Freedom speaks English

[jbg]

Freedom speaks English

English language countries:

1. UK;
   
2. US;
   
3. Canada;
   
4. Australia;
   
5. New Zealand;
   
6. Barbados;
   
7. Jamaica;
   
8. Israel;
   
9. India;
   
10. Ireland;
    
11. Singapore;
    
12. Plenty more that have similar characteristics
    

Another particular language set of countries:

1. Saudi Arabia;
   
2. Syria;
   
3. Libya;
   
4. Algeria;
   
5. Sudan (northern two-thirds);
   
6. Plenty more, that won't let a small democracy live in peace in their region
   

Coincidence?

Edited August 18, 2007 by jbg

[marcinmoka]

Freedom speaks English

English language countries:

1. UK;

2. US;

3. Canada;

4. Australia;

5. New Zealand;

6. Barbados;

7. Jamaica;

8. Israel;

9. India;

10. Ireland;

11. Singapore;

12. Plenty more that have similar characteristics

Another particular language set of countries:

1. Saudi Arabia;

2. Syria;

3. Libya;

4. Algeria;

5. Sudan (northern two-thirds);

6. Plenty more, that won't let a small democracy live in peace in their region

Coincidence?

Stop the presses. You are right. The causation is clear as can be! Einsteins theory of relativity is so passe, the real equation for the foundation of our world is E{nglish} = (f)reedom.

Well, as long as we ignore Pakistan, Nigeria, Liberia, Uganda, Ghana, Rawanda......

P.S. What noun speaks Basque? Hebrew?

[jbg]

Stop the presses. You are right. The causation is clear as can be! Einsteins theory of relativity is so passe, the real equation for the foundation of our world is E{nglish} = (f)reedom.

Well, as long as we ignore Pakistan, Nigeria, Liberia, Uganda, Ghana, Rawanda......

P.S. What noun speaks Basque? Hebrew?

Pakistan and Nigeria have made strong attempts at electoral democracy. Never fully successful obviously. I don't know very much about the remaining countries.

[Higgly]

Yeah I'll bet everybody in Jamaica is just lovin' their freedom. Israel. You must be out of your mind. India. The country has 18 official languages. Singapore - ever heard of Mandarin? How about Bahasa Malay? Natch nobody in Saudi Arabia speaks English. What do you think Osama is so ticked off about? They speak English in the Philippines. That's why so many of them are being granted landed rights here. Why do you think they want to leave? It sure ain't because they feel free over there.

You really need to get out more JBG.

Edited August 18, 2007 by Higgly

[jdobbin]

Freedom speaks English

I'm not sure of your point. We should kill all non-English people because they threaten our freedom?

[jbg]

I'm not sure of your point. We should kill all non-English people because they threaten our freedom?

That goes on thread number 6191.

Yeah I'll bet everybody in Jamaica is just lovin' their freedom.

Beats the alternative, like Venezuela, chaos but no freedom.

Israel. You must be out of your mind.

More ad hominemm attacks?

India. The country has 18 official languages.

Singapore - ever heard of Mandarin? How about Bahasa Malay?

In both of those countries, English is the language used by the educated people, and is, as a practical matter, the unifying language.

Natch nobody in Saudi Arabia speaks English. What do you think Osama is so ticked off about?

That the Muslim world has been in decline for five hundred years, and is still medieval. I'm not sure that bothers him, but he's sure medieval in his mentality.

They speak English in the Philippines. That's why so many of them are being granted landed rights here. Why do you think they want to leave? It sure ain't because they feel free over there.

Because of the chaos caused by the Muslim insurrection.

You really need to get out more JBG.

Don't we all? I know I'll never change your mind. I'm using your posts as a counterpoint to speak with others who have a more open mind. Edited August 19, 2007 by jbg

[jdobbin]

That goes on thread number 6191.

Is that the thread the runs down German, French, Italian, Japanese and Korean languages?

[Guest coot]

This theory does not seem to be thought through very thoroughly, if at all. All you're doing is listing a few former colonies of the British Empire, some of whom happen to be successful democracies. This is supposed to prove that "Freedom = talking English?" What about the colonies that were less than successful in establishing democracy and freedom, like, oh, much of Africa? What about the many European countries that are perfect examples of freedom and have been for centuries--even more so than the U.S. when you consider they don't have warrantless surveillance programs? What about Japan? What about Quebec?

[jbg]

Is that the thread the runs down German, French, Italian, Japanese and Korean languages?

Your Afghanistan thread.

[jdobbin]

Your Afghanistan thread.

I can't recall you running down Germany. France, Italy, Japan and Korea there but if you say so.

[jbg]

This theory does not seem to be thought through very thoroughly, if at all. All you're doing is listing a few former colonies of the British Empire, some of whom happen to be successful democracies. This is supposed to prove that "Freedom = talking English?" What about the colonies that were less than successful in establishing democracy and freedom, like, oh, much of Africa? What about the many European countries that are perfect examples of freedom and have been for centuries--even more so than the U.S. when you consider they don't have warrantless surveillance programs? What about Japan? What about Quebec?

Read this Anglosphere Primer, upon which I base some of my thoughts. As far as Japan, it's effectively a one-party benevolent authoritarian country.Quebec? Is Sponsorship democracy at work? The US's "warrantless surveillance programs"? How else is the US to protect itself from a clandestine guerrilla war? Africa? Agreed, what has happened is a result of jamming incompatible tribes into "nation states" and allowing the leaders who get into power somehow to get themselves a hefty UN contribution.

[Guest coot]

Alberta is basically a one-party benevolent society too, but that doesn't mean they aren't free. Quebec is a free society too, and I don't see how the sponsorship program has affected that. Freedom means being able to go about your business without state intervention. Again, all of western Europe is free, and there are numerous languages throughout that region. Any state that spies on its citizens with no checks and balances to contain such a program is not, by definition, free, no matter how frightened they are of young men with boxcutters.

[jbg]

Alberta is basically a one-party benevolent society too, but that doesn't mean they aren't free.

But local government is quite different. Alberta is a province, not a nation. And it speaks English.

Quebec is a free society too, and I don't see how the sponsorship program has affected that. Freedom means being able to go about your business without state intervention.

Oh yes, someone being arrested for posting a sign saying "Bob's Radiator"? That's freedom? Language police and all?

Again, all of western Europe is free, and there are numerous languages throughout that region. Any state that spies o n its citizens with no checks and balances to contain such a program is not, by definition, free, no matter how frightened they are of young men with boxcutters.

Much of Western Europe has little economic freedom. That reinforces my point.

[ft.niagara]

I have a thoery that those who buy from the origional three NA car manufacturers are more patriotic, and conservative than those who buy foreign brand names. Of course I can not prove it, and I might be even wrong, but that is my thoery. If I had alot of time and money, I guess I could make psychological study (scientific) out of my thoery. Similarly, the thoery that English is the language of tolerance, scientific achievement, prosperity and good government is also probably a sound one. It would just take alot of time and money to try and prove it.

[Guest coot]

I have a theory that those who buy from the original three NA car manufacturers have no understanding of quality workmanship or good value.

[Guest coot]

That reinforces my point.

But you ignore the point that the U.S. has decided freedom is inconvenient, scary, and very September 10.

[jbg]

I have a theory that those who buy from the original three NA car manufacturers have no understanding of quality workmanship or good value.

One of the rare times you and I agree. FN was targeting me with that post.

[jbg]

But you ignore the point that the U.S. has decided freedom is inconvenient, scary, and very September 10.

The freedom to demolish structures with people inside is very September 10.

[ft.niagara]

I have a theory that those who buy from the original three NA car manufacturers have no understanding of quality workmanship or good value.

If my thoery holds, you are probably a liberal leaning, non patriotic minded yuppie who has never owned a NA manufactured car. Further, you undoubtedly do not comprehend how the purchase of big ticket items from foreign companies effects ultimately your countries balance of payments, and indirectly/directly your own job/income/opportunities.

I have only owned big three cars with one exception, an audi, the worst car I ever owned. I have gotten routinely well over ten years service and over 100000 miles out of every one.

[ft.niagara]

One of the rare times you and I agree. FN was targeting me with that post.

Really? You own a Jap car? I am sorry, I didn't know. I did say that your thoery about English and freedom/good government is probably valid. I think you just think I am always targeting you, which is not so.

[ft.niagara]

...the U.S. has decided freedom is inconvenient, scary, and very September 10.

The US is the boogie man. Man that is coot, I mean cool.

[jbg]

Really? You own a Jap car? I am sorry, I didn't know. I did say that your thoery about English and freedom/good government is probably valid. I think you just think I am always targeting you, which is not so.

I'm quite satisfied wtih my succession of Toyota Camrys. My wife is not so satisfied with her Mercury, nor with the Ford Taurus station wagons that preceded it. Granted, the Volvo station wagon in between is worse.

[buffycat]

I'm quite satisfied wtih my succession of Toyota Camrys. My wife is not so satisfied with her Mercury, nor with the Ford Taurus station wagons that preceded it. Granted, the Volvo station wagon in between is worse.

Morning jbg,

What year was your volvo wagon? Volvo IS Ford, since about '95 AFAIR. I currently looking for an older volvo wagon (pre 95) it's interesting that I can find tonnes of 'newer' volvos, but very few of the REAL older ones. Same thing happened to SAABs back in 91 - a black day for me...I loved my old 900Turbo *sigh*.

[margrace]

But local government is quite different. Alberta is a province, not a nation. And it speaks English.

Oh yes, someone being arrested for posting a sign saying "Bob's Radiator"? That's freedom? Language police and all?

Much of Western Europe has little economic freedom. That reinforces my point.

Economic freedom, is that the right to rape our environment?

[jbg]

Morning jbg,

What year was your volvo wagon? Volvo IS Ford, since about '95 AFAIR. I currently looking for an older volvo wagon (pre 95) it's interesting that I can find tonnes of 'newer' volvos, but very few of the REAL older ones. Same thing happened to SAABs back in 91 - a black day for me...I loved my old 900Turbo *sigh*.

Interesting. But my mother owned a 1977 Volvo, which was also a disaster mechanically. Just ask me. I was driving it on the Henry Hudson Parkway when it seized up and had to be towed to a dealership (about 6 months after purchase as a supposedly new car).