Senate rebukes Joe Wilson

[B. Max]

They should be investigating Wilson and maybe looking at some charges here. Maybe there is a conspiracy here involving Plame and even others.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2...0750.shtml?s=us

The report claims Wilson mislead the public and the intelligence committee about his trip to Niger in 2002 on behalf of the CIA to investigate claims that Iraq was seeking to purchase uranium in Africa.

[Topaz]

I've read more website that is for Wilson than against. BUT, lets say he lied. Other than he lied, it didn't change Bush invading Iraq and no one found the yellow??? that was supposely Hussein had. Bush had this invasion palnned since '99 when he announced he was running for Prez.

[sunsettommy]

I've read more website that is for Wilson than against. BUT, lets say he lied. Other than he lied, it didn't change Bush invading Iraq and no one found the yellow??? that was supposely Hussein had. Bush had this invasion palnned since '99 when he announced he was running for Prez.

You say he planned the invasion since 1999 huh?

LOL

[B. Max]

I've read more website that is for Wilson than against. BUT, lets say he lied. Other than he lied, it didn't change Bush invading Iraq and no one found the yellow??? that was supposely Hussein had. Bush had this invasion palnned since '99 when he announced he was running for Prez.

Except for the 500 tons of yellow cake the US flew back to the US that Iraq already had. But this is about Iraq trying to buy more which clearly it was. Which is what Wilson mislead the senate committee about.

[GostHacked]

I've read more website that is for Wilson than against. BUT, lets say he lied. Other than he lied, it didn't change Bush invading Iraq and no one found the yellow??? that was supposely Hussein had. Bush had this invasion palnned since '99 when he announced he was running for Prez.

Except for the 500 tons of yellow cake the US flew back to the US that Iraq already had. But this is about Iraq trying to buy more which clearly it was. Which is what Wilson mislead the senate committee about.

Except you know the documents regarding the yellow cake from Niger was fake and uncoroberated with any source. Wilson said there were no WMDs and the Iraq Survey Group came to the same conclusion.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/03/21/iraq.weapons/ March 22, 2004 <-- notice the date people. This has been known for years and the blind still think Bush was right.

Blix described the evidence Secretary of State Colin Powell presented to the U.N. Security Council in February 2003 as "shaky," and said he related his opinion to U.S. officials, including national security adviser Condoleezza Rice.

"I think they chose to ignore us," Blix said.

Mohamed ElBaradei, director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, spoke to CNN from IAEA headquarters in Vienna, Austria.

ElBaradei said he had been "pretty convinced" that Iraq had not resumed its nuclear weapons program, which the IAEA dismantled in 1997.

And that yellow cake??

The most spectacular intelligence failure concerned a report by ElBaradei, who revealed that an alleged contract by Iraq with Niger to import uranium oxide was a forgery, Blix said.

"The document had been sitting with the CIA and their U.K. counterparts for a long while, and they had not discovered it," Blix said. "And I think it took the IAEA a day to discover that it was a forgery."

Hans Blix still hold credibility with me, for he is still saying the same thing he did years ago. The Bush Administration has changed their 'evidence' many times over the past years since the invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Nice try thought. The Yellow Cake Theory is just a right wing delusional conspiracy.

[B. Max]

Nice try thought. The Yellow Cake Theory is just a right wing delusional conspiracy.

The UN is a pack of criminal liars with no credibility what so ever. Who were sucking billions of dollars out of the oil for food scam to keep themselves living like kings in their New York penthouses. Along with funding the agenda's behind their Marxist one world government.

[GostHacked]

Nice try thought. The Yellow Cake Theory is just a right wing delusional conspiracy.

The UN is a pack of criminal liars with no credibility what so ever. Who were sucking billions of dollars out of the oil for food scam to keep themselves living like kings in their New York penthouses. Along with funding the agenda's behind their Marxist one world government.

And this debunks my statements how? And if you are talking about credibility, I am sure the Bush Administration could use some right about now.

[B. Max]

Nice try thought. The Yellow Cake Theory is just a right wing delusional conspiracy.

The UN is a pack of criminal liars with no credibility what so ever. Who were sucking billions of dollars out of the oil for food scam to keep themselves living like kings in their New York penthouses. Along with funding the agenda's behind their Marxist one world government.

And this debunks my statements how? And if you are talking about credibility, I am sure the Bush Administration could use some right about now.

Your statements are all based on UN statements and are the statements of an organization trying to protect it's oil for food scam and cover up it's conntection to international organized crime. That even involved the liberal government of Canada.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2...17/133225.shtml

[GostHacked]

You won't get any arguments here about the UN. The UN Army is not even signatory to it's own mandate. So they can do whatever the hell they want it seems.

There were some fat cats in the US that benifited from the botched Oil for Food Programme as well.

The admission is part of a settlement being negotiated with United States prosecutors and includes fines totaling $25 million to $30 million, according to the investigators, who declined to be identified because the settlement was not yet public.

The penalty, which is still being negotiated, would be the largest so far in the United States in connection with investigations of companies involved in the oil-for-food scandal.

But this is getting off topic. We are talking about the Senate and Joe Wilson. The end result is the Niger yellow cake documents were forged. Is the IAEA part of the UN at all??

[B. Max]

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But this is getting off topic. We are talking about the Senate and Joe Wilson. The end result is the Niger yellow cake documents were forged. Is the IAEA part of the UN at all??

Those documents were forged by who though, and for what reason. Those documents were not the only source and the British still claimed even after the documents were discovered to be forged that Iraq had been trying to buy more material in Africa and the senate has agreed and rebuked Wilson.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/07/abo..._of_yellow.html

[GostHacked]

B MAx ... from your article...

The story begins at the end of the first Gulf War when inspectors found a 500 ton cache of refined yellow cake uranium at Iraq's primary nuclear research facility in Al—Tuwaitha outside of Bagdhad. The cache was part of a huge inventory of nuclear materials discovered by UN inspectors that included low—level radioactive material of the type used for industrial and medical purposes as well as a quantity of highly enriched uranium suitable for bomb production.

This story is over 15 years old. Care to show me something about him aquiring yellow cake in the years prior to the US invasion of Iraq in 2003??

Al-Tuwaitha was a nuclear research faclity and there was a couple reactors there. So, wow, this makes sense that yellow cake was found at these facilities after the Coalition won the first Gulf War back in the early 90s.

This HE uranium was shipped to Russia where it was made relatively harmless by a process known as 'isotopic dilution' —

A memo obtained by the British — later proven to be a forgery — purported to show the Iraqis were interested in purchasing 500 tons of yellow cake uranium from Niger's mines.

buuuuuut speculation

Forgery or not, since Niger's exports are extremely limited, consisting largely of uranium ore, livestock, cowpeas, and onions, one doesn't have to be an intelligence analyst to figure out in which one of those items the Iraqis might be interested.

So, I guess it does not matter if the memo was forged, Niger had yellow cake and Saddam wanted it They keep talking about the 500 tonnes they found but Russia helped them make it pretty much useless, so it cannot be used for nuclear material for bombs. Yes Saddam was interested in obtaining many things, but with the sanctions in place and no fly zones on Iraq he was never able to.

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Joe Wilson went to Niger in 2002 then told the CIA of his findings. And he really found nothing to back up the Niger-Iraq-Yellow-Cake theory.

Valerie Plame was outed in late 2003, so the outing of Plame to me was a stab at Wilson who may have been an errand boy turned wislteblower on the Iraq thing. And now they want to investigate Wilson for criminal activity??

[B. Max]

name='GostHacked' date='Jun 4 2007, 01:27 PM' post='225064']

This story is over 15 years old. Care to show me something about him aquiring yellow cake in the years prior to the US invasion of Iraq in 2003??

No one disputes that the yellow cake wasn't from years before. The fact is they were trying to buy more.

Al-Tuwaitha was a nuclear research faclity and there was a couple reactors there. So, wow, this makes sense that yellow cake was found at these facilities after the Coalition won the first Gulf War back in the early 90s.

So what. If they found it under Saddam's bed would that make any difference. No.

This HE uranium was shipped to Russia where it was made relatively harmless by a process known as 'isotopic dilution'

Not all of it.

buuuuuut speculation

Forgery or not, since Niger's exports are extremely limited, consisting largely of uranium ore, livestock, cowpeas, and onions, one doesn't have to be an intelligence analyst to figure out in which one of those items the Iraqis might be interested

So, I guess it does not matter if the memo was forged, Niger had yellow cake and Saddam wanted it They keep talking about the 500 tonnes they found but Russia helped them make it pretty much useless, so it cannot be used for nuclear material for bombs. Yes Saddam was interested in obtaining many things, but with the sanctions in place and no fly zones on Iraq he was never able to.

We know saddam's agents were there. They weren't there to buy peas.

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Joe Wilson went to Niger in 2002 then told the CIA of his findings. And he really found nothing to back up the Niger-Iraq-Yellow-Cake theory.

He never intended to find anything.

Valerie Plame was outed in late 2003, so the outing of Plame to me was a stab at Wilson who may have been an errand boy turned wislteblower on the Iraq thing. And now they want to investigate Wilson for criminal activity??

Wilson had been running around outing Plame and feeding misinformation to all kinds of people. People who were intent on discrediting Bush.

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/007484.php

http://slate.com/id/2148555

I would say they have already investigated him and rebuked his story. Now they should be seeing that charges are laid.