jennie Posted August 31, 2007 Report Posted August 31, 2007 No, I think that analogy is stretching it, to be honest. The footballs did not have a flag plus a picture of Mohammed. The Saudi flag itself contains a quote from the Quran. I did not know this myself, since I did not even know the flag nor can I read Arabic, anyway. And as I understand it was sort of an international football with a collage of flags on it. One of them happened to be the Saudi flag. So basically you have flags on a football. One of which happens to the Saudi Flag with a quote from the Quran. I would not call this deliberate. If it were so, it would be very elaborately deliberate wouldn't it. But when something is very elaborately deliberate and so subtle, you are going to have a much harder job proving that. I don't buy it. Sorry. If you think the footballs were in bad taste, OK. But it wasn't deliberate. Rather than believe that it was some ploy to stir up chaos by having a the Saudi Flag placed on a ball with a sort of an international feel, I would just assume that maybe they were giving footballs to kids. Is that such a hard concept to accept? If the American flag was on a football/soccerball I don't think anyone would give a damn to be honest. As for provocation and being upset--mass crowds of people from some of those nations applauded 9/11. American flags have been burned and booed. Their own anthem has been booed at hockey games on our side of the border. In light of that I don't think Americans would worry about their flag being on a ball. The American anthem being booed by Canadians caused quite an incident as I recall. I think they WOULD care very much if a US flag was on a football being gleefully kicked around by Taliban. It is all a matter of context, isn't it? Quote If you are claiming a religious exemption from the hate law, please say so up front. If you have no religious exemption, please keep hateful thoughts to yourself. Thank you. MY Canada includes Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
White Doors Posted August 31, 2007 Report Posted August 31, 2007 The American anthem being booed by Canadians caused quite an incident as I recall.I think they WOULD care very much if a US flag was on a football being gleefully kicked around by Taliban. It is all a matter of context, isn't it? WTF? American flagfs are burned pretty much every day around the middle east. Who cares? They burn effigy's of Harper, Bush and Blair and no one bats an eye. you are correct in one thing, context is important. Look who get's upset and who doesn't. Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
jefferiah Posted August 31, 2007 Report Posted August 31, 2007 (edited) The American anthem being booed by Canadians caused quite an incident as I recall.I think they WOULD care very much if a US flag was on a football being gleefully kicked around by Taliban. Of course not. Flags on sports products are quite common. American Flag Soccer Ball American Flag Soccer Ball Product Details: Made from patented machine stitch technology soft touch composite PU cover. Laser holographic red/white/blue material. 1-Year unconditional guarantee against all defects. Available in size 3, 4 and 5 Price: $21.99 Buy Product Online | Visit Store Home and there is a nice picture of the ball on this link http://www.soccersaurus.com/browseproducts...occer-Ball.HTML Now if they make these balls it would have to be assumed that they will expect people to be kicking them. That would include prospective radical immigrants in the US who are free to purchase one. Kicking a ball with a flag on it or shooting a hockey puck with a maple leaf on it is not usually considered to be desecration. It is very common. http://www.epier.com/store/outpostflags/Ca...ry.asp?cat=5019 So therefore, I would say that this slight (a very slight "slight" mind you) was not an intentional one. On that last link you will see an Arab World soccer ball with flags of Arab countries. Now you make the comparison to Talibaners gleefully kicking an American flag soccer ball. Well since the product exists people have to assume that someone they don't like may end up kicking the ball. And even at that your comparison is off by a thousand miles. Because Americans are not gleefully kicking the Arab ball. They gave an Arab World ball to kids from the Arab world, which would be comparable to giving an American an American flag ball. Edited August 31, 2007 by jefferiah Quote "Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu
Argus Posted September 1, 2007 Report Posted September 1, 2007 It seems that Muslims are easily offended, I corrected the above for you. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted September 1, 2007 Report Posted September 1, 2007 So selling underwear with the Saudi flag on would be a non-floater then????? I think there was an American company making toilet paper with Mohamed's picture on it. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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