Higgly Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 Hands up everybody who has ever worked with a First Nations person, worked or lived on a reserve, or had to enforce the Indian Act. Don't be shy now... Quote "We have seen the enemy and he is us!". Pogo (Walt Kelly).
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 Hands up everybody who has ever worked with a First Nations person, worked or lived on a reserve, or had to enforce the Indian Act. Don't be shy now... Worked with a native? Yes. Worked in a casino? Yes. Lived close to a reserve? Yes. Worked in a business with a *lot* of native clients? Yes. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Figleaf Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 ... ther is currently no provincial ban on smoking anywher ein the country. First day with the new fingers, Rickiboy? Or is it the first day with the new brain? (We can only hope!) Quote
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 First day with the new fingers, Rickiboy? Or is it the first day with the new brain? (We can only hope!) Wow a typo is cause for such a witty personal attack? Power to you figs. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Figleaf Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 First day with the new fingers, Rickiboy? Or is it the first day with the new brain? (We can only hope!) Wow a typo is cause for such a witty personal attack? Power to you figs. You should learn how to do punctuation. And BTW, you wouldn't know wit if Oscar Wilde poured it down your throat. Quote
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 You should learn how to do punctuation. And BTW, you wouldn't know wit if Oscar Wilde poured it down your throat. Four straight personal attacks. Good work figs. How high are you hoping to take the number? Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Figleaf Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 You should learn how to do punctuation. And BTW, you wouldn't know wit if Oscar Wilde poured it down your throat. Four straight personal attacks. Good work figs. How high are you hoping to take the number? Personal attacks? No no, Precious, just giving you back what you've been dishing out. Take a big helping and then run crying to your Mummy. Quote
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 Personal attacks? No no, Precious, just giving you back what you've been dishing out.Take a big helping and then run crying to your Mummy. Six straight personal attacks? Only four more until I quit playing your little reindeer game. Is this my *punishment* for not respecting your authority? Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Figleaf Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 Personal attacks? No no, Precious, just giving you back what you've been dishing out.Take a big helping and then run crying to your Mummy. Six straight personal attacks? Only four more until I quit playing your little reindeer game. Is this my *punishment* for not respecting your authority? Personal attacks? No, I'm just sharing my opinion with you on what you've posted. Just like you do. Quote
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 Personal attacks? No, I'm just sharing my opinion with you on what you've posted. Just like you do. My posts always deal with the substance of what I am replying to. Yours clearly aren't bully. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Who's Doing What? Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 It is not that at all. Allowing on reserve businesses to allow smoking screws off reserve businesses that are not allowed to so. If native reserves want to have free trade with the communities that surround them then they must be prepared to accept regulations set by the community around them. Gaming is regulated by the province in Manitoba. I don't know how it is elsewhere. If the self-government means any type of law, why not a brothel? Would non-natives be allowed to work in said brothel? Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
jdobbin Posted November 6, 2006 Author Report Posted November 6, 2006 Would non-natives be allowed to work in said brothel? <heh> Probably. At any rate, the reason this debate is happening at all is because a Manitoba court stated that the government couldn't exempt reserves from the province-wide smoking law. Smoking is now against the law in public places including casinos and bars on reserves in Manitoba. It is now being appealed to a higher court. Quote
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 6, 2006 Report Posted November 6, 2006 At any rate, the reason this debate is happening at all is because a Manitoba court stated that the government couldn't exempt reserves from the province-wide smoking law. Smoking is now against the law in public places including casinos and bars on reserves in Manitoba.It is now being appealed to a higher court. Does the province have authority in this case? It appeared it was the Feds from the CBC story earlier in the thread. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
jdobbin Posted November 6, 2006 Author Report Posted November 6, 2006 http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/061103/...casinos_smoking Seems there is a little confusion over who has authority. Prentice says the province has authority to make no a no smoking law for reserves. Prentice is says that he doesn't have authority to give them an exemption even though Doer insists he does. Quote
Posit Posted November 6, 2006 Report Posted November 6, 2006 The Provincial Government has no authority over smoking on reserves. Only the federal government and the Band Government through the authority of the Indian Act can make laws and by-laws. However, a safety requirement can be extended to a reserve if the Band By-Laws or the Indian Act are silent on the issue. In this case the Native leaders have instructed each nation to write their own by-laws regarding smoking. All they need do is prescribe that smoking is allowed in any building at any time and the provincial safety requirments can no longer be used. This has already been tested in Ontario. Ontario lost. Quote
jdobbin Posted November 6, 2006 Author Report Posted November 6, 2006 This has already been tested in Ontario. Ontario lost. The court in Manitoba struck down the law that exempted reserves. So far the reserves are complying. The government of Manitoba is trying to get an exemption for the reserves but the feds are saying that provincial law applies. Quote
Posit Posted November 6, 2006 Report Posted November 6, 2006 Manitoba has no jurisdiction. The precedent has already been set by the SCC for the reasons I cited. Quote
Who's Doing What? Posted November 6, 2006 Report Posted November 6, 2006 Would non-natives be allowed to work in said brothel? <heh> Probably. At any rate, the reason this debate is happening at all is because a Manitoba court stated that the government couldn't exempt reserves from the province-wide smoking law. Smoking is now against the law in public places including casinos and bars on reserves in Manitoba. It is now being appealed to a higher court. You mean they're being treated the same as everyone else? Reality... shattering... cannot... comprehend... error... error... error... error Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
jdobbin Posted November 6, 2006 Author Report Posted November 6, 2006 Manitoba has no jurisdiction.The precedent has already been set by the SCC for the reasons I cited. Still, the reserves are complying. Quote
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