Leafless Posted August 2, 2007 Report Posted August 2, 2007 The provincial government has appointed a French-language services commissioner to hear complaints in cases where the government doesn't deliver services in French.Madeleine Meilleur, the minister responsible for francophone affairs, announced Wednesday that the first commissioner will be Franois Boileau, a lawyer currently working as counsel at the federal Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages. Oh great. Now we don't only have a federal language watchdog, now we have a provincial language watchdog with a budget of $800,000 Ontario tax dollars. Wonder no more why Ontario is losing its status as a leader in economic greatness with undemocratic actions such as this. But, but what about Quebec, don't they also have to be linguistically 'officially responsible with similar watchdogs over there? But wait. I forgot Quebec has declared itself 'officially French' so is immune from any sort of provincial English language impositions relating to the English language. This of course begs to answer the question, 'how the federal government can continue to promote Sec. 16(3) of the Charter which states " Nothing in this Charter limits the authority of parliament or a legislature to advance the equality of status or use of English OR French' especially when a minority language can declare itself provincially 'officially French' Is this not discriminating the national interest of Canada with this 'officially French' cop out. Is this new position created by Francophone Affairs under the direction of minister Madeleine Meilleur and Ontario provincial government not discriminate directly against Ontario residents who have no say in this undemocratic posting. http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/s...be93c61&k=15595 Quote
guyser Posted August 2, 2007 Report Posted August 2, 2007 What would a "democratic posting" consist of in your opinion ? Quote
Leafless Posted August 2, 2007 Author Report Posted August 2, 2007 What would a "democratic posting" consist of in your opinion ? I think Madeleine Meilleur is overstepping her authority of implementing this type of appointment without first determining democratically (via the will of Ontario tax payers) if a provincial language watchdog is even required in Ontario. IMO- She is not the federal government and is clearly discriminating against the people in the province of Ontario. Quote
guyser Posted August 2, 2007 Report Posted August 2, 2007 Allow me to re-state. How would Miss Meilleur go about "democratically" posting this new job, or even determining that it was needed? Quote
Leafless Posted August 2, 2007 Author Report Posted August 2, 2007 Allow me to re-state.How would Miss Meilleur go about "democratically" posting this new job, or even determining that it was needed? Actually guyser, it would be up to Ontario's Premier Dalton McGuinty to initiate a plebiscite on the issue, which he has failed to do. He has allowed Madeleine Meilleur to plow ahead with this undemocratic and hateful legislation. Looks like Ontario's provincial government is becoming more and more like Canada's undemocratic totalitarian federal government. Hope the tax payers of Ontario wake up before Ontario is faced with the status of a 'have not province'. Quote
guyser Posted August 2, 2007 Report Posted August 2, 2007 Actually guyser, it would be up to Ontario's Premier Dalton McGuinty to initiate a plebiscite on the issue, which he has failed to do. He has allowed Madeleine Meilleur to plow ahead with this undemocratic and hateful legislation. Ok , a plebiscite for a staffing position . I cant see having a plebiscite every time the gov's want to do anything as anything worthwhile considering the cost. Hope the tax payers of Ontario wake up before Ontario is faced with the status of a 'have not province'. Not a chance that will happen in your lifetime. No matter how poor canada becomes, Ont will still generate the most funds. Simple demographics. ( I suppose Oil could become $200 a BBL and make Alta the only out) Quote
Leafless Posted August 3, 2007 Author Report Posted August 3, 2007 Ok , a plebiscite for a staffing position . Ontario is not an officially bilingual province. McGuinty has no business allowing a French dictatorial minister who wants to impose the same type of language police as the federal government. Again Ontario is not an officially bilingual province and Liberal Premier Dalton Mcguinty has an obligation to present this issue in the way of a plebiscite to the tax payers of Ontario. I cant see having a plebiscite every time the gov's want to do anything as anything worthwhile considering the cost. "Anything worthwhile" Obviously you approve of Nazi type leadership. Not a chance that will happen in your lifetime. No matter how poor canada becomes, Ont will still generate the most funds. Simple demographics. Ontario barely hanging on to ‘have’ province status: report http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/sto...2a1894ff&k=7108 You are so uninformed and so arrogant with your replies I will be no longer be replying to any of your post. Quote
jefferiah Posted August 3, 2007 Report Posted August 3, 2007 Wow, that's unbelievable. Why would they employ this in Ontario which is mainly English? Is this woman from Quebec? There is a big push by Quebec politicians to promote french across the nation, even in the West, yet Quebec makes no effort to anglicize. I remember not so long ago that the Bloc Quebecois was complaining about certain press releases the Conservatives made which were not all available in both languages. The Conservatives said that you should be able to find the ones we failed to put in French, translated on our website. Meanwhile the Bloc does everything in French. And it does not seem to occur to them how hypocritical this all is. Quote "Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu
guyser Posted August 3, 2007 Report Posted August 3, 2007 Ok , a plebiscite for a staffing position . Ontario is not an officially bilingual province. Face it, if McQuinty wanted to hire a cleaner and they happened to be french, you would want a plebiscite on that too. If he wants to build an outhouse , plebiscite......we would go to the polls every morning, once at lunch and a stop off on the way home for another. Obviously you approve of Nazi type leadership. Oops , you lose, invoking the nazi cards means a loss every time. Not to mention of course the very silly and moronic suggestion that anything in this country is even near that. Not a chance that will happen in your lifetime. No matter how poor canada becomes, Ont will still generate the most funds. Simple demographics. Ontario barely hanging on to ‘have’ province status: report Yes I read that yesterday, but the point is, well we have lost some, we will not go below the ROC as we have too much money. It will stop flowing out. You are so uninformed and so arrogant with your replies I will be no longer be replying to any of your post. Yea yea, you said that awhile ago too. Dude, if you want to call anyone uninformed and arrogant, start with those who advocate the domination of "the white culture" along with those who BS us about Temple funds, along with people who change questions when the answer they seek is not available to them. Ok ok....just look in the mirror. Quote
Leafless Posted August 3, 2007 Author Report Posted August 3, 2007 Wow, that's unbelievable. Why would they employ this in Ontario which is mainly English? This is all connected to the 'French Languages Services Act' which stems from Charter rights relating to francophones. This ever expanding 'French Languages Services Act ' is responsible for the creation of the 'Office of Francophone Affairs' which is responsible for the creation of 'language cop' Franois Boileau, a lawyer currently working at the federal offices of the 'Commissioner of Official Languages'. http://www.ofa.gov.on.ca/english/about.html Is this woman from Quebec? Yes, she is from Kiamika, Quebec, a really small town, pop. 716. I understand she worked in Montreal before moving to Ontario and starting a career in Vanier, Ont. and working herself up to where she is now in Ontario Provincial Government as Minister of Francophone Affairs. There is a big push by Quebec politicians to promote french across the nation, even in the West, yet Quebec makes no effort to anglicize. This is nothing new, utilizing the 'notwithstanding clause' and renewing it every five years to keep French prominent on signs coupled with declaring themselves 'officially French ' effectively destroys any type of Quebec 'official bilingualism. http://www.unitednorthamerica.org/notwithstanding.htm I remember not so long ago that the Bloc Quebecois was complaining about certain press releases the Conservatives made which were not all available in both languages. The Conservatives said that you should be able to find the ones we failed to put in French, translated on our website. Meanwhile the Bloc does everything in French. And it does not seem to occur to them how hypocritical this all is. Agreed, with Quebec actually becoming more French every day, at the great expense of the Canadian taxpayer. Obviously what is happening in Ontario is to eventually make the province of Ontario, 'officially bilingual'. All this you can thank Mr. Mc.Guinty for who appears to be in bed with the Liberals and their French ideologies. Quote
jbg Posted August 4, 2007 Report Posted August 4, 2007 I think Madeleine Meilleur is overstepping her authority of implementing this type of appointment without first determining democratically (via the will of Ontario tax payers) if a provincial language watchdog is even required in Ontario. IMO- She is not the federal government and is clearly discriminating against the people in the province of Ontario. It distresses me how much people are willing to give up in the name of PC that they've worked hard for. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jefferiah Posted August 4, 2007 Report Posted August 4, 2007 And I am willing to wager that a good percentage of the complaints will be made by the sort that loves to complain. All it takes is one very very pro-French, Franco-purist to be miffed at something. For the most part, French and English people can get along and get by just fine, in spite a few slips in linguistic protocol from either side. But when it comes to people who are "politically" French or English, minor differences and little mistakes can become grounds for the most ridiculous complaints. Quote "Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu
Leafless Posted August 5, 2007 Author Report Posted August 5, 2007 It distresses me how much people are willing to give up in the name of PC that they've worked hard for. Are you referring to the actions of social anarchy led by corrupt, traitorous, undemocratic politicians as meaning(worked so hard for)? Quote
jbg Posted August 5, 2007 Report Posted August 5, 2007 Are you referring to the actions of social anarchy led by corrupt, traitorous, undemocratic politicians as meaning(worked so hard for)?No, I mean the hard work that went into building our countries. People are willing to give up the fruits of those labors in the name of PC. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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