scribblet Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 I suppose this is what you get for electing terrorists, no wonder Palestinians are trying to emigrate. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.j...subContrassID=1 The Human Rights Watch organization Wednesday condemned Hamas and Fatah for committing "serious violations of international humanitarian law, in some cases amounting to war crimes" in violence in Gaza in recent days. It also took the Islamic Jihad and the Fatah Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades to task for a June 9 incident in which gunmen used a jeep bearing "TV" insignias to allow them to approach and attack an IDF post in southern Israel, calling it a "serious violation of the laws of war." "In internal Palestinian fighting over the last three days, both Fatah and Hamas military forces have summarily executed captives, killed people not involved in hostilities, and engaged in gun battles with one another inside and near Palestinian hospitals," the organization said in a statement. It cited a number of summary executions as particular examples of violations of the rules of warfare, including the case of Muhammad Swairki, 28, a cook for Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas's presidential guard, who was thrown to his death, with his hands and legs tied, from a 15-story apartment building in Gaza City on Sunday. "These attacks by both Hamas and Fatah constitute brutal assaults on the most fundamental humanitarian principles," said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director for Human Rights Watch. "The murder of civilians not engaged in hostilities and the willful killing of captives are war crimes, pure and simple." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figleaf Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 I suppose this is what you get for electing terrorists, no wonder Palestinians are trying to emigrate.http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.j...subContrassID=1 The Human Rights Watch organization Wednesday condemned Hamas and Fatah for committing "serious violations of international humanitarian law, in some cases amounting to war crimes" in violence in Gaza in recent days. .... "The murder of civilians not engaged in hostilities and the willful killing of captives are war crimes, pure and simple." And none of that would be any concern for Israel if it were not the Occupying power with an obligation to protect civilians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chilipeppers Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Oh boy, so this civil war is now Israel's fault, why didn't I think of that one. At least they have their two state solution now. today. Whatever decision Abbas and his Fatah lieutenants take, it will be hard to change the new reality that has been created on the ground, especially in the Gaza Strip. As of today, the Palestinians can boast that they have two entities - one in the Gaza Strip run by Muslim fundamentalists and another one in the West Bank under the control of secular Fatah leaders. "The two-state solution has finally worked," a Palestinian journalist in the Gaza Strip commented sarcastically. "Today, all our enemies have good reason to celebrate." cont. here http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid...icle%2FShowFull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figleaf Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Oh boy, so this civil war is now Israel's fault, ... That wasn't my comment. I was pointing out that Israel could contentedly ignore this internal Palestinian conflict, if they were not responsible for protecting the civilians in territories they Occupy. But now that you mention it, yes, in a way Israel is partly responsible for this, by having thwarted the possible peace they could have had with Arafat, undermining the authority of the mainline PA, and advertently or inadvertently nurturing Hamas. Palestinians can boast that they have two entities - one in the Gaza Strip run by Muslim fundamentalists and another one in the West Bank under the control of secular Fatah leaders. Actually they have neither. Both those territories are under military occupation by Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 "Human Rights Watch condemns Hamas, Fatah for war crimes" Too bad it's only a war crime when they're killing each other. Apparently, according to Human Rights Watch, killing Israeli civilians is all fine and dandy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffycat Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Apparently, according to Human Rights Watch, killing Israeli civilians is all fine and dandy. That is absolute nonsense. HRW has condemned on numerous occassions the use of suicide bombers who target civilians. You know not of what you speak. Here's an old article from 2002 from CNN: http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/1...s.palestinians/ The 170-page report from New York-based Human Rights Watch assessed the suicide bombing operations of Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), the groups that have claimed responsibility for most recent suicide bombings. The report says the leaders of such groups should face criminal investigation. ******** I'm sure you can follow up with your own search, mine turned up about one and a half million or so the way I worded it. Or heck you could just go visit HRW yourself! IMO both sides are blatently guilty of 'war crimes'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottSA Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Oh boy, so this civil war is now Israel's fault, ... That wasn't my comment. I was pointing out that Israel could contentedly ignore this internal Palestinian conflict, if they were not responsible for protecting the civilians in territories they Occupy. But now that you mention it, yes, in a way Israel is partly responsible for this, by having thwarted the possible peace they could have had with Arafat, undermining the authority of the mainline PA, and advertently or inadvertently nurturing Hamas. Right. And Britain is responsible for the American civil war by thwarting the possible peace they could have had after 1813, and undermining the authority of the Northern Republic by advertently and inadvertently nurturing the CSA. You just gotta blame the Jews, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffycat Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 ScottSA: You just gotta blame the Jews, huh? Gee Scott are you saying that all Jews everywhere on the planet are responsible in some way for the behaviour of successive Israeli Administrations over the last decades? Talk about lumping all folk together and making an absurd statement!! BTW - Not all Jews support what the Israeli Admins have been doing - in case ya didn't know (Since your above statement seems to suggest that all Jews are just fine with the occupation!) (NOT TRUE!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottSA Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 ScottSA:You just gotta blame the Jews, huh? Gee Scott are you saying that all Jews everywhere on the planet are responsible in some way for the behaviour of successive Israeli Administrations over the last decades? Talk about lumping all folk together and making an absurd statement!! BTW - Not all Jews support what the Israeli Admins have been doing - in case ya didn't know (Since your above statement seems to suggest that all Jews are just fine with the occupation!) (NOT TRUE!!) Gee Buffy! There you go getting all fluffed up again at first reading! You ought to know by now that in order for you to actually understand what people are saying, you have to lip read it over slowly numerous times until you hear the *clink* of a penny dropping! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffycat Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Gee Scotty!! I read just fine! Thanks so much for your concern!! Noted (you're still wrong in your assumption that all Jews can be blamed for the actions of Israel!) ta ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottSA Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Gee Scotty!! I read just fine! Thanks so much for your concern!! Noted (you're still wrong in your assumption that all Jews can be blamed for the actions of Israel!) ta ta This post contradicts itself. You made a statement and then proceeded to prove it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 That is absolute nonsense. HRW has condemned on numerous occassions the use of suicide bombers who target civilians.You know not of what you speak. Take a read through this article: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Publ...9efeoa.asp?pg=2 and tell me if you still think Human Rights Watch condemns war crimes of all sides equally. The fact is, HRW is at best reluctant to condemn the actions of various extremist/militant groups in the middle-east while ever eager to condemn any possible wrongdoing by Israel. The above article discussing their treatment of the 2006 Israel-Hezbollah war is a typical example of the double standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figleaf Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 ... the Jews, huh?Why are you importing such references? I have no interest in indulging your anti-semitic urges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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