Shakeyhands Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 Why does Mr Harper insist that his MP's not say anything to the press on this matter? Whats the big deal? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Rue Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 Why does Mr Harper insist that his MP's not say anything to the press on this matter? Whats the big deal? He is afraid of what they might tell in regards to why they call it Royal Canadian MOUNTED Police. Quote
lost&outofcontrol Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 Why does Mr Harper insist that his MP's not say anything to the press on this matter? Whats the big deal? He is afraid of what they might tell in regards to why they call it Royal Canadian MOUNTED Police. baazing! Quote
Shakeyhands Posted May 26, 2006 Author Report Posted May 26, 2006 actually its a quite serious question. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
scribblet Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 he's practicing 'tough love', a firm hand on the tiller while keeping control. So far its working. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
BHS Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 he's practicing 'tough love', a firm hand on the tiller while keeping control. So far its working. While I sympathize with Harper wanting to stick it to the media, I think this whole strategy is going to backfire on him in the long run. He'd be better off playing by the journos' rules, and getting humourous and contemptuous little digs in at their expense as opportunities present themselves. On the other hand, this is an interesting test case for conservative leaders throughout the West. If Harper can get away with ignoring the wants and needs of the news media he might start a trend. He may even provoke a paradigm shift in government / media relations. Quote "And, representing the Slightly Silly Party, Mr. Kevin Phillips Bong." * * * "Er..no. Harper was elected because the people were sick of the other guys and wanted a change. Don't confuse electoral success (which came be attributed to a wide variety of factors) with broad support. That's the surest way to wind up on the sidelines." - Black Dog
scribblet Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 While I sympathize with Harper wanting to stick it to the media, I think this whole strategy is going to backfire on him in the long run. He'd be better off playing by the journos' rules, and getting humourous and contemptuous little digs in at their expense as opportunities present themselves.On the other hand, this is an interesting test case for conservative leaders throughout the West. If Harper can get away with ignoring the wants and needs of the news media he might start a trend. He may even provoke a paradigm shift in government / media relations. A paradigm shift in the Liberal media....LOL more like a tectonic plate shift to move them Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Shakeyhands Posted May 26, 2006 Author Report Posted May 26, 2006 my concern is how this is affecting governing, we elected these people to represent us, should we not hear what they want to say? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Guest Warwick Green Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 Why does Mr Harper insist that his MP's not say anything to the press on this matter? Whats the big deal? Remember the totally unlamented Larry Spencer whom Harper fired after a homophobic rant? Harper doesn't want another whacko sounding off on gays. Quote
crazymf Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 Or another whacking off gays sounding off.... Quote The trouble with the legal profession is that 98% of its members give the rest a bad name. Don't be humble - you're not that great. Golda Meir
Hicksey Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 Why does Mr Harper insist that his MP's not say anything to the press on this matter? Whats the big deal? Remember the totally unlamented Larry Spencer whom Harper fired after a homophobic rant? Harper doesn't want another whacko sounding off on gays. If MPs actually voted how their constituents wanted them to, a man's personal opinion wouldn't matter. Quote "If in passing, you never encounter anything that offends you, you are not living in a free society." - Rt. Hon. Kim Campbell - “In many respects, the government needs fewer rules, but rules that are consistently applied.” - Sheila Fraser, Former Auditor General.
Argus Posted May 27, 2006 Report Posted May 27, 2006 Why does Mr Harper insist that his MP's not say anything to the press on this matter? Whats the big deal? The PMO discovered that certain journalists were contacting most Conservative MPs and well-known party members (especially the more socially conservative) and trying to get them to make statements about the gay mounties. Clearly, they want to get something that is either nasty or can be played as nasty. They'll call a hundred people, two hundred people, looking for one MP or party member or staffer who'll use the word "faggot" and then splash it over every front page in the country as evidence of how intollerent the Tories are. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Shakeyhands Posted May 27, 2006 Author Report Posted May 27, 2006 Why does Mr Harper insist that his MP's not say anything to the press on this matter? Whats the big deal? The PMO discovered that certain journalists were contacting most Conservative MPs and well-known party members (especially the more socially conservative) and trying to get them to make statements about the gay mounties. Clearly, they want to get something that is either nasty or can be played as nasty. They'll call a hundred people, two hundred people, looking for one MP or party member or staffer who'll use the word "faggot" and then splash it over every front page in the country as evidence of how intollerent the Tories are. Agreed, so do we not want these MP's exposed? No matter there political strip? Or is it ok to hold the views secretly? If you believe in something, hell, shout it from the rooftops. I just don't see this as being a good thing in any way. Or am I off base here? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Wilber Posted May 27, 2006 Report Posted May 27, 2006 We have a case of trench warfare between the media and the government. Truth and objectivity will be the victim. The media will concentrate on making Harper look bad because they are pissed off at him and he will just get even more defensive as a result. As with most of these situations, its origins will get fuzzier and fuzzier as time goes by. Pity. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Argus Posted May 27, 2006 Report Posted May 27, 2006 The PMO discovered that certain journalists were contacting most Conservative MPs and well-known party members (especially the more socially conservative) and trying to get them to make statements about the gay mounties. Clearly, they want to get something that is either nasty or can be played as nasty. They'll call a hundred people, two hundred people, looking for one MP or party member or staffer who'll use the word "faggot" and then splash it over every front page in the country as evidence of how intollerent the Tories are. Agreed, so do we not want these MP's exposed? No matter there political strip? Or is it ok to hold the views secretly? If you believe in something, hell, shout it from the rooftops. I just don't see this as being a good thing in any way. Or am I off base here? The media don't want anti-gay MPs exposed. They want anti-gay TORY MPs exposed. There are plenty of Liberals who are disgusted with homosexuality, but even while they occasionally find their names in the media their existance has never been used to suggest that Liberals in general are homophobic, nor has the Liberal party itself ever taken action against them. No, this is a witch hunt to find TORIES who'll make anti-gay comments so the media can tar the whole party. BTW, there are quite probably more Canadians who are, to one degree or another, repulsed at the idea of male mounties getting "married" than not. And I'm quite sure the organization itself finds the whole thing humiliating and would fire both in a second (probably out a cannon) if they could get away with it. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
KrustyKidd Posted May 27, 2006 Report Posted May 27, 2006 I don't have anything against anybody. I just want to know who is looking at my ass. Quote We're Paratroopers Lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded - CPT Richard Winters
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