Bonam Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 And an opinion that desperately clings to "equal blame" in the face of any facts isn't biased? The Arabs have been trying to whipe out Israel since before it even came into existence, and all Israel has ever done is try to defend itself - sometimes not aggressively enough, and sometimes too aggressively. Israel isn't perfect, and they've obviously made mistakes, but they are absolutely not guilty of trying to whipe out the Arab states around them or advocating the extermination of the Arab people, whereas various groups and states around them have constantly advocated for the eradication of Israel and the extermination of the Jews living there. In fact, if you delve deeper into the actual facts, you'll see that given the circumstances, Israel has expended significantly more effort avoiding civilian casualties among the Palestinians than just about any other nation in just about any other conflict. What other country telephones a building suspected to contain terrorists and their equipment to warn any civilians that might be there to get out, before they take action against the building? What other country provides food, water, and fuel to an area (Gaza) completely controlled by a group (Hamas) that is sworn to the country's destruction, just to make sure the civilians there don't suffer shortages of these commodities? Anyway, I'm sure you'll ignore all these points (like you did the last post) and just claim that anything posted by a person that has an opinion that holds one side to be less at fault than the other is biased and partisan. Never mind refuting any points or anything, just yell at the top of your lungs "omg biased". Works great, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Michael Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 (edited) And an opinion that desperately clings to "equal blame" in the face of any facts isn't biased? The Arabs have been trying to whipe out Israel since before it even came into existence, and all Israel has ever done is try to defend itself - sometimes not aggressively enough, and sometimes too aggressively. Israel isn't perfect, and they've obviously made mistakes, but they are absolutely not guilty of trying to whipe out the Arab states around them or advocating the extermination of the Arab people, whereas various groups and states around them have constantly advocated for the eradication of Israel and the extermination of the Jews living there. In fact, if you delve deeper into the actual facts, you'll see that given the circumstances, Israel has expended significantly more effort avoiding civilian casualties among the Palestinians than just about any other nation in just about any other conflict. What other country telephones a building suspected to contain terrorists and their equipment to warn any civilians that might be there to get out, before they take action against the building? What other country provides food, water, and fuel to an area (Gaza) completely controlled by a group (Hamas) that is sworn to the country's destruction, just to make sure the civilians there don't suffer shortages of these commodities? Anyway, I'm sure you'll ignore all these points (like you did the last post) and just claim that anything posted by a person that has an opinion that holds one side to be less at fault than the other is biased and partisan. Never mind refuting any points or anything, just yell at the top of your lungs "omg biased". Works great, really. No, I'll ignore it since it doesn't have much to do with the thread discussion. The thread topic is about Blair's appointment, and to a lesser extent, myata's attempt to blame all problems in the Middle East upon the western powers. My comments about 'no sympathy' for Israel is in part a reply to myata's arguments that I'm some toady apologist for Israel, neocons, USA or Britain. But you knew all that since you read the whole thread from the beginning... Edited July 10, 2007 by Mad_Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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