Deluge Posted February 28 Author Report Posted February 28 1 minute ago, impartialobserver said: Well, we know that he has a documented history of firing his employees at random. This simply documents that he fired them. As to him walking in and doing it at random.. I was not there but my very Conservative neighbor is a pretty good source. Also, I have met Musk and well.. socializing, social norms, and such are not his strong suit. I am not saying, "every situation".. I am pointing out one. In this case, the one instance is the national park service. https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/21/tesla_unlawful_layoffs_lawsuit/ Second, we know that 1,000 have been fired (estimated). We also know that he is most likely the reason for this. If you scour the internet.. you will not find a detailed method for this or rationale. There might be one and we just have not seen it yet. WHERE does it document random firings? Now that I think about it, I can see 1,000 forest service workers getting sacked. They're probably all nature heads; some of which might have helped, or would have helped, facilitate the f*ck ups during the California fires. Quote
impartialobserver Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 1 minute ago, Deluge said: WHERE does it document random firings? Now that I think about it, I can see 1,000 forest service workers getting sacked. They're probably all nature heads; some of which might have helped, or would have helped, facilitate the f*ck ups during the California fires. When he fired the folks at the Reno Gigafactory.. he walked in and pointed at folks. "Tesla has failed to give Plaintiffs and the Class Members any advance written notice of their terminations. Instead, Tesla has simply notified the employees that their terminations would be effective immediately." this shows that there was no rationale given. One day, they were employed and the next day not. When you do something with no rationale.. most would say it is random. Quote
Deluge Posted February 28 Author Report Posted February 28 1 minute ago, impartialobserver said: When he fired the folks at the Reno Gigafactory.. he walked in and pointed at folks. "Tesla has failed to give Plaintiffs and the Class Members any advance written notice of their terminations. Instead, Tesla has simply notified the employees that their terminations would be effective immediately." this shows that there was no rationale given. One day, they were employed and the next day not. When you do something with no rationale.. most would say it is random. How do we know those people weren't predetermined? Besides, Nevada is an at-will state. He could fire anyone he wants, with or without cause. Quote
impartialobserver Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 4 minutes ago, Deluge said: How do we know those people weren't predetermined? Besides, Nevada is an at-will state. He could fire anyone he wants, with or without cause. As of yet, there is no documentation that they were predetermined. So it would appear random. Yes, NV is an at-will state but that is not relevant to this discussion. The point is that you do not fire your staff at random. If you are running a business.. you trim the budget in a very discerning fashion. If you owned a restaurant.. would you fire all of the cooks and chefs? It does not matter if they are performing well or not. To operate a restaurant.. you have to have someone cook the food. Surely you can see that. Quote
Deluge Posted February 28 Author Report Posted February 28 Just now, impartialobserver said: 1. As of yet, there is no documentation that they were predetermined. So it would appear random. 2. Yes, NV is an at-will state but that is not relevant to this discussion. The point is that you do not fire your staff at random. If you are running a business.. you trim the budget in a very discerning fashion. If you owned a restaurant.. would you fire all of the cooks and chefs? It does not matter if they are performing well or not. To operate a restaurant.. you have to have someone cook the food. Surely you can see that. 1. You don't know that for sure, yet you decided to paint that picture anyways. I get that you don't see a problem with this, but it doesn't matter; you still look like a jackass. 2. Yes it is relevant. It means he can walk into one of his facilities and start handing out pink slips. You don't know WHY he would do something like that unless you are part of his team. Of course, a marxist like you doesn't consider stuff like that because you are too busy being offended. Look, it's obvious that you don't know what in the f*ck is going on, so why not just stfu at this point? Get all the info first, and then start your protest. That is my advice to all snowflakes everywhere. Quote
impartialobserver Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 1 minute ago, Deluge said: 1. You don't know that for sure, yet you decided to paint that picture anyways. I get that you don't see a problem with this, but it doesn't matter; you still look like a jackass. 2. Yes it is relevant. It means he can walk into one of his facilities and start handing out pink slips. You don't know WHY he would do something like that unless you are part of his team. Of course, a marxist like you doesn't consider stuff like that because you are too busy being offended. Look, it's obvious that you don't know what in the f*ck is going on, so why not just stfu at this point? Get all the info first, and then start your protest. That is my advice to all snowflakes everywhere. Actually I have far better info than you. Again, in the absence of a rationale.. his actions will appear random. That is simple human nature. Your approval of that reality is not necessary. Not offended. Just can see the forest for the trees. I love it how types like you take offense when I say something like the sky is blue. Your response is always, "you little snowflake.. what do you have against the color blue". It is truly amusing. as always, you are not civil... "stfu"... does not take much to lose your cool. Quote
Deluge Posted February 28 Author Report Posted February 28 3 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: Actually I have far better info than you. Again, in the absence of a rationale.. his actions will appear random. That is simple human nature. Your approval of that reality is not necessary. Not offended. Just can see the forest for the trees. I love it how types like you take offense when I say something like the sky is blue. Your response is always, "you little snowflake.. what do you have against the color blue". It is truly amusing. as always, you are not civil... "stfu"... does not take much to lose your cool. There is no reality in your opinion. The guy didn't make his billions by making really stupid and irrational decisions. With a guy like Musk, there is actual rhyme to his reason - there has to be - his bank account shows it. No, you see trees and that's it - poor, defenseless woodland trees that need your protection from big bad logging companies. The sky IS blue, and I'm glad that we've actually found common ground! Dude, civility is earned. I'll be civil when you are honest. Deal? Quote
impartialobserver Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 11 minutes ago, Deluge said: There is no reality in your opinion. The guy didn't make his billions by making really stupid and irrational decisions. With a guy like Musk, there is actual rhyme to his reason - there has to be - his bank account shows it. No, you see trees and that's it - poor, defenseless woodland trees that need your protection from big bad logging companies. The sky IS blue, and I'm glad that we've actually found common ground! Dude, civility is earned. I'll be civil when you are honest. Deal? Dirty little secret about Tesla... it is highly subsidized. His net worth is not truly a reflection of his business sense. No. I do not mind there being less federal government employment. Simply of the opinion that you should do so in a very rational and laid out manner. One reason is that this prevents lawsuits. If you fire them and you have exact criteria.. then that is the end of the story. If you do so at random and there is legality behind the employee.. you open yourself up for lawsuits. I know that you can't be this objective. Again, back to your tired game. You are only civil to those who align with you. Its fine. At least we do not have emotional, overreactive, affirmation seeking types like you in my office. Quote
Deluge Posted March 1 Author Report Posted March 1 3 hours ago, impartialobserver said: 1. Dirty little secret about Tesla... it is highly subsidized. His net worth is not truly a reflection of his business sense. 2. No. I do not mind there being less federal government employment. Simply of the opinion that you should do so in a very rational and laid out manner. One reason is that this prevents lawsuits. If you fire them and you have exact criteria.. then that is the end of the story. If you do so at random and there is legality behind the employee.. you open yourself up for lawsuits. I know that you can't be this objective. 3. Again, back to your tired game. You are only civil to those who align with you. Its fine. At least we do not have emotional, overreactive, affirmation seeking types like you in my office. 1. It doesn't matter. Elon Musk is a major player in the business world and he's doing this country a favor. It's a beautiful sight. 2. Actually it's you who can't see that objective. You charge out the gates with "Musk is randomly firing people!! *CRY*", and it was up to me to slow your ass down and help you understand how stupid you were looking. Look, friend, whenever you feel like your TDS is about to take over, come to me and I'll help you out of your mind virus. 3. I see, so in your office you let calmer heads prevail, which is why as US citizens, you would have voted for this mental giant: Quote
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