madmax Posted April 21, 2007 Report Posted April 21, 2007 I was watching Global News this morning and they said that the Conservatives and the NDP were neck and neck in opinion polls. But no numbers were supplied. Anyone have an article? Quote
madmax Posted April 21, 2007 Report Posted April 21, 2007 Why the success of the NDP in Man? Geez, couldnt you have looked East for a year or so when Rae was Premier?What is it about Man that has them in power. You are confusing Political Parties and good government. I don't believe their is anything like a Progressive Conservative Party in BC. In Alberta, there really isn't anything other than the Progressive Conservative Party. In Sask, the Progressive Conservatives ran such a disasterous Government that there is no longer a Progressive Conservative Party. In Manitoba, the NDP appears to have been doing a sound enough job that they could go for 3 terms in a row. In Ontario, No party has had to change their name in order to be accepted. Yet the NDP have not regained their status since the end of the Rae era. The Harris Conservatives are being run away from faster then you can say rumplestiltskin, and the McGuinty government is viewed as weak out of touch, and nothing accomplished in their 4 year term. Good Government has been in short supply, regardless of the parties in charge. People in Ontario are subject to consecutive poor performances from all the parties. As opposed to telling Westerners in Manitoba to Look East, perhaps people in Ontario need to look West. In the West there is currently a Liberal Government in BC Conservative in Alb Socialist in Sask Socialist in Man and all Provinces have difficulties, yet these provinces are going to be in better shape then Ontario will be by the end of 2007 if we don't wake up. Guyser, you are showing a bit of bias by suggesting that Manitobans look east. You could have said, look west to the other "successful" governments. This gives Manitobans lots of Choice without having to consider some pretty bad Ontario Governments over the last 15 years. But that is just my opinion Quote
jdobbin Posted April 21, 2007 Author Report Posted April 21, 2007 I was watching Global News this morning and they said that the Conservatives and the NDP were neck and neck in opinion polls. But no numbers were supplied. Anyone have an article? The last poll from Probe Research this past month in the Free Press suggested it was neck and neck in the polls. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/20...n-manitoba.html However, the Tories have voted too heavily concentrated in rural areas and not in Winnipeg. The pollster translated it as a majority for the NDP. Quote
jdobbin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Report Posted April 22, 2007 The first day of the election has been quiet. No signs up yet and no advertising unless you consider government ads that didn't get pulled until today. http://cjob.com/news/index.aspx?src=loc&mc=local&rem=63537 Liberal leader Jon Gerrard promised to get tough on car thieves, something near and dear to Winnipeg hearts. NDP leader Gary Doer promised a new fitness centre for Brandon and money for equipment elsewhere. Hugh McFadyen of the the PCs promised municipalities more control over business tax. Enumerators were out today getting names of eligible voters. Quote
Canuck E Stan Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 Liberal leader Jon Gerrard promised to get tough on car thieves, something near and dear to Winnipeg hearts. Liberal platform I now understand why the provincial Liberals have only 2 seats. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
jdobbin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Report Posted April 22, 2007 Liberal platformI now understand why the provincial Liberals have only 2 seats. The Liberal leader has been very weak. However, your link also mentions the other parties have not made any policy on car theft. Beyond that, what is it about the policy announcement that has got you upset? Quote
BubberMiley Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 I now understand why the provincial Liberals have only 2 seats. Do you mean they need more of a platform than cracking down on car theft? I think that issue resonates well with the public, so it makes sense to focus on it somewhat. I think the Libs have more problems because their grandstanding in the Legislature makes them look like amateurs and not ready for prime time. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
jdobbin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Report Posted April 22, 2007 Do you mean they need more of a platform than cracking down on car theft? I think that issue resonates well with the public, so it makes sense to focus on it somewhat. I think the Libs have more problems because their grandstanding in the Legislature makes them look like amateurs and not ready for prime time. I totally agree that it doesn't help when stunts are used in the Legislature. It is quite the contrast when Sharon Carstairs stood off to one side when she had no seat in the House and waited for reporters to come to her so she could comment. Sadly, the Legislature only sits 30 or so days in a year and there are fewer full time reporters covering provincial politics. The media latches on to stunts because they can't be bothered to attend Question Period. I suppose it is a strategy that works for the government. The Opposition will likely have to find new ways of getting their message out. I think another massive NDP majority is coming our way. Quote
Canuck E Stan Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 Sadly, the Legislature only sits 30 or so days in a year Really getting a bang for your buck in Manitoba. And everyone thinks car stealing is a major issue? Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
blueblood Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 Sadly, the Legislature only sits 30 or so days in a year Really getting a bang for your buck in Manitoba. And everyone thinks car stealing is a major issue? MPI fixed that with the immobilizer you can install in your car. They help cover the cost and your insurance rates go down. It's almost a non-issue if you ask me, if you live in the city and are too dense to put one in when car thievery is a big problem, your asking for it. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
jdobbin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Report Posted April 22, 2007 Really getting a bang for your buck in Manitoba.And everyone thinks car stealing is a major issue? If you lived in Winnipeg, you wouldn't need to ask. Cars are being stolen all the time including ones that have the club on them and immobilizers. Quote
jdobbin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Report Posted April 22, 2007 MPI fixed that with the immobilizer you can install in your car. They help cover the cost and your insurance rates go down. It's almost a non-issue if you ask me, if you live in the city and are too dense to put one in when car thievery is a big problem, your asking for it. MPI didn't fix the whole problem. Car thefts continue even with cars that have the club and immobilizer on. Happened to a neighbor down the street and was reported by the media here as part of a story on whether immobilizers were doing the trick. What has helped is putting repeat offenders in jail. Quote
blueblood Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 MPI fixed that with the immobilizer you can install in your car. They help cover the cost and your insurance rates go down. It's almost a non-issue if you ask me, if you live in the city and are too dense to put one in when car thievery is a big problem, your asking for it. MPI didn't fix the whole problem. Car thefts continue even with cars that have the club and immobilizer on. Happened to a neighbor down the street and was reported by the media here as part of a story on whether immobilizers were doing the trick. What has helped is putting repeat offenders in jail. The club is useless, a cordless rotary saw will take care of that. I thought those were supposed to work pretty good. It's hard to start a vehicle with one on. Putting repeat offenders in jail, how right wing of you. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
jdobbin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Report Posted April 22, 2007 The club is useless, a cordless rotary saw will take care of that. I thought those were supposed to work pretty good. It's hard to start a vehicle with one on.Putting repeat offenders in jail, how right wing of you. The immobiilzers have put off the casual stealer of cars. It has not stopped the repeat offenders. The Cadillacs used to hit pedestrians had immobilzers. The Liberals in Manitoba have been calling for harsher penalties for car thieves for some time. It took the attacks on pedestrians to get the NDP to think about more than securing cars. They had to do something about the youth responsible. Quote
blueblood Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 The club is useless, a cordless rotary saw will take care of that. I thought those were supposed to work pretty good. It's hard to start a vehicle with one on. Putting repeat offenders in jail, how right wing of you. The immobiilzers have put off the casual stealer of cars. It has not stopped the repeat offenders. The Cadillacs used to hit pedestrians had immobilzers. The Liberals in Manitoba have been calling for harsher penalties for car thieves for some time. It took the attacks on pedestrians to get the NDP to think about more than securing cars. They had to do something about the youth responsible. Why won't they put GPS beacons in cars then. They have On Star which tells you exactly where you are, why not pop it in cars then and if the car is stolen, give the coordinates to the cops. Why not go further and go after the judge for being too lenient on that. Also theres the YJCA that causes problems with sentancing as well. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
madmax Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 Why won't they put GPS beacons in cars then. They have On Star which tells you exactly where you are, why not pop it in cars then and if the car is stolen, give the coordinates to the cops. Anycar can be stolen, regardless of the anti theft devices. Quote
madmax Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 I dont know why everyone bashes manitoba all the time. We rock.Dirt cheap car insurance (i pay less than 2000 per year for 2 vehicles that are only a few years old), Your putting me off. I pay $1700 for one vehicle. dirt cheap hydro (1600 square foot house, family of 4-never pay more than about 55 per month), Used to pay that rate. We have begun deregulation. Now my delivery charge is close to that figure. My Hydro Bill is closer to the $200 range. dirt cheap water (never pay more than about 125 every 3 months), I am on a well, HA!!! Gotcha! tuition freeze at university, jobs everywhere (contrary to popular belief), Pharmacare drug program (oh this is a great provincial program-can you say cheap meds for everyone?), great cottage country close to winnipeg (our cottage is only an hour and half drive from the city), cheap housing (compared to alberta, b.c., ontario, etc.) costs, etc. There is always some dumb ass who will critise these benefits. This sounds great. Ontario, could use some catching up. Once these benefits are gone because of outside pressures from idealogues, you soon discover you have none of the above, or are paying through the nose for the same privately. the only thing that sucks is the high telephone bills-but we can blame the tories for privatizing our telephone company (after publicly saying they wouldnt before the election and then lying and doing it) for that. I find the constant calls from phone service suppliers calling anytime of day, soliticing business to be very annoying. I tell them I don't accept telephone solicitation, but they somehow believe they are better then other telemarketers and continue to annoy me with their calls. I always let them know that they can mail me their "deals". If they keep harrassing me, I find better words. Quote
jdobbin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Report Posted April 22, 2007 Why won't they put GPS beacons in cars then. They have On Star which tells you exactly where you are, why not pop it in cars then and if the car is stolen, give the coordinates to the cops.Why not go further and go after the judge for being too lenient on that. Also theres the YJCA that causes problems with sentancing as well. The Cadillacs that were stolen also had On Star. A car still needs to be reported stolen before On Star kicks in and the kids that stole these vehicles did their damage in less than an hour. The judges have thrown the book at the kids who went after pedestrians. It has helped drop the amount of thefts somewhat because there were so many caused by one family of kids. The Youth Criminal Justice Act lies in federal jurisdiction. What Gerrard proposed lies within provincial jurisdiction. Quote
BubberMiley Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 The NDP has proposed putting GPS trackers directly on the repeat-offender kids who steal the cars. That sounds like it might be effective. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
jdobbin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Report Posted April 22, 2007 The DNP has proposed putting GPS trackers directly on the repeat-offender kids who steal the cars. That sounds like it might be effective. I think all three parties would agree that for kids still in the community that might be acceptable. The thing that remains unanswered? Who monitors this system? At the moment there are not enough officers to respond to temporary restraining orders. This is a system that requires someone monitoring 24 hours a day and have the ability to respond to it. Moreover, if someone is caught, they can't be held if they are under 12 years of age. Quote
Canuck E Stan Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 At the moment there are not enough officers to respond to temporary restraining orders. This is a system that requires someone monitoring 24 hours a day and have the ability to respond to it. With your MLA only working 30 days a year,here's something for them to do the rest of the time. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
geoffrey Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 What is the story about the kids hitting people with Cadillacs? Unfortunateley I can't the story. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
jdobbin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Report Posted April 22, 2007 With your MLA only working 30 days a year,here's something for them to do the rest of the time. Think they were supervising 420 at the Legislature on Friday. Quote
jdobbin Posted April 22, 2007 Author Report Posted April 22, 2007 What is the story about the kids hitting people with Cadillacs? Unfortunateley I can't the story. Underage kids were stealing cars and then running down pedestrians with their vehicles last month hurting two people, one quite badly. It was an escalation that caught everyone off guard. The day it happen joggers were coming up to me and telling me to be careful on my walk to work. People were pretty scared. The vehicles were equipped with immobilizers and On Star. Didn't matter a whit though. Quote
Canuck E Stan Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 work. when? Too much computer Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
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