safety gear then he's more than welcome to do so.

Of course it does raise another question. If some don't have to wear a helmet then why should anyone at all?

[Hydraboss]

You don't have to wear a helmet.

Unless you're white and English speaking and Canadian.

Everyone else has some BS reason that they whine to the Human Rights Circus about and win. Laws in Canada only apply to certain people (certainly not muslims or sikhs). I find it amazing that these bronze-age cultures screw up their countries bad enough that they want to leave, and then come to Canada and try to start it all over again. Will this country never learn?

[guyser]

Everyone else has some BS reason that they whine to the Human Rights Circus about and win.

Oh did he win?

[Hydraboss]

Has there actually ever been a minority that complained to the Human Rights Circus and lost?

[Leafless]

Will this country never learn?

Appears not. In fact they encourage the volatility of majorities vs. minorities.

This will only disappear when the Liberals are gone forever.

[guyser]

Has there actually ever been a minority that complained to the Human Rights Circus and lost?

Dont know, I was asking if he won. Seems you knew, but I guess not.

[Hydraboss]

No I don't know. If you happen to stumble across it, post it (or in the "Zekes" thread).

Thanks.

[Argus]

How did Robert Pickton fall through the cracks?

Are you suggesting that because we have homegrown criminals and degenerates we should openly embrace foreign criminals and degenerates and allow them to come and live here?

[Argus]

How about those who are born here in Canada and refuse to embrace white culture ....where are you gonna send them ? Everyone regardless of language, religion, skin colour is equal in this land called Canada (once they have citizenship). Get off your high horse. Why is the onus on minorities to conform to your world view of trailer parks and Paris Hilton ? Why not the other way around? Afterall we are all equal.

I'm recalling an episode of All in the Family, when Archie and George Jefferson are confronting a new, would-be neighbour, a Puerto Rican. The Puerto Rican is indignant and say something to the effect that he is equal to Archie. Archie is astonished and says "Equal to me!?? You ain't even equal to him!" pointing at Jefferson.

All canadians (ie, those with a little piece of paper) are equal under the law. But there are canadians, and then Canadians.

[JB Globe]

The whining never ceases.

So someone wants to do something stupid and choose to wear a turban over a helmet - It's his choice.

Society hasn't collapsed since this law was introduced in BC, and it won't collapse in Ontario.

The way you people panic every time some news item about multiculturalism pops up makes me wonder how much exposure you've had in your life to people from different parts of the planet.

Ignorance breeds fear after all.

[Jerry J. Fortin]

The whining never ceases.

So someone wants to do something stupid and choose to wear a turban over a helmet - It's his choice.

Society hasn't collapsed since this law was introduced in BC, and it won't collapse in Ontario.

The way you people panic every time some news item about multiculturalism pops up makes me wonder how much exposure you've had in your life to people from different parts of the planet.

Ignorance breeds fear after all.

Fear also breeds insecurity. The government of a nation is responsible for the security of its citizens. With that in mind it is prudent to consider the wisdom of the multi-cultural concept we currently embrace. This concept is detracting from our own citizens in an effort to accommodate those not yet citizens. We are remaking our nation into an international melting pot that ignores the traditions and culture of our own Canadian heritage. We are experiencing the tyranny of the minority. The grand concept of the HRC's is serving the purpose of stripping our individual rights as citizens instead of protecting them.

This is our country, we are the citizens. How is it that we must change to suit another nations citizens? The citizens have the right to self determination, but the non-citizens of this nation do not and should not have the right to determine our fate. We have lost our way and have abandoned a level of discernment that provides us with a national identity. The only path left open to us is to preserve and protect the true rights of the individual. The government should not be allowed to make this decision for us. We need a constitutional reform that would serve the purpose of empowering the individual and restricting the power of the government.

[Hydraboss]

The whining never ceases.

So someone wants to do something stupid and choose to wear a turban over a helmet - It's his choice.

Society hasn't collapsed since this law was introduced in BC, and it won't collapse in Ontario.

The way you people panic every time some news item about multiculturalism pops up makes me wonder how much exposure you've had in your life to people from different parts of the planet.

Ignorance breeds fear after all.

First of all, do you mean a turban (instead of) a helmet, or a turban (over top) of a helmet? If it is the latter, you are misinformed. If it is the former, then read through the "Zekes" thread under Federal Politics.

As for people panicking because of the amount of exposure they've had to people from different parts of the planet...are you for real? Did you ever stop to think that the reason there is becoming a uproar about immigrants is because of the exposure they've had due to downplaying Canadian laws?

[Chilliwackian]

Oh, no! Someone exersizing free speech again. That can't be allowed. (Sarcasm) Here's why I think this PC stuff is completely insane: If I moved to India, didn't speak the language and wore my western clothes, what would happen to me? Why do we have to accomodate the immigrants over and over again? Why do we not have the right to critisize immigrants and thier practices in our own country? I'll bet if it was Muslims he was talking about, there wouldn't be a peep!

[Peter F]

Oh, no! Someone exersizing free speech again. That can't be allowed. (Sarcasm) Here's why I think this PC stuff is completely insane: If I moved to India, didn't speak the language and wore my western clothes, what would happen to me? Why do we have to accomodate the immigrants over and over again? Why do we not have the right to critisize immigrants and thier practices in our own country? I'll bet if it was Muslims he was talking about, there wouldn't be a peep!

Its truly awful to be criticized for criticizising. There should be a law....

[JB Globe]

We are remaking our nation into an international melting pot that ignores the traditions and culture of our own Canadian heritage.

How so?

We are experiencing the tyranny of the minority.

Really? How have you personallly been affected by this "tyranny?" - And if you're going to use a word like that, you'd better have a terrible, terrible example - otherwise you're just going to look like you're overreacting.

This is our country, we are the citizens.

When you say "our country" - who do you see as "one of us"? - Do descendents of Black Loyalists count? Chinese-Canadians whose families immigrated at the turn of the 19th century?

[JB Globe]

As for people panicking because of the amount of exposure they've had to people from different parts of the planet...are you for real?

Absolutely, there's a reason why the less interaction and exchange you have between yourself and people who are of a different ethnic background/religion/etc the more likely you are to regard said people in a negative light.

[JB Globe]

If I moved to India, didn't speak the language and wore my western clothes, what would happen to me?

Apples and oranges. India doesn't pretend to be an open society to all the world in terms of cultural accomodation.

On the other hand, we here in Canada claim to be open and accepting of all folks from around the world.

Why do we have to accomodate the immigrants over and over again?

Because we can't just talk the talk. If we claim to be open and accepting, our laws and society better reflect that, otherwise we'd be hypocrites.

[M.Dancer]

If I moved to India, didn't speak the language and wore my western clothes, what would happen to me?

Which Language?

Given that nearly every white collar worker in India wears western clothes, and given that English is still the lingua franca, associate language and the language of commerce, you could probably get a good job at a Dell call centre...

[guyser]

No I don't know. If you happen to stumble across it, post it (or in the "Zekes" thread).

Thanks.

He lost. It will be helmets for him, or no riding a motorcycle.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...80306.whelmet06

[Argus]

Absolutely, there's a reason why the less interaction and exchange you have between yourself and people who are of a different ethnic background/religion/etc the more likely you are to regard said people in a negative light.

In point of fact, the MORE interaction you have - if it's unpleasant - the more likely you are to regard people in a negative light.

As an example, there is a lot of anti-native racism out west and in towns which border native reserves, but far less elsewhere. There is far more anti-Asian racism in BC than in the Maritimes, far more anti-Black racism in Ontario than in BC.

[Moxie]

Well it's finally be discussed in the open now, heres an interesting article. Alloting money that benefits a small minority is pandering to those groups and is discrimination against the majority.

Link: http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/s....html?id=356483

Snippet: Mississauga Mayor Hazel McCallion criticized federal multicultural funding as dividing immigrants instead of uniting them, and called for better integration of newcomers.

"An awful lot of money is spent on multiculturalism and on keeping our immigrants separated rather than integrated," Ms. McCallion said in an interview."They've been given all kinds of money over the years to have their own organization, their own programs, and I think there should be more money spent on integration, in other words, encouraging them to get involved in all the organizations within a community like the service clubs and the sports groups."

Ms. McCallion said she knows the value of cultural groups and does not want to "cut off" their funding.

However, she argues in favour of stepping up outreach efforts that help integrate the growing number of new residents who are choosing to live in the cities outside of Toronto.

According to 2006 Census data, Peel and York regions

[DangerMouse]

In point of fact, the MORE interaction you have - if it's unpleasant - the more likely you are to regard people in a negative light.

As an example, there is a lot of anti-native racism out west and in towns which border native reserves, but far less elsewhere. There is far more anti-Asian racism in BC than in the Maritimes, far more anti-Black racism in Ontario than in BC.

This is so true! You should have seen when the Mohawk Crisis was happening. NASTY NASTY NASTY!! Then there was Gustafsen Lake and the fisheries stuff on the EastCoast. There was an elderly native guy hitching a ride to town one day and some middle-aged, whiteguy, screeched his tires, jumped out and started screaming at this guy over the Eastcoast fishery. What an idiot! Big tough guy at that! As for Bruce Allen, he needs to remember where his ancestors came from--Europe in a boat! If he doesn't like it here, in his own words: "Shut up or fit in!" There should be free-tickets to send all whiners back to Europe...

[Pliny]

In point of fact, the MORE interaction you have - if it's unpleasant - the more likely you are to regard people in a negative light.

As an example, there is a lot of anti-native racism out west and in towns which border native reserves, but far less elsewhere. There is far more anti-Asian racism in BC than in the Maritimes, far more anti-Black racism in Ontario than in BC.

I think the point between yourself and JBGlobe regarding racial or ethnic interaction is being a positive or negative experience is dependent entirely upon whether interactions are forced or voluntary.