[email protected] Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 IF uniting the four Atlantic Canadian provinces is a bad idea since each province is culturally distinct and should have its own government and capital THEN is it not logical to ask, should new provinces be created for culturally distinct sub-regions each with a capital and government? 1. Split Labrador from Newfoundland 2. Split French speaking Acadia from New Brunswick 3. Split Cape Breton from Nova Scotia Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 IF uniting the four Atlantic Canadian provinces is a bad idea since each province is culturally distinct and should have its own government and capital THEN is it not logical to ask, should new provinces be created for culturally distinct sub-regions each with a capital and government? 1. Split Labrador from Newfoundland 2. Split French speaking Acadia from New Brunswick 3. Split Cape Breton from Nova Scotia Yeah....and add the Gaspe to Acadia and split annapolis valley from the lunenburg....... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
jdobbin Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 Yeah....and add the Gaspe to Acadia and split annapolis valley from the lunenburg....... And Dartmouth from Halifax. Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 Yeah....and add the Gaspe to Acadia and split annapolis valley from the lunenburg....... And Dartmouth from Halifax. Especially....... ....while we are at it, Summerside from Charlottetown..... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Topaz Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 I don't blame you for feeling that way and I feel Harper is doing a good job to break up Canada so the North America Union will pass easily in a few years into the future. The best thing Canadians can do to keep that from happening is to vote out parties that support it and Harper is one that does!! Quote
[email protected] Posted March 31, 2007 Author Report Posted March 31, 2007 This question is a response to those who object to Atlantic/Maritime Union on the grounds that alleged cultural differences justify keeping the provinces separate. It makes no sense to argue eg NS and NB are both 'distinct' while maintaining that Acadia is not distinct from the rest of NB. You can't have it both ways. Quote
fellowtraveller Posted March 31, 2007 Report Posted March 31, 2007 This question is a response to those who object to Atlantic/Maritime Union on the grounds that alleged cultural differences justify keeping the provinces separate. It makes no sense to argue eg NS and NB are both 'distinct' while maintaining that Acadia is not distinct from the rest of NB. You can't have it both ways. I don't care about any of that, your culture is your business. All I want to know is: how much more will any form of 'Atlantic Alliance' cost me as a Canadian taxpayer? Quote The government should do something.
[email protected] Posted April 3, 2007 Author Report Posted April 3, 2007 This question is a response to those who object to Atlantic/Maritime Union on the grounds that alleged cultural differences justify keeping the provinces separate. It makes no sense to argue eg NS and NB are both 'distinct' while maintaining that Acadia is not distinct from the rest of NB. You can't have it both ways. I don't care about any of that, your culture is your business. All I want to know is: how much more will any form of 'Atlantic Alliance' cost me as a Canadian taxpayer? If anything, very little. The idea behind Union is to help the region become self-sufficient over time so that it does not need assistance from the rest of Canada. Quote
fellowtraveller Posted April 4, 2007 Report Posted April 4, 2007 This question is a response to those who object to Atlantic/Maritime Union on the grounds that alleged cultural differences justify keeping the provinces separate. It makes no sense to argue eg NS and NB are both 'distinct' while maintaining that Acadia is not distinct from the rest of NB. You can't have it both ways. I don't care about any of that, your culture is your business. All I want to know is: how much more will any form of 'Atlantic Alliance' cost me as a Canadian taxpayer? If anything, very little. The idea behind Union is to help the region become self-sufficient over time so that it does not need assistance from the rest of Canada. I don't want to hear "if anything, very little". What I want to hear about is the immediate costsavings for the poor citizens of Candada who have propped up the economic disaster that is the Maritimes. Provide a cogent plan that benefits the nation as well as serving Maritimers and I'll be right there with you. Until then, not interested. Nothing but selfishness prvents the four provinces from negotiating the kind of cooperative arrangements that BC and Alberta just concldued and that will reputedly save many m,illions. Anything less is just talk, hot air at that. Quote The government should do something.
stjohnrv Posted May 1, 2007 Report Posted May 1, 2007 This question is a response to those who object to Atlantic/Maritime Union on the grounds that alleged cultural differences justify keeping the provinces separate. It makes no sense to argue eg NS and NB are both 'distinct' while maintaining that Acadia is not distinct from the rest of NB. You can't have it both ways. I don't care about any of that, your culture is your business. All I want to know is: how much more will any form of 'Atlantic Alliance' cost me as a Canadian taxpayer? If anything, very little. The idea behind Union is to help the region become self-sufficient over time so that it does not need assistance from the rest of Canada. The suggested atlantic union, if it should ever happen, has nothing to do with culture and everything to do with political influence. We 3 little beavers in the big ROC pond count for nothing, speak for nothing and are generally ignored in the overall sceme of things. Ottawa gives Quebec billions ans cherest uses it to deliever a political budget including the biggest income tax cuts in decades. Ottawa trembles before mighty mouth dany Williams gives NF&L a deal and danny delievers the biggest income tax cut in NF&L history. You will note i previously mentioned 3 beavers not 4 as the expected oil wealth of NF&L has pushed them even further off shore then they were. The people of NF&L still post the higest unemployment rates and i suspect the highest departure rates of any province, but Big Danny has learned from Quebec rattle the sabers, issue threats( even insult the flag) and Ottawa will cave like a roof of rotten timbers. You will also noter i don't mention novia scotia supposed gas wealth its because they have such incompetent political leaders they will never get it off the ggroud if its ever really there. Your question would a union of NB, NS and PEI cost you more as a canadian taxpayer you want to believe it would. A concentrated vote in the senate and parliment and the subsequent increase in population (i province as opposed to 3) would impact directly on the equalization formula. However, not to fear the political swine in all the Atlantic proinces will never agree to anything that would limit or reduce their power in own little fiefdoms. To these swine it will always be preferable to rule in hell then to serve in heaven. Canada is the worlds great experiment in disassociated union it has held together with spit and lies for 140 years , but how much longer will our big neighbor to the south tolerate having the what may be the worlds largests deposts of fossil fuels and the worlds absoluely largest supply of fresh water in the hands of ottawa's ditherers and their 10 little surly suplicants. Quote
Figleaf Posted May 7, 2007 Report Posted May 7, 2007 IF uniting the four Atlantic Canadian provinces is a bad idea since each province is culturally distinct and should have its own government and capital THEN is it not logical to ask, should new provinces be created for culturally distinct sub-regions each with a capital and government? 1. Split Labrador from Newfoundland 2. Split French speaking Acadia from New Brunswick 3. Split Cape Breton from Nova Scotia We should split up most provinces, and amend the constitution to eradicate the existing provinces. They're nothing but trouble. Split Montreal Island off on it's own. Same with Vancouver Island. Definitely split Cape Breton from NS. Make them all smaller. Split Ontario into four and Alberta into two. Oh, and split PEI's Eastern Kings county from Southern Kings county. Quote
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