The Conservative agenda and the ethnic vote

[blueblood]

Now that Harper is on such good terms with the Muslims, when will he tell us when he is going to change the definition of marriage to "the union of one man and one to four women to the exclusion of all others"?

That's just ignorant and racist.

Call me ignorant and racist. When Harper and Khan are standing in front of a Muslim crowd attacking the Liberals of not supporting "family values", what do you imagine they were implying?

I'd assume they were implying that Liberals don't support family values

[mikedavid00]

Now that Harper is on such good terms with the Muslims, when will he tell us when he is going to change the definition of marriage to "the union of one man and one to four women to the exclusion of all others"?

That's just ignorant and racist.

Oh but Liberals are never racist.

[mikedavid00]

And Harper is throwing the doors of immigration open soon, wonder if he will make an order in council saying they are Canadian citizens immediately so they can vote for him?

Can you please cite this? That statement concerrns me greatly.

If Harper let's in more immigrants via our current system, I will no longer support him and his party.

[mikedavid00]

I'd assume they were implying that Liberals don't support family values

Bingo.

[Canadian Blue]

And Harper is throwing the doors of immigration open soon, wonder if he will make an order in council saying they are Canadian citizens immediately so they can vote for him?

Wow, you really do just make stuff up on every topic eh!

Now that Harper is on such good terms with the Muslims, when will he tell us when he is going to change the definition of marriage to "the union of one man and one to four women to the exclusion of all others"?

Yeah, it's not racist if you say it.

[Saturn]

Call me ignorant and racist. When Harper and Khan are standing in front of a Muslim crowd attacking the Liberals of not supporting "family values", what do you imagine they were implying?

I'd assume they were implying that Liberals don't support family values

Which would imply that the Conservatives support "family values"?

What's "family" in Islam?

[blueblood]

Call me ignorant and racist. When Harper and Khan are standing in front of a Muslim crowd attacking the Liberals of not supporting "family values", what do you imagine they were implying?

I'd assume they were implying that Liberals don't support family values

Which would imply that the Conservatives support "family values"?

What's "family" in Islam?

I'm assuming Muslim families in Canada have one man and woman with kids setup just like everyone else as polygamy is sort of illegal, I don't think I've heard of a muslim man in Canada with 5 wives or something like that, I've heard of some nut bars out in B.C. with that arrangement but i'm pretty sure they arent official legal marriages, just all of them "calling" him her husband.

Family values under the current Conservative gov't fall under your run of the mill social conservative agenda which maybe the crowd of muslims might have in common with other social conservatives in Canada with the exception they go to Mosques

[Saturn]

I'm assuming Muslim families in Canada have one man and woman with kids setup just like everyone else as polygamy is sort of illegal, I don't think I've heard of a muslim man in Canada with 5 wives or something like that, I've heard of some nut bars out in B.C. with that arrangement but i'm pretty sure they arent official legal marriages, just all of them "calling" him her husband.

No, there are no Muslim men with 5 wives, because having 5 wives is illegal under Islamic law. The maximum number of wives a Muslim man can have is 4. With Muslim men in Canada, instead of "These are my 3 wives" it's usually "This is my wife and this is her sister and this is their cousin".

[blueblood]

I'm assuming Muslim families in Canada have one man and woman with kids setup just like everyone else as polygamy is sort of illegal, I don't think I've heard of a muslim man in Canada with 5 wives or something like that, I've heard of some nut bars out in B.C. with that arrangement but i'm pretty sure they arent official legal marriages, just all of them "calling" him her husband.

No, there are no Muslim men with 5 wives, because having 5 wives is illegal under Islamic law. The maximum number of wives a Muslim man can have is 4. With Muslim men in Canada, instead of "These are my 3 wives" it's usually "This is my wife and this is her sister and this is their cousin".

Those are some pretty wild allegations, for someone who is all about political correctness and all that malarkey, I wouldn't even go that far.

[mikedavid00]

I'm assuming Muslim families in Canada have one man and woman with kids setup just like everyone else

That's true. The majoity of Muslims I have known have had a one wife.

I don't think I've heard of a muslim man in Canada with 5 wives or something like that,

The family I bought this house from had 2 wives and my best friend in childhood from Samolia had a second wife.

It goes on a lot in Canada, it's just not legal. It's also used to fraud welfare to increase number of children (10 kids were in this house, nobody working, everyone on benefits - got envelopes in mail after they moved out. I also got bedbugs from these people. They were Palistinians. I estimate the most likely collected over $5000 easily in welfare payments).

Family values under the current Conservative gov't fall under your run of the mill social conservative agenda which maybe the crowd of muslims might have in common with other social conservatives in Canada with the exception they go to Mosques

I completely disagree with that statement. I would say the Sikh's would be more conservative. When you include Islam, you are barking up a whole different tree.

More than one wife in Canada and amongst the educated in Islamic countries is considered 'low class'.

However, go down to Islamabad and you will see husbands with 8 wives that have purchased and are basically slaves and not allowed to leave the house. This is valid within Islam. Women are property to serve men.

Islam does have some good qualities after all!

[mikedavid00]

I'm assuming Muslim families in Canada have one man and woman with kids setup just like everyone else as polygamy is sort of illegal, I don't think I've heard of a muslim man in Canada with 5 wives or something like that, I've heard of some nut bars out in B.C. with that arrangement but i'm pretty sure they arent official legal marriages, just all of them "calling" him her husband.

With Muslim men in Canada, instead of "These are my 3 wives" it's usually "This is my wife and this is her sister and this is their cousin".

Those are some pretty wild allegations,

Through experience, I have to back Saturn on this.

However, these will be the lower class that are not here to work. The educated and working people do not have several wives in Canada for the most part as it's more taboo in their social ciricles.

[Canuck E Stan]

Through experience,

You know what's it's like to have four wives?

[mikedavid00]

Through experience,

You know what's it's like to have four wives?

No.. through observation of muslim households. The wife joke is also a classic joke at muslims parties. They are boring as hell, they have punch with no alchohol.

I wish I had 4 wives. One From Columbia, One from Brasil, One from Chile, and One from.. nah, another from Brasil.

[Canuck E Stan]

I wish I had 4 wives. One From Columbia, One from Brasil, One from Chile, and One from.. nah, another from Brasil.

To start with,I would suggest you work on trying to get your first date.

[madmax]

Now that Harper is on such good terms with the Muslims, when will he tell us when he is going to change the definition of marriage to "the union of one man and one to four women to the exclusion of all others"?

That's just ignorant and racist.

I almost thought it was a MikeDavid00 comment.

[Ricki Bobbi]

I almost thought it was a MikeDavid00 comment.

Yeah, we know MD00 has issues. Saturn's just hard to read, swinging between reasonable and wingnut.

But trying to defend it was a beautiful move on his part.

[mikedavid00]

I almost thought it was a MikeDavid00 comment.

Yeah, we know MD00 has issues.

Like what?

[Ricki Bobbi]

Yeah, we know MD00 has issues.

Like what?

Like this.

OMG THE SHOW IS WORSE THAN WHAT I IMMAGINED. IT'S A RACIST SHOW. IT'S A PRO-ISLAM, ANTI-CANADIAN.

ONE CHARACTER CLEARLY DEPICTS ARAR.

Using such big font is psychotic and strange.

The following is just weird and random. Define 'functioning'?

I find Alberta (and always have) to be the only 'functioning' part of Canada.

[mikedavid00]

Yeah, we know MD00 has issues.

Like what?

Like this.

OMG THE SHOW IS WORSE THAN WHAT I IMMAGINED. IT'S A RACIST SHOW. IT'S A PRO-ISLAM, ANTI-CANADIAN.

ONE CHARACTER CLEARLY DEPICTS ARAR.

Using such big font is psychotic and strange.

The following is just weird and random. Define 'functioning'?

I find Alberta (and always have) to be the only 'functioning' part of Canada.

So becuase I use big fonts I have screws lose when this forum is a means of entertainment to begin with? I find my statements to be credible about that show and stand by those statements. I don't think those staments deserve the comments that i have 'issues'.

I define Alberta as functioning because

-the gov't acts on behalf of the people,

-the people in Alberta have political power,

-the people in Alberta have culture,

-and Alberta takes in a very tiny fraction of immigrants which helps ensure white collar jobs for Albertans.

All those things combined results in Alberta functioning.

Ontario is a true and utter mess. So is Quebec, the east coast, and BC.

Ok here's how my day has been so far:

-Woke up. Turned on the radio and heard the 'immigration hour'. A caller calls in crying because she can't bring her sister over from the third world and is begging for help.

-So then I leave to go to Walmart. I almost get in 20 accidents because poeple here simply do not know how to drive. They are clueless new drivers. Not one understanding English or the rules of our roads.

-In WalMart I don't think I heard the language of English once. People with 5 children who stink around me everywhere. Odour of BO.

-Then I come back home and there are vans parked all over the street with Pakistani's in ethnic costumes all parked down the street almost blocking my driveway becuase they are having a 'function' of some sort at sommeone's house.

So yes, Alberta to me is functioning for more than reasons of politics and economy.