The Senate Strikes Again

[blueblood]

Anyone hear about our good old senate? 30 large for a weeklong vacation and a "light" itenerary. There's 30 large us taxpayers won't see again.

[cybercoma]

Good for them. They deserve every penny they can squander since we're too stupid to do anything about their useless asses.

[blueblood]

Good for them. They deserve every penny they can squander since we're too stupid to do anything about their useless asses.

any ideas?

[geoffrey]

Elect them, then vote for more accountable ones.

[jbg]

Good for them. They deserve every penny they can squander since we're too stupid to do anything about their useless asses.

I heard that they were an enterprising, hard-working, self-starting group.

[cybercoma]

Good for them. They deserve every penny they can squander since we're too stupid to do anything about their useless asses.

I heard that they were an enterprising, hard-working, self-starting group.

I heard they have the cure for cancer but are keeping it to themselves. Bastards!

[M.Dancer]

The whole upper chamber is un needed....not elected, not appointed.......toss it

[geoffrey]

The whole upper chamber is un needed....not elected, not appointed.......toss it

Let's toss the lower chamber too.

[blueblood]

does any one know how much the senate costs taxpayers instead of the obvious answer too much

[g_bambino]

does any one know how much the senate costs taxpayers instead of the obvious answer too much

2005-06 Estimates: $80,606,000

Other parts of Parliament:

Monarchy: $39,276,000

House of Commons: $383,221,000

Library of Parliament: $32,105,000

Office of the Ethics Commissioner: $4,675,000

[gerryhatrick]

Where is the link for this topic? How do we know you have details (most of which are missing) correct?

How do we know your shrill outrage is justified without some objective facts?

LINK!!!

[geoffrey]

Where is the link for this topic? How do we know you have details (most of which are missing) correct?

How do we know your shrill outrage is justified without some objective facts?

LINK!!!

I don't even see the outrage? 30k for a weekend for 100 or so Senators? $300 each? Pretty good if you ask me.

[gerryhatrick]

Where is the link for this topic? How do we know you have details (most of which are missing) correct?

How do we know your shrill outrage is justified without some objective facts?

LINK!!!

I don't even see the outrage? 30k for a weekend for 100 or so Senators? $300 each? Pretty good if you ask me.

You don't even see the outrage? I don't understand what you're trying to say.

I'm looking for a link. The poster is obviously upset and throwing out a couple of details. Is a news link too much to ask in a political forum?

[blueblood]

Where is the link for this topic? How do we know you have details (most of which are missing) correct?

How do we know your shrill outrage is justified without some objective facts?

LINK!!!

I don't even see the outrage? 30k for a weekend for 100 or so Senators? $300 each? Pretty good if you ask me.

You don't even see the outrage? I don't understand what you're trying to say.

I'm looking for a link. The poster is obviously upset and throwing out a couple of details. Is a news link too much to ask in a political forum?

Senate gets blasted over going to Dubai

see if that works, if not search around ctv.ca it's there

[blueblood]

Senate gets blasted...

Try this one, same page

[gerryhatrick]

Senate gets blasted...

Try this one, same page

Good grief, that's your complaint?

What would you say if they'd have made it to Afghanistan?

[geoffrey]

Where is the link for this topic? How do we know you have details (most of which are missing) correct?

How do we know your shrill outrage is justified without some objective facts?

LINK!!!

I don't even see the outrage? 30k for a weekend for 100 or so Senators? $300 each? Pretty good if you ask me.

You don't even see the outrage? I don't understand what you're trying to say.

I'm looking for a link. The poster is obviously upset and throwing out a couple of details. Is a news link too much to ask in a political forum?

I don't see his outrage, not yours. Like I said, that's a cheap business trip.

[Canuck E Stan]

I don't even see the outrage? 30k for a weekend for 100 or so Senators? $300 each? Pretty good if you ask me.

CTV

I suppose if the senators in waiting were 100 that would be cheap, but in reality these senators in waiting amounted to 4 plus 3 staffers.

The four senators and their three staffers wanted to reach the conflict-ridden country during last month's Operation Medusa, a major offensive against insurgents.

Instead, the senators ended up spending seven days in Dubai staying at a posh hotel that cost US$500 per night.

The total hotel bill came to more than $30,000. Plane fare, meals and other expenses were not included.

But they did work their butts off when there, so I feel much better about this impotant...sorry, important trip they took.

When asked what they did in Dubai, Sen. Tommy Banks said: "We worked on our report."

'Wrote' would be the wrong word "because we had written a substantial part of it before we got there," he said.

"We did an enormous amount of work there because we could spend all day on it," Banks added.

[blueblood]

Senate gets blasted...

Try this one, same page

Good grief, that's your complaint?

What would you say if they'd have made it to Afghanistan?

At least they're not dropping 500 bucks a night plus whatever other senate expenses there are and they're doing what they're supposed to be doing. I don't think you can accumulate expenses in Afghanistan. I've heard of guys getting canned pulling a stunt like that.

It might not seem like a large amount of money, it's the principle, I shouldn't have to pay for someone who is a part of a useless arm of government. The PM should get the presidential suite not joe nobody senator. 7 guys to hang out in a ritzy hotel doing something they could have done here, wasteful, I can't respect that. All the taxpayer should be paying for is a room at a best western and the equivalent cost of meals at applebees. I mean if they want to stay at a nice hotel it should come out of his senate pay which is ridiculous in itself. Not a business expense the people of Canada should be paying for, that money could be used for a lot more constructive things than that.

[gerryhatrick]

Senate gets blasted...

Try this one, same page

Good grief, that's your complaint?

What would you say if they'd have made it to Afghanistan?

At least they're not dropping 500 bucks a night plus whatever other senate expenses there are and they're doing what they're supposed to be doing. I don't think you can accumulate expenses in Afghanistan. I've heard of guys getting canned pulling a stunt like that.

So what.....if they'd had made it to Afghanistan you wouldn't have complained?

It might not seem like a large amount of money, it's the principle, I shouldn't have to pay for someone who is a part of a useless arm of government.

Lo and behold, here is the REAL crux of your b1tching. You're ideologically opposed to the Senate.

You didn't post a link to the details of this trip because you knew that your complaining wouldn't stand up to scrutiny. They went to show support for the troops and gather information for our leadership. They didn't make it due to circumstances beyond their control.

You got a problem with showing support for the troops?

[Canuck E Stan]

They went to show support for the troops and gather information for our leadership. They didn't make it due to circumstances beyond their control.

You got a problem with showing support for the troops?

The Military didn't want them there.

Canadian senators waited in an expensive Dubai hotel for seven days after a failed attempt to reach Afghanistan when the military had warned them not to attempt the trip in the first place, CTV News has learned.

Best support you could show would be right here in Canada. We got lots of soldiers in lots of bases in Canada that could use a pat on the back.

Pointless trip when told not to go by stupid senators.

The cost should come out of their pay.

[gerryhatrick]

They went to show support for the troops and gather information for our leadership. They didn't make it due to circumstances beyond their control.

You got a problem with showing support for the troops?

The Military didn't want them there.

According to who?

[Canuck E Stan]

According to who?

Take your choice,one is false:

A. An environmentalist who said they would fry in the heat because of global warming

or

B. Canada's Chief of Defence Staff, Gen. Rick Hiller

Answer:B

When Canada's Chief of Defence Staff, Gen. Rick Hiller, told the senators the security situation on the ground was too unstable for them to have meetings in Afghanistan, Meighen says they tried to make arrangements to come home.

[blueblood]

Senate gets blasted...

Try this one, same page

Good grief, that's your complaint?

What would you say if they'd have made it to Afghanistan?

At least they're not dropping 500 bucks a night plus whatever other senate expenses there are and they're doing what they're supposed to be doing. I don't think you can accumulate expenses in Afghanistan. I've heard of guys getting canned pulling a stunt like that.

So what.....if they'd had made it to Afghanistan you wouldn't have complained?

It might not seem like a large amount of money, it's the principle, I shouldn't have to pay for someone who is a part of a useless arm of government.

Lo and behold, here is the REAL crux of your b1tching. You're ideologically opposed to the Senate.

You didn't post a link to the details of this trip because you knew that your complaining wouldn't stand up to scrutiny. They went to show support for the troops and gather information for our leadership. They didn't make it due to circumstances beyond their control.

You got a problem with showing support for the troops?

yes i am ideologically opposed to the senate, i guess i like saving money. i didn't post the link cuz i plum forgot, believe me if you want to and i posted one when asked. if they'd have made it to Afghanistan and did their job that's alright and i don't have a problem supporting the troops.

I think they spent more than 30 large and spent around 100 large, thats pure speculation though, but i wouldn't be surprised.

Now i've got a question for you, bear with me as this might sound like im speaking in riddles but here i go how would you like it if you had teenagers and you let them borrow your visa card to go to an equipment dealer in the city to go get parts for machinery which in itself costs a bit, instead its closed (you have a rough idea how much it costs), now these teenagers decide to go crazy with it, they hit up a fancy pants clothing store, buy a new video game system, basically buy whatever it is people buy with little regard to you who has to pay for it. how would you like it?

I figure you'll weasel your way out of this but I believe this little scenario is what the senate has done and keeps doing to the taxpayer, and I believe it is wrong. when the government audits my farm for 80 plus thousand dollars, plus collects a nice fat sales tax from my crop inputs and machinery purchases and maintenance, plus income tax and THIS happens i think i'll exercise my right to be pissed off (btw I'm saying i'm paying a lot of tax dollars that's it). I know all you pay taxes as well and if your fine with that then I'm talking to a wall.

[gerryhatrick]

yes i am ideologically opposed to the senate,

End of story.