Tories lose terrorist vote

[ScottSA]

You know as well as I do Jews are a close knit society and manipulate Western society to a large degree with 75% control of Hollywood and 80% of the media, both television and print.

Jews also support left wing causes: racial integration, civil rights, open borders, none White immigration, anti-racism (White racism), feminism, abortion on demand, gay rights and anti-euthanasia for the severely disabled.

I see we've been reading the Protocals of Zion again...

[jdobbin]

I want you to cite the article concerning the Tamil candidate making his controversial statement.

The article you provided is concerning the original Conservative banning of the terrorist organization the 'Tamil Tigers' and has nothing to do with the Tamil Conservative candidate making his controversial statement along with the Conservative response to that statement.

I don't think you get what I'm saying. The Tamil Conservative candidate in the article says that his community was confused by the designation of the organization they supported being designated a terrorist organization. The candidate himself was supportive of that organization. The Tories had said in the election that going after LTTE was not a priority.

[jdobbin]

I think your got it arse-backwards.

From your very own link:

Banning the LTTE is not one of the Conservatives' top priorities, Kenney added, nor is it a significant election issue.

How do you reconcile that? Did you not think that I had seen that same article?

So please don't give me anymore Tories are so high and mighty on the issue. They recruited a Tamil and tried to get Tamil support by saying they were not going after LTTE as a priority.

[Canuck E Stan]

Why did the Tories keep their intentions to themselves about Tamils and yet run a Tamil in the last election who supported the Tamil organization?

Do you ever read what you write?

The Conservatives and their foreign affairs critic Stockwell Day have long argued that Canada should place the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, or LTTE, on its list of banned terrorist entities, in keeping with a recommendation from the national spy service.

The NDP also ran a Tamil in that election.

[jdobbin]

Do you ever read what you write?

The NDP also ran a Tamil in that election.

Did you read what your own link said? Kenney said that listing the LTTE as a terrorist organization was not a priority. Why did they keep it to themselves that it was a priority? Tell me that, please. If you can't answer, I'll tell you: So they could win the election.

Banning the LTTE is not one of the Conservatives' top priorities, Kenney added, nor is it a significant election issue.

The NDP didn't make the same the claim that the Tories did.

[cynic43]

[ The Liberals are a political party that should be banned in Canada.

what an assinine remark !

[Leafless]

I want you to cite the article concerning the Tamil candidate making his controversial statement.

The article you provided is concerning the original Conservative banning of the terrorist organization the 'Tamil Tigers' and has nothing to do with the Tamil Conservative candidate making his controversial statement along with the Conservative response to that statement.

I don't think you get what I'm saying. The Tamil Conservative candidate in the article says that his community was confused by the designation of the organization they supported being designated a terrorist organization. The candidate himself was supportive of that organization. The Tories had said in the election that going after LTTE was not a priority.

Your right, I was not certain of the article you were making reference to and assumed it was prior to the election but now understand it was after the election.

This is why it is important to cite the article you are talking about since this is rather old news.

It is still unknown the exact Conservative dealings prior to the election with Tamil candidate Vincent Veerasuntharam and if he admitted being a supporter of the LTTE prior to the election.

Either way the Conservatives a national party like the Liberals who dared initially to support a terrorist organization banned in 32 countries, simply took advantage of their corruptness of the Liberals who paved the way to buy votes from a terrorist organization.

Surely you must have observed the Conservatives mocking the corrupt ways of the Liberal in the way of vote buying relating to Quebec.

Like I said before the Liberal party of Canada is a party that should be banned as their corrupt actions are driving Canada down the road to destruction.

[Leafless]

[ The Liberals are a political party that should be banned in Canada.

what an assinine remark !

Why don't you learn how to spell the word before making asinine allegations.

[jdobbin]

Your right, I was not certain of the article you were making reference to and assumed it was prior to the election but now understand it was after the election.

This is why it is important to cite the article you are talking about since this is rather old news.

It is still unknown the exact Conservative dealings prior to the election with Tamil candidate Vincent Veerasuntharam and if he admitted being a supporter of the LTTE prior to the election.

Either way the Conservatives a national party like the Liberals who dared initially to support a terrorist organization banned in 32 countries, simply took advantage of their corruptness of the Liberals who paved the way to buy votes from a terrorist organization.

Surely you must have observed the Conservatives mocking the corrupt ways of the Liberal in the way of vote buying relating to Quebec.

Like I said before the Liberal party of Canada is a party that should be banned as their corrupt actions are driving Canada down the road to destruction.

I'm not sure from what you wrote whether you are comparing the Tories to the Liberals or not.

It would seem that in the last election, it was the Tories who were trying to reassure Tamils that they were not going after their organization as a priority. I don't seem to recollect the Liberals making that promise.

[Leafless]

I'm not sure from what you wrote whether you are comparing the Tories to the Liberals or not.

No I am not comparing the Tories to the Liberals.

What I am saying is once a national party (the Liberals) set the stage with corrupt actions to win votes or implement policies and succeed and there is no major outcry from the press or the public, then there is no alternative for other national parties to follow suit to win votes and implement policies utilizing corrupt actions.

To bad the Conservatives did not follow suit much earlier although I do not support this type of politics and feel there should be some type of political body to limit the actions of a corrupt political party to win votes.

It would seem that in the last election, it was the Tories who were trying to reassure Tamils that they were not going after their organization as a priority. I don't seem to recollect the Liberals making that promise.

Do you consider that a promise?

The Liberals did not have to as they were shamefully supporting a terrorist organization banned in 32 countries.

Don't you think it was inevitable that the LTTE would be banned in Canada sooner or later.

[jdobbin]

No I am not comparing the Tories to the Liberals.

What I am saying is once a national party (the Liberals) set the stage with corrupt actions to win votes or implement policies and succeed and there is no major outcry from the press or the public, then there is no alternative for other national parties to follow suit to win votes and implement policies utilizing corrupt actions.

To bad the Conservatives did not follow suit much earlier although I do not support this type of politics and feel there should be some type of political body to limit the actions of a corrupt political party to win votes.

Do you consider that a promise?

The Liberals did not have to as they were shamefully supporting a terrorist organization banned in 32 countries.

Don't you think it was inevitable that the LTTE would be banned in Canada sooner or later.

Hmm, let's see, you are using the same right wing argument that because the Liberals did it, the Tories have to do it. However, it isn't as bad when the Tories do it.

Kenney's attempt in telling the Tamils that such a policy wasn't a priority during the election certainly sounded like a promise to the Tamils in Canada.

I'm not defending the Liberal policy. They had to be pushed to remove the LTTE from fundraising in Canada. The Tories though were just as shameful in playing off the Tamils for political purposes. Is it any wonder that they are confused?

[Leafless]

You know as well as I do Jews are a close knit society and manipulate Western society to a large degree with 75% control of Hollywood and 80% of the media, both television and print.

Jews also support left wing causes: racial integration, civil rights, open borders, none White immigration, anti-racism (White racism), feminism, abortion on demand, gay rights and anti-euthanasia for the severely disabled.

I see we've been reading the Protocals of Zion again...

Yes, I admit I flew off the handle and apologize for what I said.

It was when JPG said; "Remember, the Jews are disproportionately powerful for various reasons, the main one being that they turn out to the polls in high numbers."

I seen this as turning 'out in high numbers' to vote, a reason for being powerful, not reflective of that situation due to their small population and listed the more relevant reasons, although this could be interpreted as being biased and possibly racist.

It is simply that I consider voting very important, but when all major political parties are displaying the same corruptness to different major issues, pushes one into a corner relating to voting and I choose not to vote as the only available alternative.

I have nothing against Jews and my daughter is married to one.

[Mad_Michael]

Why would we want to bring him here.

Austrailian and British Governments have demanded that detainees of their countries be returned and the US government has complied. Many of these people chose to join the Taliban/Pakistani Muj, on their own accord.

Khadr was born in Canada, and unfortuneately like the rest of this Brothers and Sisters, heavily influenced by his fathers misguided decision to blurr the line between Islamic Humanitarian Aid and directly supporting Terrorist causes in the name of Islam.

Young Khadr was a kid then for S(*Ts sake. That doesn't change the activities he participated in, and it doesn't lessen the fact that as he shot and killed, so was he shot and captured, while others he was with had been ambushed and killed. He is now 20 years old IIRC and I have every reason to believe the treatment at Guantanamo has been ineffective and counter productive to a situation that wasn't good to begin with.

At 20 years of Age he isn't the boy he was. But he is a Canadian Citizen, and my guess is that the weakness of our Prime Ministers, have allowed an impressionable boy to have missed a opportunity to right a wrong done to him by his father, that neither he or many in his family can understand.

Yeah, Harper can be tough and say, yup kid, you need to stay there till you rot. You terrorist you.

I have reason to believe that there could be a great possibility he could be ready to rejoin a group and pick up arms again.

But I also have reason to believe that had our government intercepted this young boy early on, grown a set of balls and stuck up for the chance to help him and find out whats going on in his head, there is good reason to believe that the possibility of success would be greater then keeping a kid in a questionable military prison.

You two guys can take great pleasure in kicking this kid, but I have to wonder, how long is the US going to keep him. What is going to happen if Guantanamo is shut down, and just what if the US releases him, and since you say not here then WHERE???

You are probably stupid enough to say Pakistan.

They will take good care of him!!!!

Idiots.

You know, there are many things to consider in regards to repatriating Khadr. This is good reason to believe in such a request being premature. But quite frankly, if the US chose to send him here, we would have to deal with the problems immediately. So, they better get off there butts and get ready for such a possibility.

But it has nothing to do with ScottSA retarded Title.

Good post. I agree completely (including the last line of course).

Lets hope that our Government doesn't try to make an ass of themselves over this. The man is a Canadian citizen, born in Canada.

The law does not permit our Government to pick and choose amongst which citizens they like and which they don't. Indeed, such an action would put us on the level of those whom we presume to war against.

[Shakeyhands]

Why did the Tories keep their intentions to themselves about Tamils and yet run a Tamil in the last election who supported the Tamil organization?

Do you ever read what you write?

The Conservatives and their foreign affairs critic Stockwell Day have long argued that Canada should place the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, or LTTE, on its list of banned terrorist entities, in keeping with a recommendation from the national spy service.

The NDP also ran a Tamil in that election.

A new twist! Justifying what the CPC does now based on the fact that the NDP did it too!!!

And why do we keep calling the CPC Tories????

[Who's Doing What?]

And why do we keep calling the CPC Tories????

Good question. I think we should be calling them the NLPC. The NEW LIBERAL PARTY OF CANADA.

Nickname could be The Libby Lites.

[Mad_Michael]

CPC has always been the Communist Party of Canada in my understanding. They've been using those initials for decades.

[Mad_Michael]

And why do we keep calling the CPC Tories????

Good question. I think we should be calling them the NLPC. The NEW LIBERAL PARTY OF CANADA.

Nickname could be The Libby Lites.

Would you prefer that they actually acted like real Tories? I think not.

[Who's Doing What?]

Would you prefer that they actually acted like real Tories? I think not.

I would like them somewhere between where they are now, and where everyone figured they would be.

[Argus]

To gain the benefit of his unique multicultural contribution to Canada.

How about to charge him under the law which the U.S. seems incapable of doing?

And what Canadian law did he break?

[jdobbin]

And what Canadian law did he break?

He would fall under the war crimes provisions of Canadian law. I'm sure if you ask FTA or a few other lawyers, they would concur. This is how Britain and Australia have been able to lay charges against people accused of crimes in Afghanistan.

[Mad_Michael]

To gain the benefit of his unique multicultural contribution to Canada.

How about to charge him under the law which the U.S. seems incapable of doing?

And what Canadian law did he break?

Stop fouling up the discussion with facts! Some people have axes to grind here and you are interfering!

[M.Dancer]

'Premature' to seek Khadr's return home: Tories

CanWest News Service

Published: Friday, June 15, 2007

OTTAWA -- The Harper government says it is "premature and speculative" to consider bringing home accused terrorist Omar Khadr from the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/sto...49-0758bc13461f

If Home is Egypt or an afghan prison......fast tract the lot.....

[Shakeyhands]

To gain the benefit of his unique multicultural contribution to Canada.

How about to charge him under the law which the U.S. seems incapable of doing?

And what Canadian law did he break?

Stop fouling up the discussion with facts! Some people have axes to grind here and you are interfering!

What American law did he break by that token?

[Mad_Michael]

To gain the benefit of his unique multicultural contribution to Canada.

How about to charge him under the law which the U.S. seems incapable of doing?

And what Canadian law did he break?

Stop fouling up the discussion with facts! Some people have axes to grind here and you are interfering!

What American law did he break by that token?

Damned if I know.

But that is beside the point. I should think it obvious to all that the Americans have proven that they don't need such petty details to animate their security/police/detention apparatus.

Indeed, if the Americans want to charge the fellow in a proper court of law, they ought to. Fact is, they haven't.