BubberMiley Posted March 23, 2006 Report Posted March 23, 2006 Crunching the numbers on a recent U.S. Pew poll, 57 percent of the people who describe themselves as "secular" say that torture is either never or rarely justified. Only 49 percent of White protestants and only 42 percent of Catholics are similarly torture-averse. In other words, if you are an American Christian, you are more likely to support torture than if you are an atheist or agnostic." Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
geoffrey Posted March 23, 2006 Report Posted March 23, 2006 Correlation does not equal caustiation. The Christian faith does not encourage torture. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
JerrySeinfeld Posted March 23, 2006 Report Posted March 23, 2006 Crunching the numbers on a recent U.S. Pew poll, 57 percent of the people who describe themselves as "secular" say that torture is either never or rarely justified. Only 49 percent of White protestants and only 42 percent of Catholics are similarly torture-averse. In other words, if you are an American Christian, you are more likely to support torture than if you are an atheist or agnostic." Hey, if you're securlar you're also more likely to have penetrative gay anal sex with a shephard in a tent. What's yous point? Quote
BubberMiley Posted March 24, 2006 Author Report Posted March 24, 2006 Hey, if you're securlar you're also more likely to have penetrative gay anal sex with a shephard in a tent. What's yous point? Can you provide sources for your stats? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
JerrySeinfeld Posted March 24, 2006 Report Posted March 24, 2006 Hey, if you're securlar you're also more likely to have penetrative gay anal sex with a shephard in a tent. What's yous point? Can you provide sources for your stats? Yep - I live in downtown Vancouver. Come here and walk down the street. There's your stats. Quote
Riverwind Posted March 24, 2006 Report Posted March 24, 2006 The Christian faith does not encourage torture.No but such stats show many Christians have misplaced ideas about ethics. I suspect these stats can be explained because many Christians in the US are obsessed with the abortion and are willing to believe anything a politician says as long as he is opposed to abortion. In other words, if George W says torture is necessary then torture must be ok since George W can't be wrong because he is against abortion. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
BubberMiley Posted March 24, 2006 Author Report Posted March 24, 2006 Yep - I live in downtown Vancouver. Come here and walk down the street. There's your stats. What goes on in the streets of Vancouver? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
geoffrey Posted March 24, 2006 Report Posted March 24, 2006 The Christian faith does not encourage torture.No but such stats show many Christians have misplaced ideas about ethics. I suspect these stats can be explained because many Christians in the US are obsessed with the abortion and are willing to believe anything a politician says as long as he is opposed to abortion. In other words, if George W says torture is necessary then torture must be ok since George W can't be wrong because he is against abortion. What ethics have been misplaced? Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
BubberMiley Posted March 24, 2006 Author Report Posted March 24, 2006 I suspect these stats can be explained because many Christians in the US are obsessed with the abortion and are willing to believe anything a politician says as long as he is opposed to abortion. I suspect these stats can be explained because many on the Christian right only identify themselves as Christian because they think it facilitates being judgemental of others. In terms of their actual beliefs, many of them aren't really Christian at all. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
geoffrey Posted March 24, 2006 Report Posted March 24, 2006 I suspect these stats can be explained because many Christians in the US are obsessed with the abortion and are willing to believe anything a politician says as long as he is opposed to abortion. I suspect these stats can be explained because many on the Christian right only identify themselves as Christian because they think it facilitates being judgemental of others. In terms of their actual beliefs, many of them aren't really Christian at all. That is a completely false statement. In fact, the left is far more judgemental and sterotypical towards Christians. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
BubberMiley Posted March 24, 2006 Author Report Posted March 24, 2006 That is a completely false statement. In fact, the left is far more judgemental and sterotypical towards Christians. In the context, it's kind irrelevant what the left thinks about Christians. Why do you say it's a false statement? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Riverwind Posted March 24, 2006 Report Posted March 24, 2006 What ethics have been misplaced?Choosing to support unethical policies because the politician opposes abortion is misplacing your ethics. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
geoffrey Posted March 24, 2006 Report Posted March 24, 2006 What ethics have been misplaced?Choosing to support unethical policies because the politician opposes abortion is misplacing your ethics. Whew, that sentence took a few readings to understand. If that is someone's only reason for supporting GWB, then yes I agree. Remember though, there are arguments for both sides of the ethical issues about the war, among other policies. The utilitarian argument could be taken to support it in the long run. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
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