jbg Posted June 28, 2007 Report Posted June 28, 2007 Re: patriotism in our respective countries, I had a most fascinating museum visit today, after Court. I had noticed yesterday, also after Court that the famous Fraunces Tavern in New York had a museum, with a minor admission charge. Today, since I wasn't parked at a meter I decided to check it out. Fraunces Tavern was a hotbed of revolutionary (i.e. anti-Brit) activity prior to the Revolutionary War. After the war, Washington gave his farewell address to his troops there, on Dec. 4, 1783. During the period NY was the capital of the United States, from 1885 to 1790, three of the four Cabinet ministries set up shop in upstairs rooms in the Tavern George Washington, during this period, made Samuel Fraunces his personal chef. They had a brief falling out but when they made up he went with Washington to Philadelphia to be his chef there. What was especially stirring as that a group of high school students (quite obviously honors level) came through for a tour. They seemed genuinely interested in what they saw. The reason I headed this with "re: patriotism" is the focus, throughout the land, on very small, but telling, glimpses of our revolutionary heritage. I wonder if Charlottetown has similar displays, or is it all in the centralized, government run museum? Similarly, say, in the Winnipeg area are there small, spontaneously set up exhibits, say, about Louis Riel's stiff neck or the Icelandic or Ukranian history or heritage? Or in other areas, displays about the building of the Railroad, or other great accomplishments? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jdobbin Posted June 28, 2007 Report Posted June 28, 2007 The reason I headed this with "re: patriotism" is the focus, throughout the land, on very small, but telling, glimpses of our revolutionary heritage. I wonder if Charlottetown has similar displays, or is it all in the centralized, government run museum? Similarly, say, in the Winnipeg area are there small, spontaneously set up exhibits, say, about Louis Riel's stiff neck or the Icelandic or Ukranian history or heritage? Or in other areas, displays about the building of the Railroad, or other great accomplishments? Winnipeg's list of museums. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnipeg_Arts_and_Culture That's over 30. Quote
jbg Posted June 28, 2007 Author Report Posted June 28, 2007 The reason I headed this with "re: patriotism" is the focus, throughout the land, on very small, but telling, glimpses of our revolutionary heritage. I wonder if Charlottetown has similar displays, or is it all in the centralized, government run museum? Similarly, say, in the Winnipeg area are there small, spontaneously set up exhibits, say, about Louis Riel's stiff neck or the Icelandic or Ukranian history or heritage? Or in other areas, displays about the building of the Railroad, or other great accomplishments? Winnipeg's list of museums. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnipeg_Arts_and_Culture That's over 30. Thanks. Not as many as New York, but New Yorkers are always very proud of their city. Ever hear of the "New Yorker" poster? This one has New York City dominating 3/4 of the picture, and the map of the rest of the US squeezed into the rest of it. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
M.Dancer Posted June 28, 2007 Report Posted June 28, 2007 The reason I headed this with "re: patriotism" is the focus, throughout the land, on very small, but telling, glimpses of our revolutionary heritage. I wonder if Charlottetown has similar displays, or is it all in the centralized, government run museum? Similarly, say, in the Winnipeg area are there small, spontaneously set up exhibits, say, about Louis Riel's stiff neck or the Icelandic or Ukranian history or heritage? Or in other areas, displays about the building of the Railroad, or other great accomplishments? Winnipeg's list of museums. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnipeg_Arts_and_Culture That's over 30. Thanks. Not as many as New York, but New Yorkers are always very proud of their city. Ever hear of the "New Yorker" poster? This one has New York City dominating 3/4 of the picture, and the map of the rest of the US squeezed into the rest of it. I've been to Manhatten...is it near New York? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Mad_Michael Posted June 28, 2007 Report Posted June 28, 2007 Re: patriotism in our respective countries, I had a most fascinating museum visit today, after Court. I had noticed yesterday, also after Court that the famous Fraunces Tavern in New York had a museum, with a minor admission charge. Today, since I wasn't parked at a meter I decided to check it out. Fraunces Tavern was a hotbed of revolutionary (i.e. anti-Brit) activity prior to the Revolutionary War. After the war, Washington gave his farewell address to his troops there, on Dec. 4, 1783. During the period NY was the capital of the United States, from 1885 to 1790, three of the four Cabinet ministries set up shop in upstairs rooms in the Tavern George Washington, during this period, made Samuel Fraunces his personal chef. They had a brief falling out but when they made up he went with Washington to Philadelphia to be his chef there. What was especially stirring as that a group of high school students (quite obviously honors level) came through for a tour. They seemed genuinely interested in what they saw. The reason I headed this with "re: patriotism" is the focus, throughout the land, on very small, but telling, glimpses of our revolutionary heritage. I wonder if Charlottetown has similar displays, or is it all in the centralized, government run museum? Similarly, say, in the Winnipeg area are there small, spontaneously set up exhibits, say, about Louis Riel's stiff neck or the Icelandic or Ukranian history or heritage? Or in other areas, displays about the building of the Railroad, or other great accomplishments? Interesting post. However, I don't think you will find anything of a similar character in Charlottetown (though I'll check at the end of August when I visit the place). That's just where they signed the deed and posed for the pictures. For all intents and purposes, the 'idea' of Canada was apparently born in London England (with Lord Durham serving as the midwife). Quote
weaponeer Posted July 9, 2007 Report Posted July 9, 2007 And hopefully one day we will be a real country, with our own elected Canadian head of state, and an elected senate...... Quote
Mad_Michael Posted July 9, 2007 Report Posted July 9, 2007 And hopefully one day we will be a real country, with our own elected Canadian head of state, and an elected senate...... Good gosh. If you think electing Presidents is as fun as electing a Senate, move the USA. Canada is a wonderful country. Turning it into the USA is not a good plan. Quote
jbg Posted July 10, 2007 Author Report Posted July 10, 2007 (edited) And hopefully one day we will be a real country, with our own elected Canadian head of state, and an elected senate...... Good gosh. If you think electing Presidents is as fun as electing a Senate, move the USA. Canada is a wonderful country. Turning it into the USA is not a good plan. Mad_Michael, as much as I hate to say it, again we agree. A lot of the "US envy" is really "grass is greener". A quick "reverse example". In 1974, the US was in hysterics over Watergate. Nixon, who had been politically crippled since almost the beginning of 1973, was still hanging on. Many thought that TrueDope's engineered "no-confidence" vote was the true functioning of a democracy, cleansing itself of a dysfunctional relationship between a PM and his Parliament. Most Americans (including myself at age 16 or 17) didn't understand that the PM meticulously crafted his own "fall" and that the "election" was not the sign of obtaining a popular mandate, but rather an example of "election timing" for political advantage. There's nothing wrong with following examples from other countries whose innovations have worked. That being said, however, I love the US, my country. I don't want to adopt Canada's system. Canada should not adopt our system. Edited July 10, 2007 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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