Montreal demonstration draws 15,000

[Leafless]

Although the title of this article is a bit deceiving as it is called " Peace rally draws 15,000 in Montreal".

How can it be called a peace rally when Sayed Nabil Abbas, a representative of the Islamic Shiite Council in Canada said: " We don't have any problem against Jews, our problem is with Zionists, said Abbas".

I guess Canadian Lebanese communities have nothing intelligent to say or contribute towards a peace effort concerning the Israel/Hezbollah Mid-East conflict and continue to fuel the fire.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentSe...epath=News/News

[cybercoma]

Was that the rally that Gilles Duceppe was marching in?

If so, the images I seen of him standing in a rally with people waving the Lebanese flags showing their support for Hezbollah made me sick.

Hezbollah must be disarmed and Lebanon needs to gain control of their state. I'd like to hear less crying about Israel trying to protect herself and more crying about a rogue state (hezbollah) being allowed to operate within a state.

[jdobbin]

Was that the rally that Gilles Duceppe was marching in?

If so, the images I seen of him standing in a rally with people waving the Lebanese flags showing their support for Hezbollah made me sick.

Hezbollah must be disarmed and Lebanon needs to gain control of their state. I'd like to hear less crying about Israel trying to protect herself and more crying about a rogue state (hezbollah) being allowed to operate within a state.

The CBC and CTV showed him in the middle of it. First I've seen of him since he came back to Canada from his home in France.

[cybercoma]

That's BS. Duceppe is a dangerous individual if he supports a group like Hezbollah whom are bent on disrupting freedom and trying to spread islamo-fascism around the world. They want to eradicate the jews, they want to decimate Israel...Nazi parrallels are played out, but seriously...Hezbollah and The Arab League are a few gas chambers and ovens short of Nazi Germany.

And here's Gilles Duceppe, condemning Israel for protecting itself.

[jdobbin]

That's BS. Duceppe is a dangerous individual if he supports a group like Hezbollah whom are bent on disrupting freedom and trying to spread islamo-fascism around the world. They want to eradicate the jews, they want to decimate Israel...Nazi parrallels are played out, but seriously...Hezbollah and The Arab League are a few gas chambers and ovens short of Nazi Germany.

And here's Gilles Duceppe, condemning Israel for protecting itself.

Perhaps the Conservatives will arrest him.

[cybercoma]

He should be sent to Guantanamo Bay.

[Leafless]

That's BS. Duceppe is a dangerous individual if he supports a group like Hezbollah whom are bent on disrupting freedom and trying to spread islamo-fascism around the world. They want to eradicate the jews, they want to decimate Israel...Nazi parrallels are played out, but seriously...Hezbollah and The Arab League are a few gas chambers and ovens short of Nazi Germany.

And here's Gilles Duceppe, condemning Israel for protecting itself.

Perhaps the Conservatives will arrest him.

Where are Canada's anti-hate laws and why are they not being applied as the proof is on national televison.

If no charges are laid against the organizers of this demonstration then it can be said Quebec is encouraging a potential Arab/Jew upheaval on Canadian soil.

[cybercoma]

It sickens me that federal politicians are supporting a rally that condemns Israel for defending itself and its people.

[geoffrey]

Where are Canada's anti-hate laws and why are they not being applied as the proof is on national televison.

If no charges are laid against the organizers of this demonstration then it can be said Quebec is encouraging a potential Arab/Jew upheaval on Canadian soil.

Where is there encouragement or incitement of violence towards a racial group?

I don't support Hezbollah or any terrorists, and I'm not fond of either side in the current conflict... but how quick you are to trash a peaceful protest because you don't agree with their viewpoint.

From the article:

"They called for an immediate ceasefire that would end hostilities."

“They should all get together and try to find a way to live in peace.”

Then we have your Jew's hating Jews I'm sure in your mind:

“We are totally in opposition in every step of the way to what the state of Israel is doing,” said Rabbi Israel David Weiss, a New Yorker with Jews United Against Zionism.

Sure sounds like inciting violence. Grow up and realise that others have valid viewpoints other than your own. You might even learn something. Where the hell is the potential Arab upheavel?

[nussy]

Where are Canada's anti-hate laws and why are they not being applied as the proof is on national televison.

If no charges are laid against the organizers of this demonstration then it can be said Quebec is encouraging a potential Arab/Jew upheaval on Canadian soil.

Where is there encouragement or incitement of violence towards a racial group?

I don't support Hezbollah or any terrorists, and I'm not fond of either side in the current conflict... but how quick you are to trash a peaceful protest because you don't agree with their viewpoint.

From the article:

"They called for an immediate ceasefire that would end hostilities."

“They should all get together and try to find a way to live in peace.”

Then we have your Jew's hating Jews I'm sure in your mind:

“We are totally in opposition in every step of the way to what the state of Israel is doing,” said Rabbi Israel David Weiss, a New Yorker with Jews United Against Zionism.

Sure sounds like inciting violence. Grow up and realise that others have valid viewpoints other than your own. You might even learn something. Where the hell is the potential Arab upheavel?

The Israeli's cannot afford to lose any war. They have enemies surrounding them that want to destroy their very existence.

The Terrorists can lose many wars and live to fight again as soon as their sponsor states replenish their arsenal.

[Bakunin]

Lol, its funny how fast someone that doesn't beleive that yet another violent war will resolve anything in middle east or just disagree with israel become sudently "anti-israelians". Does it means if someone support Israel he is automatically anti-arab ?

[Argus]

Then we have your Jew's hating Jews I'm sure in your mind:

“We are totally in opposition in every step of the way to what the state of Israel is doing,” said Rabbi Israel David Weiss, a New Yorker with Jews United Against Zionism.

To be fair, this guy is a screwball, and his group a collection of religious wacko fruitloops who want Israel destroyed. Don't make it sound like they're just ordinary Jews who are siding with the Lebanese in this because of Israel's unfairness.

Sure sounds like inciting violence. Grow up and realise that others have valid viewpoints other than your own. You might even learn something. Where the hell is the potential Arab upheavel?

“Israel learned from Hitler and the student has surpassed the master,” read one sign.

I'm aware that others have differant viewpoints than mine. But I'm willing to bet most of the people at that demonstration support Hezbollah. Which means they support terrorism.

[yam]

This is very complicated stuff,

In laymans terms:

There is a great difference between the Zionists and the Jews. . . politically. The zionists demand a pure nation state of israel and will fight to the death for it. Whereas the Jews just want to get this sorted out once and for all and live in peace. The jews have been expelled and pushed around from pillar to post from the beginning of time. So they wish to share the land and so fourth despite who owns the sacred rights as it were. Many even support palestine and want to help them. However, these ones are stuck in Israel alongside the broader radical and extremely right wing zionists. The Jewish lobbyists in the US are the right leaning zionists/representatives. Hence . . .the economic interests that US and Israel share through advancing right wing agendas. In fact any political activity involving Israel is always backed up/supported by the US.

Hezbollah

The invasion into lebanon by Israel was to squash Hezbollah since it enjoyed much support. If not support, then it was accepted and tolerated. It was not terrorist. It stepped in when the gov failed in supplying its people with necessary infrastructure. It also helped to try and release people that were wrongly accused of being a terrorist. Anybody that did not whole heartedly support Israeli policies etc. Now its trying to protect the lebanese from being blown to smitherines. Israel is trying to do this since we have seen footage showing their bombing of bridges and borders to stop the lebanese people from escaping. Also we have coverage of it breaking its promise of not using air strikes etc

[fellowtraveller]

It is not that complicated, yam, and this is wholesale crap:

" Now its(Hizbollah) trying to protect the lebanese from being blown to smitherines."

No, they are using innocent civilians as human shields while they advance Iranian/Syrian foreign policy, which consists of destroying Israel. The actions of Hizbollah are crimes against humanity.

Hizbollah is a terrorist organization, and deserves neither sympathy or support.

[geoffrey]

Yam,

You lack a grasp of the situation. The Lebanese people have been trying to get rid of Hezbollah for some time now. A recent proposal that looks promising is having the Lebanese Army, with support of the UN, flush out/kill all the Hezbollah in their country.

Hezbollah doesn't protect Lebanon, they serve their own interests which is the destruction of Israel.

I have a lot of sympathy for the average Lebanese guy that just wants to get on with his life, I don't think Israel's response is measured or even strategically sound. But I do respect Israel's right to destroy Hezbollah, and I'm sure the Lebanese people would be very happy if Israel could do it in a way that doesn't harm their infrastructure and way of life.

Hezbollah needs to go, each terrorist from their organization needs to be killed or jailed forever. I don't know how a rational person could debate that fact. Israel's response is a whole 'nother can of worms, seperate topic.

[Argus]

This is very complicated stuff,

In laymans terms:

There is a great difference between the Zionists and the Jews. . . politically. The zionists demand a pure nation state of israel and will fight to the death for it.

You have any source for that other than Nazi web sites? So far as I've been able to discover the Zionist movement is: A movement founded by the Viennese Jewish journalist Theodor Herzl, who argued in his 1896 book Der Judenstaat (The Jewish State) that the best way of avoiding anti-Semitism in Europe was to create an independent Jewish state in Palestine.

Hezbollah

The invasion into lebanon by Israel was to squash Hezbollah since it enjoyed much support. If not support, then it was accepted and tolerated. It was not terrorist.

A group which sends rockets into civilian areas on purpose, to kill civilians, a group which sends terrorists into civilian areas to commit brutal murders, a group which calls for the wholesale death of Jews, would seem to me to qualify as a terrorist group.

It stepped in when the gov failed in supplying its people with necessary infrastructure.

It gets money from Iran, most of which goes to armaments. It has been known to build weapons bunkers and then build schools and hospitals on top of them. It has been known to move into civilian areas to fire rockets into Israel and prevent the people from leaving, at gunpoint if necessary, in order to hide behind.

Now its trying to protect the lebanese from being blown to smitherines.

By attacking Israel, which provoked the Israeli counter-attacks in the first place, and by firing rockets into Israeli cities to ensure the Israelis keep on attacking. Excellent idea! Maybe we should start lobbing mortars into the US to "protect ourselves" from being blown to smithereens too.