BayLee Posted February 19, 2007 Author Report Posted February 19, 2007 Wow CB . Settle down. Like I said no one called you a pedophile. But by not condeming a cop who is into kiddie porn but instead attacking the person who brings the subject up is very disturbing. So maybe you could just answer the question Are you into kiddie porn or not? If you say no then I will believe you. But because of your earlier comments I am not sure all posters will Quote I Love My Dogs
Canadian Blue Posted February 19, 2007 Report Posted February 19, 2007 Put up a poll asking posters whether or not I am into kiddie porn. On another note, were did I say that I was into child pornography. This is ridiculous, you are accusing me of beating off to children getting raped, and saying people on here believe that I get off on children getting raped. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
Catchme Posted February 19, 2007 Report Posted February 19, 2007 No kiddie porn isn't alright. But then again saying all cops are pigs and things is just as bad. WOW! There's a wild example of moral relativism if ever there was! Calling police 'pigs' is just as bad as filming child rape?!?!? CB, you need to get a sense of proportion! Personally, I would say that more than a sense of proportion is needed with that comment. When someone likens name calling to child rape and child pornography, what is needed is an infusion of values and morals, if not more. And if someone thinks that name calling is equal to child rape and pornography, I would ask why then is is child rape and pornography against the law, while name calling is recognized as just bad behavour with no criminal offense attached? Frankly, someone who equates name calling with child rape and filming of it gives me the creeps. Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
Canadian Blue Posted February 19, 2007 Report Posted February 19, 2007 Well since I've already been accused of being a pedophile on here I might as well be responding to the other attack. When someone likens name calling to child rape and child pornography, what is needed is an infusion of values and morals, if not more. Well, as I responded earlier, sometimes words will have more power then an act of violence, and can encourage violence. Looking back at the comment, it was an unfortunate mistake, and shouldn't have been made by myself as I've been accused of being a pedophile, and apparently a cop hater. What values do I need to be enfused with, that calling people a derogatory and vile term is alright? As long as it's not directed at you right Catchme? And if someone thinks that name calling is equal to child rape and pornography, I would ask why then is is child rape and pornography against the law, while name calling is recognized as just bad behavour with no criminal offense attached? If you call a person a nigger, kike, fag, spic, or butch, isn't that grounds for termination at many job's, and punished at organization's. Are you insinuating that I want child pornography and child rape illegal. Honestly, that is just an inane comment catchme. Frankly, someone who equates name calling with child rape and filming of it gives me the creeps. But a person who calls all police officers "things" and "pigs", and Canadian soldiers serving in Afghanistan as "murderers" who get off on killing the mentally handicapped is alright. Yikes. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
Canadian Blue Posted February 19, 2007 Report Posted February 19, 2007 I accused you of being a pedophile? Wow, you sure are completely forgetful or willfully ignorant towards what you post. I,m convincedCB must be a cop hater and all for kiddie porn. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
Catchme Posted February 19, 2007 Report Posted February 19, 2007 Well since I've already been accused of being a pedophile on here I might as well be responding to the other attack. When someone likens name calling to child rape and child pornography, what is needed is an infusion of values and morals, if not more. Well, as I responded earlier, sometimes words will have more power then an act of violence, and can encourage violence. Looking back at the comment, it was an unfortunate mistake, and shouldn't have been made by myself as I've been accused of being a pedophile, and apparently a cop hater. What values do I need to be enfused with, that calling people a derogatory and vile term is alright? As long as it's not directed at you right Catchme? And if someone thinks that name calling is equal to child rape and pornography, I would ask why then is child rape and pornography against the law, while name calling is recognized as just bad behavour with no criminal offense attached? If you call a person a nigger, kike, fag, spic, or butch, isn't that grounds for termination at many job's, and punished at organization's. Are you insinuating that I want child pornography and child rape illegal. Honestly, that is just an inane comment catchme. Frankly, someone who equates name calling with child rape and filming of it gives me the creeps. But a person who calls all police officers "things" and "pigs", and Canadian soldiers serving in Afghanistan as "murderers" who get off on killing the mentally handicapped is alright. Yikes. Again, you are minimizng autrocities committed against children by depicting the use of derogatory labelling as being worse, or equal to, the autrocities of child rape and child pornography. The names you used are racist/sexist terms, and as such hate language. They are not equal to simple name calling, or negatively labelling. Equating the rape of a child and the filming to simple name calling or negative labelling, is questionable at best, at moderation it condones and minimizes the autrocities committed against a child, and at worst it could signify other things like approval. Child rape and pornography is illegal, are you saying you do not want them to be, as you statement above appears to say so? No where did I say it was alright to negatively label the police, you are putting words where there none to try and deflect away from your words. Do you have any idea of the life long impact upon a child who has survived rape/pedeophilia? As you continually are minimalizing it, you either have no concept, or feel it is no big deal, as it is just like name calling, or you approve of it. Which is it? I would bet if you asked a police officer, whether they thought child rape and pornography, were equal to them being called a derogatory name, they would think you a little off. Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
Canadian Blue Posted February 19, 2007 Report Posted February 19, 2007 Well Catchme if you bothered to read my post you would see that I said it was a mistake to make that comment as I have been accused of being a pedophile. Well, as I responded earlier, sometimes words will have more power then an act of violence, and can encourage violence. Looking back at the comment, it was an unfortunate mistake, and shouldn't have been made by myself as I've been accused of being a pedophile, and apparently a cop hater. Alright, so how are those alright, but others aren't. The names you used are racist/sexist terms, and as such hate language. They are not equal to simple name calling, or negatively labelling. No, how is it hate language, it's simply negatively labelling? No where did I say it was alright to negatively label the police, you are putting words where there none to try and deflect away from your words. Odd, since you haven't condemned anything like that on the forum. But you only tend to condemn things which you deem offensive, as long as it's directed at other people it's fine. Child rape and pornography is illegal, are you saying you do not want them to be, as you statement above appears to say so? Were did I say that child rape should be legal? Do you have any idea of the life long impact upon a child who has survived rape/pedeophilia? As you continually are minimalizing it, you either have no concept, or feel it is no big deal, as it is just like name calling, or you approve of it. Which is it? No, I've been on in presentation's with sex detectives from Edmonton Police Service. So I am fully aware of the effect of it, probably more than you. The only difference is that I don't bash the people who are attempting to combat it and say that all of them are "things" and "pigs" due to the actions of an individual, which apparently is alright. I would bet if you asked a police officer, whether they thought child rape and pornography, were equal to them being called a derogatory name, they would think you a little off. No, but go up to them after dealing with hundreds of rapes and call them all "things" and "pigs". You know what Catchme, stop taking the moral highground because you have none. Plus you probably haven't really dealt with many police officers either, wereas I have countless hours of volunteer work with a police service in high school. Once again here is the answer that gave an accusation about me being a pedophile. Well, as I responded earlier, sometimes words will have more power then an act of violence, and can encourage violence. Looking back at the comment, it was an unfortunate mistake, and shouldn't have been made by myself as I've been accused of being a pedophile, and apparently a cop hater. Catchme get over yourself. Here is the post which makes me want to legalize pedophila. No kiddie porn isn't alright. But then again saying all cops are pigs and things is just as bad. By the way, stop with you're ignorant world view that bigots are reserved to the right wing, obviously you have spread hatred against police officers and soldiers, so you must be a bigot yourself to make such a sweeping generalization. So it was telling the poster to stop with his ignorant and vile view of everyone wearing a blue uniform. You were so angered by the comment about getting "panties tied up in a knot" as sexist, even though it really isn't, yet you feel free to accuse people of being pedophiles. You have no moral highground Catchme, and in all honesty if your going to make that kind of accusation on a public forum you should think before posting. Catchme, feel free to call me a pedophile or whatever you like simply because of a few words. Either way any kind of discussion with you will denigrate into a debate over semantics. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
Catchme Posted February 19, 2007 Report Posted February 19, 2007 Alright, so how are those alright, but others aren't. The names you used are racist/sexist terms, and as such hate language. They are not equal to simple name calling, or negatively labelling. No, how is it hate language, it's simply negatively labelling? No where did I say it was alright to negatively label the police, you are putting words where there none to try and deflect away from your words. Odd, since you haven't condemned anything like that on the forum. But you only tend to condemn things which you deem offensive, as long as it's directed at other people it's fine. Child rape and pornography is illegal, are you saying you do not want them to be, as you statement above appears to say so? Were did I say that child rape should be legal? Catchme, feel free to call me a pedophile or whatever you like simply because of a few words. Either way any kind of discussion with you will denigrate into a debate over semantics. The example words you gave were derogatory terms based upon, race, sex, religion. If you have no idea of how hateful and hate inciting they are, as opposed to simple derogatory terms based upon actions, then no one can help you. And yes, I am on record condemning the negative stereotyping of police, in fact you responded to it even, in the other thread, when had I called another poster on negatively broadbrushing all police. So stop with your "as long as it is directed at other people commentary". You are trying to depict something that is not present. Your moral high ground commentary is not worth consideration and commentary on. Please reread your comment of: Are you insinuating that I want child pornography and child rape illegal. Honestly, that is just an inane comment catchme. How is someone to take that? Which is why I asked for clarification of what you meant. Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
Canadian Blue Posted February 19, 2007 Report Posted February 19, 2007 The example words you gave were derogatory terms based upon, race, sex, religion. If you have no idea of how hateful and hate inciting they are, as opposed to simple derogatory terms based upon actions, then no one can help you. But I hear the word "nigger" being used all the time by people. As for derogatory term's based on action's, what action's, the derogatory term was used for an entire occupation. I think you need some help, with the reading part that is since everything need's to be clarified for you. And yes, I am on record condemning the negative stereotyping of police, in fact you responded to it even, in the other thread, when had I called another poster on negatively broadbrushing all police. So stop with your "as long as it is directed at other people commentary". You are trying to depict something that is not present. Your moral high ground commentary is not worth consideration and commentary on. No, because it's true, you try to take the moral highground by taking words out of context. How is someone to take that? Which is why I asked for clarification of what you meant. Well a competent person read's the other posts were I explicity said child pornography is wrong and immoral. Most wouldn't suggest or think that I thus support child pornography. But then again, it seem's that you like to block out I don't know 90% of what else is said on here. Since you didn't clue in, which is pretty obvious here what I said that would show I don't approve of child pornography. Put up a poll asking posters whether or not I am into kiddie porn.On another note, were did I say that I was into child pornography. This is ridiculous, you are accusing me of beating off to children getting raped, and saying people on here believe that I get off on children getting raped. Didn't we all condemn child pornography, your the one who has called all cops "things" and "pigs". Even though you apparently were in a bit of a trance when you made that post since you can't remember it. I did condemn the cop, I said their will always be a few bad apples in the police force, and said kiddie porn was morally reprehensible. The problem is that it's not criticism, or even a debate, it's all a smear. Then we people tell him that their are a few bad apples in every occupation, the response is that we support pedophiles. Strangely enough the "jock sniffing" comment has passed you by. I don't hold out much hope since you somehow interpeted that I support child pornography. Shoot. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
Catchme Posted February 19, 2007 Report Posted February 19, 2007 The example words you gave were derogatory terms based upon, race, sex, religion. If you have no idea of how hateful and hate inciting they are, as opposed to simple derogatory terms based upon actions, then no one can help you. But I hear the word "nigger" being used all the time by people. As for derogatory term's based on action's, what action's, the derogatory term was used for an entire occupation. I think you need some help, with the reading part that is since everything need's to be clarified for you. And yes, I am on record condemning the negative stereotyping of police, in fact you responded to it even, in the other thread, when had I called another poster on negatively broadbrushing all police. So stop with your "as long as it is directed at other people commentary". You are trying to depict something that is not present. Your moral high ground commentary is not worth consideration and commentary on. No, because it's true, you try to take the moral highground by taking words out of context. Then if you here the word "nigger" being used a lot, perhaps you are hanging out with the wrong type of people. Just because the people you know use it, does mean that it is correct to do so, unlesss of course it the Black community you hear using it. Just because you think/claim that I took it out of context, does not mean that I did. How is someone to take that? Which is why I asked for clarification of what you meant. Can blue this is the sentence you used : Are you insinuating that I want child pornography and child rape illegal. I asked for clarification, and never accused you of anything other than minimizing child rape to the equivalent of name calling. Well a competent person read's the other posts were I explicity said child pornography is wrong and immoral. Most wouldn't suggest or think that I thus support child pornography.But then again, it seem's that you like to block out I don't know 90% of what else is said on here. Since you didn't clue in, which is pretty obvious here what I said that would show I don't approve of child pornography Again, I was NOT discussing child pornography with you, I was discussing your trivialization of it. You are trying to shift the words to suit your purpose and nothing more. Fair enough I suppose, because how does one support one's belief that child rape is the moral equivalent of name calling. The problem is that it's not criticism, or even a debate, it's all a smear. Then we people tell him that their are a few bad apples in every occupation, the response is that we support pedophiles. You are bringing a dimension that was not in discussion between us. I never said you supported peodophiles. All that Id did was call you on making the moral equivalency of name calling = child rape. That is not a smear. Claiming victim hood in attempt to deflect away from you making a seriously flawed moral equivalency is nothing more than a deflection, or an inability to follow the course of the discussion. Strangely enough the "jock sniffing" comment has passed you by. I don't hold out much hope since you somehow interpeted that I support child pornography. never said you supported child pornography , you can say that as many times as you want and it still does not make it true. Also, I never participated in the jock sniffing thread, nor looked at it even, nor responded to any commentary upon it. George Bush and and jock sniffing in the 1 topic sentence was more than enough to detract me from participating in anything about it all. Now seriously, I am done with being lured from the topic of thread, and into, disengenious discussions where you make false accusations against me and I then feel forced to defend myself from your spurious accusations. So, I will refrain from falling into such things again and in future will overlook any of your partisan commentary, as it simply is not worth the effort. Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
Canadian Blue Posted February 19, 2007 Report Posted February 19, 2007 Catchme, do you have anything better to do then get into a debate over semantics? Now seriously, I am done with being lured from the topic of thread, and into, disengenious discussions where you make false accusations against me and I then feel forced to defend myself from your spurious accusations. So, I will refrain from falling into such things again and in future will overlook any of your partisan commentary, as it simply is not worth the effort. I think you have a lock on the partisan commentary. Nothing on here was partisan, it was simply me arguing with simple minded people who misinterpet everything. Then if you here the word "nigger" being used a lot, perhaps you are hanging out with the wrong type of people. Just because the people you know use it, does mean that it is correct to do so, unlesss of course it the Black community you hear using it. I think the fat white guy in Shaun of the Dead used it. Probably should burn that DVD before you question me about racism. Which I'm sure you will do, since you will probably interpet that as racism. Also, I never participated in the jock sniffing thread, nor looked at it even, nor responded to any commentary upon it. George Bush and and jock sniffing in the 1 topic sentence was more than enough to detract me from participating in anything about it all. But what about all your moral outrage? Again, I was NOT discussing child pornography with you, I was discussing your trivialization of it. You are trying to shift the words to suit your purpose and nothing more. Fair enough I suppose, because how does one support one's belief that child rape is the moral equivalent of name calling. Hold on so when you said the following: Child rape and pornography is illegal, are you saying you do not want them to be, as you statement above appears to say so? My answer is no, your just dense. What kind of an idiot comes up with the idea that I would want child pornography legal after I condemned it, called it immoral and wrong. As well I mentioned that derogatory term's such as "pigs" shouldn't be used on here. Somehow your moral outrage only seem's to apply to things like semantics. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
Canadian Blue Posted February 19, 2007 Report Posted February 19, 2007 As for victimhood, get a grip. All you do is go on a rant over one word, blow it out of proportion, and then go on the assault. Are you still mad about my post on the hypocrisy of the people who claim to love this country yet do nothing to really help this country. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
BayLee Posted February 19, 2007 Author Report Posted February 19, 2007 Gee C B ,do you get along with anyone? If you really are a soldier as you claim( we can be whoever we want on the internet ay) the Afghan civillians better hope you never end up over there Quote I Love My Dogs
Canadian Blue Posted February 19, 2007 Report Posted February 19, 2007 Baylee, your pretty dense, and it's lucky nobody has you watching their back since we'd have double the Canadian casualties. I get along with most people on here, but you seem to have a problem getting along with anyone Baylee as people have called you a nut, troll, idiot, and dense. But besides that Baylee, if you ever are in a situation where their is a natural disaster, you can always tell some of my friend's how their murderers and talk about your love of Canada. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
madmax Posted February 19, 2007 Report Posted February 19, 2007 I am dissapointed that this has denigrated into name calling. Calling a member here a pedophile, comes from the gutter, and shouldn't be defended. I expect better. Quote
Wilber Posted February 19, 2007 Report Posted February 19, 2007 I am dissapointed that this has denigrated into name calling.Calling a member here a pedophile, comes from the gutter, and shouldn't be defended. I expect better. Second. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
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